coilovers from FOA

[discothrasher]

hey i am about to order some coilovers from FOA for my truggy,,, its main use is rock crawling what is the difference between the triple rate kit and the dual rate kithttp://f-o-a.com/shop/index.php?main_pa ... _uploads=0would i need the triple or is the dual suficient for what my use would be

cheers Kelvin

[zukIzzy]

there is no reason with proper length and rate springs you can't set up the shock with a dual rate kit. A tender spring ( triple rate) is a bandaid for improper spring sest up. Now knowing how limited springs are for you guys to get over there it may be something I would consider in case you had to make due with short or too stiff springs. FOA can get you springs all installed and shipped on the shocks if you need but thats a big guess as to what you may need spring rate wise. let me know if I can help with anything from here.

Wayne

[dck7aok]

Just my OPINION.

For the little bit extra it will make it a lot easier to get a setup that will do what you want - vs one that is SH#Thouse - first up.

You become very limited with your ride height options if your out a little, else the springs will dislocate at droop.

BTW i have never had first up success off a calculator......
In fact mine does not work like the calculator suggests it should....

And springs are available locally at $50-$100 per pair depending lengths - which adds up very quickly.

Dan

[discothrasher]

thanks for the response Wanye and Dan...so in short a good investment to get the triple rate just to have that little buffer in spring setup

[Ice]

i can send you some pics of the interals of mine... may change your mind about FOA, sent them photos and all and they didnt give a rats

not to mention when i bought some shims off them and they freighted them in a bloody shock box... i would not buy from them again...

[dave]

Give Mick from superior eng. a call they deal in Kings , Amada and profender coil overs and at very reasonable prices and great service.

[Z()LTAN]

I just got a set of 16x2.5 kings from Locktup 4x4.

I challenge you to find them at a better price landed!

[BlueSuzy]

I just got a set of 16x2.5 kings from Locktup 4x4.

I challenge you to find them at a better price landed!

Challenge accepted. How much?

My price would be if i got them,
4x 16"x 2.5" Kings straight hose ext res valved to suit, springs to suit Landed $3032usd

I just got 4 Kings 14" 2.0 valved+springs $2400 to my very happy feet.

[discothrasher]

I just got a set of 16x2.5 kings from Locktup 4x4.

I challenge you to find them at a better price landed!

so how much did you pay


as i have been quoted from FOA 4x 16x2.0 and 4x 14x2.0 without gas or springs a total 2564usd landed at my door thats 8 coilovers all ineed is to get the springs made at king springs 100aud a pair and gas them all 150 bucks

if locktup or anyone can beat that i will buy them from them definately rather support local companies

[Rolly]

as you know i have had foa in for 4 years and never had any dramas with them i would buy them again if i had to .
give me a call about spring rates we should be able to get pretty close using mine as a starting point.


cheers brett 0418719036

[Ice]

as you know i have had foa in for 4 years and never had any dramas with them i would buy them again if i had to .
give me a call about spring rates we should be able to get pretty close using mine as a starting point.


cheers brett 0418719036

I decided to post some pics as a few requests for them have been sent to me

Brett have you pulled yours apart ?

i was shocked when mine were dissasembled... The workmanship and care exhibited can only be described as rubbish and im not supprised to hear of others with them that leak

http://www.users.on.net/~ice/foa/foa.rar is a collection of photos. you can see they are littered with ally pieces, scoring on the bores and hammer marks where the miss fitting pistons have been hammered into them. hell the shaft was bent and wouldnt compress so they just hammered the piston down the bore. what gets me is when they were approached with the problem and the photos they didnt give a damn.. chris from locktup offered to replace the lot as he brough them in for me, but its not his fault its foa's assembly, look at the condition of them

have a look at the photos, you can see holes in the cast pistons, they should have been binned in the first place and never made it onto an assembled shock.. there has to be no q/a going on there whatsoever

[img]http://www.users.on.net/~ice/foa/Image0129.jpg[/img]

[Z()LTAN]

Lets just say I got my 4 coilovers and 4 bumps with cans for a little over what you would have payed for just your coilovers BlueSuzy.

Locktup 4x4 are a Kings dealer and if you dont mind waiting a while for parts shipping is very cheap.

[rockcrawler31]

http://www.users.on.net/~ice/foa/foa.rar

If you're going to take pics for evidenciary purposes then perhaps you should wipe off the vaseline off the lens. Not a single one of those pics was in focus enough to to see a single detail. In fact after looking at those pics i'm going to have to go and see a eye doctor for the residual blurring effect.

