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80 series front diff

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80 series front diff

Post by dan b »

Hi all i'm trying to find a reasonably priced front diff center for my 80 series. It is a 90 mod manual diesel. i'm 99% sure its 4.1:1 ratio.
I'm located 1.5 hours s/e of melbourne. Can anyone help me out???
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by RED60 »

I think Hilux diffs fit, but would have to check with an expert... don't know if ratios are the same either.....
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by 6.5 rangie »

hilux is low pinion, 80 is high pinion
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by hiluxmad »

where abouts are you located?
try warragul wreckers thay had a couple of 80s last time i was there.
prices werent too bad.
pak4x4 on purton rd pakenham would have one i reckon.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by Mr DJ »

100 series, 78/79 series also have same 8" high pinion front diffs that will fit, but check ratios are same as what you need.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by crankycruiser »

Hilux diff WONT fit.. (dont believe the shit that they have a lux diff.. cos they dont)

105 series are high pinion but they are all 4.3 ratio

all 80's came from factory with 4.1 ratio.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by 84sloth »

Hzj75 also have same high pinion front mate.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by TheBigBoy »

84sloth wrote:Hzj75 also have same high pinion front mate.
75 series diff centres are different. I have an 80 series and also have 2 75 series diff centres for sale right now. They are not the same
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by hulsty »

How are they different? hi pinion 75 series centres should be exactly the same.
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Re: 80 series front diff

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Didn't think 75's had HP front from factory, thought they were same as rear like 60's :?
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by RUFF »

This really should be a wanted add in the classifieds. But it seams to be now containing some tech so I will leave it here.

The FZJ75 front centre will fit but the ratio is different. An 80 series runs a 4.10:1 centre where as the 75 runs a 4.11:1 centre. The difference is very minimal but I have heard reports of transfer case wind up with the constant 4wd's on road while doing long distance with matching sized tyres and pressures on front and back.
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

RUFF wrote:This really should be a wanted add in the classifieds. But it seams to be now containing some tech so I will leave it here.

The FZJ75 front centre will fit but the ratio is different. An 80 series runs a 4.10:1 centre where as the 75 runs a 4.11:1 centre. The difference is very minimal but I have heard reports of transfer case wind up with the constant 4wd's on road while doing long distance with matching sized tyres and pressures on front and back.
I thought it was only early 75's (lp/9.5" front models) that were 4.11? With the hp front came the 4.1 ratios front+rear...could well be wrong though.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by MICK77 »

Try these guys.

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They should be able to help you. They have plenty of cruiser bits as well as Patrol.

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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by dan b »

Thanks for the info guys, I was able to find 1 at the wreckers, installed it today, all seems good.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by tom_286 »

Mr DJ wrote:Didn't think 75's had HP front from factory, thought they were same as rear like 60's :?
hj75 had the same low pinion diff front and rear (same as 60s), hzj75 got the smaller high pinion diff in the front (along with bigger CV joints) but kept the larger low pinion diff in the rear.
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Re: 80 series front diff

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TheBigBoy wrote:
84sloth wrote:Hzj75 also have same high pinion front mate.
75 series diff centres are different. I have an 80 series and also have 2 75 series diff centres for sale right now. They are not the same
lol ya jackass :lol: u must have hj centres then bigboy
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by Mr DJ »

tom_286 wrote:
Mr DJ wrote:Didn't think 75's had HP front from factory, thought they were same as rear like 60's :?
hj75 had the same low pinion diff front and rear (same as 60s), hzj75 got the smaller high pinion diff in the front (along with bigger CV joints) but kept the larger low pinion diff in the rear.
Thanks for that, can you tell me if a 75 rear has a centred pumpkin or offset like 60's ??
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Re: 80 series front diff

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Mr DJ wrote:
tom_286 wrote:
Mr DJ wrote:Didn't think 75's had HP front from factory, thought they were same as rear like 60's :?
hj75 had the same low pinion diff front and rear (same as 60s), hzj75 got the smaller high pinion diff in the front (along with bigger CV joints) but kept the larger low pinion diff in the rear.
Thanks for that, can you tell me if a 75 rear has a centred pumpkin or offset like 60's ??
offset mate all landcruiser rear's are offset im pretty sure. from fj25 right thru to the latest n greatest 200
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by BJMorgo »

Front diff centres are 4.11 for 70 and 80 series - I think technically 4.1 repeater. Do they have 37 ring gear teath and 9 pinion teeth? 37/9 = 4.111111111....

Rear diffs are 4.1. Same for 80 series (according to my manual anyway). Presumably the centre diff takes up the small difference in full time 4WD mode. I don't know how many teeth the rear diffs have. Some fan of trivia must know. :)
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Re: 80 series front diff

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Thanks sloth ;)
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Re: 80 series front diff

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84sloth wrote:
TheBigBoy wrote:
84sloth wrote:Hzj75 also have same high pinion front mate.
75 series diff centres are different. I have an 80 series and also have 2 75 series diff centres for sale right now. They are not the same
lol ya jackass :lol: u must have hj centres then bigboy
lol, I have the 80 in the driveway and the diff centres sitting next to me. They are both high pinion. But they definately dont look the same mate.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by troopa »

Dan B, are you from traf?? I reckon i've heard about that 80 of yours, wicked bit of gear if its the one i'm thinkin of.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by dan b »

Yeah troopa that'd be mine! she's a wild bit of gear.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by RUFF »

TheBigBoy wrote:
84sloth wrote:
TheBigBoy wrote:
84sloth wrote:Hzj75 also have same high pinion front mate.
75 series diff centres are different. I have an 80 series and also have 2 75 series diff centres for sale right now. They are not the same
lol ya jackass :lol: u must have hj centres then bigboy
lol, I have the 80 in the driveway and the diff centres sitting next to me. They are both high pinion. But they definately dont look the same mate.

The two diff centres you have advertised here are not High Pinion Centres. They are low pinion centres.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by RED60 »

BJMorgo wrote:Front diff centres are 4.11 for 70 and 80 series - I think technically 4.1 repeater. Do they have 37 ring gear teath and 9 pinion teeth? 37/9 = 4.111111111....

Rear diffs are 4.1. Same for 80 series (according to my manual anyway). Presumably the centre diff takes up the small difference in full time 4WD mode. I don't know how many teeth the rear diffs have. Some fan of trivia must know. :)
As you say the true mathematical ratio is 4.1111111.... with the teeth count of 37/9.... I would think that the teeth count on the exact 4.1:1 would have to be 41/10 which gives the exact ratio.... the next EXACT multiple to give you EXACTLY 4.1:1 is 82/20, which while technically possible is very very unlikely.... :cool:
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by dogbreath_48 »

turn the picture upside down and they become low pinions
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Re: 80 series front diff

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So are they or arent they high pinions?? I dont mind if im wrong. Just want it cleared up. Because they were sold to me from the wreckers a while ago as high pinion 75 series front diff centres for my (FZJ75 94 model Ute). The crown wheel is 240mm (9.5") They where spares for my comp truck but I never used them and they just sat around in storage.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by RUFF »

TheBigBoy wrote:So are they or arent they high pinions?? I dont mind if im wrong. Just want it cleared up. Because they were sold to me from the wreckers a while ago as high pinion 75 series front diff centres for my (FZJ75 94 model Ute). The crown wheel is 240mm (9.5") They where spares for my comp truck but I never used them and they just sat around in storage.
The high pinion has an 8" crown wheel.
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Re: 80 series front diff

Post by Willy Hilux »

They are big low pinions. NOT high pinion.
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