[BlueSuzy]

Pretty good Mine was 400 postage-5days, so you could find cheaper via container

[Ice]

http://www.users.on.net/~ice/foa/foa.rar

If you're going to take pics for evidenciary purposes then perhaps you should wipe off the vaseline off the lens. Not a single one of those pics was in focus enough to to see a single detail. In fact after looking at those pics i'm going to have to go and see a eye doctor for the residual blurring effect.

you cant miss the ally chunks all through them or the holes or the scores... yes a mobile camera... all i had there at the time.. probally a good thing you cant see how bad they are.. they obviously dont believe in deburring parts after machining either...

[discothrasher]

as you know i have had foa in for 4 years and never had any dramas with them i would buy them again if i had to .
give me a call about spring rates we should be able to get pretty close using mine as a starting point.


cheers brett 0418719036

thanks Brett myself and Greg will come down to see you once they here did you get the triple rate or the dual rate

AND THANKS WAYNE DAN AND BRETT FOR STAYING ON MY TOPIC AND NOT BETTING WHO CAN GET THEM THE CHEAPEST OR WHERE I SHOULD BY THEM FROM

[BlueSuzy]

We were just giving you better options

[V.W.Dave]

AND THANKS WAYNE DAN AND BRETT FOR STAYING ON MY TOPIC AND NOT BETTING WHO CAN GET THEM THE CHEAPEST OR WHERE I SHOULD BY THEM FROM

COULD YOU BE MORE IGNORANT? FOA are cheap over priced cr@p put together by blind 1 handed monkeys. The other people outside your mates were simply telling you there are better cheaper options.

[discothrasher]

We were just giving you better options

and the option side of conversation was taken on....but the betting on price crap had nothing to do with my original post

AND THANKS WAYNE DAN AND BRETT FOR STAYING ON MY TOPIC AND NOT BETTING WHO CAN GET THEM THE CHEAPEST OR WHERE I SHOULD BY THEM FROM

COULD YOU BE MORE IGNORANT? FOA are cheap over priced cr@p put together by blind 1 handed monkeys. The other people outside your mates were simply telling you there are better cheaper options.

could you be more of a arogant idiot and whats your problem if you have a personal probelm with me thats your own problem everytime i post you have a go at me ,big man the whole time behind the computor screen ,read the first post and my post which you have quoted nothing was stated about options

[V.W.Dave]

I don't target anyone just the narrow sighted. I have never gone looking for your posts they must just stand out.

If you re-read the complete thread you will see you got involved with the price pissing contest and then you shun/ down the people that did it. This is why I pointed you out as ignorant.
Anyone that knows me will tell you I do not hide behind any thing or anyone. I simply call things as I see them. I am as upfront and to the point in person.

[discothrasher]

I don't target anyone just the narrow sighted. I have never gone looking for your posts they must just stand out.

there you go again been a big& tough behind the computor

GOOD LUCK it will catch up to you one day

[Z()LTAN]

im just going to put it out there for the lol in this thread...

Typical rover owner

[discothrasher]

im just going to put it out there for the lol in this thread...

Typical rover owner

LOL

[BlueSuzy]

im just going to put it out there for the lol in this thread...

Typical rover owner

LOL

x2 Boobjuggler.

Just showed you a price so it may be an option for you. I know if i went foa,"First Over All" Which is a brand joke in itself, If they failed, I would of said, Damn i should of just got kings or fox for another 1k..

There was no bets either. It was a challenge

[Shadow]

im just going to put it out there for the lol in this thread...

Typical rover owner

LOL

x2 Boobjuggler.

Just showed you a price so it may be an option for you. I know if i went foa,"First Over All" Which is a brand joke in itself, If they failed, I would of said, Damn i should of just got kings or fox for another 1k..

There was no bets either. It was a challenge

i will take that bet

whats the odds.

[simkell]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... hlight=foa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[rockcrawler31]

Lol. everybody take a deep breath and chillax

[zukIzzy]

While I have had the same machining swarf poor QC and all the other problems with FOA. I will say exactly what I said in the Pirate thread. They are a good option for a low price point rebuildable shock. If I were in Australia I would think long and hard before I bought a set just because of the shipping in case there are problems. I would look around and see what was the most available locally if I were looking for shocks.Then weigh that against all the opinions. If you decide to go FOA I would be happy to give them a once over and then ship them to you. I do that for guys here who don't want to deal with it. It costs a bit but at least you know you are starting with a good shock.

for the Record Kings are making my racing a lot more comfortable in the right seat of Bomber these days.

[Ice]

a bit of an update, FOA are talking to me about the shocks, ill let you know what the outcome/any progress is...from looking at the thread on pirate they seem to be making an effort to fix up any previous issues that are out there..

[Ice]

Update, Foa are going to ship out the parts to replace the bits that wernt up to scratch or damaged in my coilovers, they were more than happy to fix them up for me but as you know shipping back and forth wouldnt make sense. ill let you all know when they arrive the time delay since my last post is my own doing trying to find a cost effective way to send 4 coilovers to the states
They are going a long way to make good any previous dramas with their products.