Tuff Truck 2013 - Results...

[Screwy]

Im sorting out my nomination over the next week for this. Should be good. Ive worked out how to put a headlight glass over the spotties so should be all good to go once my Atlas is installed. Bring it on!!!

[evanstaniland]

maybe on all Cookie..

why will i need to redo the cage its all made from the seamless shit?
even the taxi bar etc is seamless tube.
all bar the guards and slider??

Cos it's hideous haha let wes have his way!

[Collie14]

do we still get the pit passes

[Tuff Events]

do we still get the pit passes

Their should be all you need to know written here: http://tufftruck.com.au/nomination_information/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers

[kingpin]

hi i was planning on entering ttc this year as missed out on the last, my cage is 42.3x3.2 and main hoops by 4mm thick all CDS cromo. and meet CAMS and other event runner specks. have sent email to tony hoping!!!!!
but surely this tube quality and wall thickness has to be better than some out there that are only 2mm larger od but not stronger by any means

[evanstaniland]

if the rules say 44.45mmx2.5mm min for main hoops etc and you have 42.3 then really the answer SHOULD be NO as its not to the minimum specs of the rules at which the event is ran under.

[pricey]

Where did you read that cams spec rules state that tube? Both Cams and CCDA use 44.45mmx2.5mm min spec tube.

[kingpin]

spoke to soon boys,
i'll take that on the chin

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

[V.W.Dave]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

[WICKED]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Is that the knew rumor your starting now?

[pricey]

Ah it's that time of the year again when the simple people come out of hibernation.

[turbo gu]

Ah it's that time of the year again when the simple people come out of hibernation.

You should know by now that winning TT has nothing to do with driving abilty or a good truck its all about paying Pete to keep changing rules to make sure you win!!! hahahahaha

[Tuff Events]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

G'day Twon,

There will be no major changes at all from 2014. We feel the rules are fair, enforced & consistent throughout.

Also for the critics out their, I will reiterate the following.

* The roll cage rules have not changed since 2005. 1.75"/44.45mm OD - 2.5mm Wall - 350mpa, has always been the minimum spec for the B-pillar.

* Any team that has built a vehicle out of rubbish Black Pipe with view of competing in TT obviously had not even looked at the regulations prior to commencing. For the teams that had built their trucks for an alternate use, we are sorry but changes will need to be made.

* NO CCDA Sanctioned event allows anything less than the above spec.

* The front profile rule was a minor amendment as some teams front end's were becoming unrecognisable.

* Safety is paramount & we have given existing teams ample time to comply. ( there are less than current 15 teams affected by this )

We understand that the hard enforcement of these rules is tough on some, however I know that all TT organisers will sleep well knowing that Duty of Care has been shown in the event that anything horrific ever happened.

We wish all teams the best of luck for 2013, its again shaping up to be another HUGE weekend, with almost 30 nominations in thus far & just on 6 weeks until they close, we are in great stead for a FULL field of 60 Teams.

Regards
TT Management

[turbo gu]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

[Tuff Events]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

We ordered some Rain!

[turbo gu]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

We ordered some Rain!

mate you do have some good connections to make that happen!!
How much did Mal pay for that

[Tuff Events]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

We ordered some Rain!

mate you do have some good connections to make that happen!!
How much did Mal pay for that

He bought me an awesome Driza-Bone

[V.W.Dave]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

I am not going to keep on fueling this any more then this one last question a question I have asked a few times now but never get a reply.

Forget the grandfather B.S. rule. If I was to go out and build a exact replica 100% exactly the same "buggy" as OPWs with its narrower then allowed grill and less chassis then permitted would it be allowed to enter Tuff Truck?

[WICKED]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

I am not going to keep on fueling this any more then this one last question a question I have asked a few times now but never get a reply.

Forget the grandfather B.S. rule. If I was to go out and build a exact replica 100% exactly the same "buggy" as OPWs with its narrower then allowed grill and less chassis then permitted would it be allowed to enter Tuff Truck?

Are you allowed back too Ttc after showing everyone your tic tack pee pee?

[Tuff Events]

It would be good if there are major rule changes coming for 2014 that it is flagged up sooner to let people building get it right and for people to plan any changes etc.

HAHAHAH yahh right... Easy just go watch the comp and how ever the Maffia get beaten there will be a new rule or grey area put in place for next year.

Just wondering what rules were changed to allow Mal n Nick to win last year??

I am not going to keep on fueling this any more then this one last question a question I have asked a few times now but never get a reply.

Forget the grandfather B.S. rule. If I was to go out and build a exact replica 100% exactly the same "buggy" as OPWs with its narrower then allowed grill and less chassis then permitted would it be allowed to enter Tuff Truck?

Still barking up that tree hey Dave. Clearly your research is yet again flawed... The OPW Front Profile / Grill is exactly 80% & has been since it was built in 2008! & for the record this question has never been asked before on Outers that I've seen or RR! Feel free to lead me to the thread & I'll be glad to reply.

Toyota FJ40 Grill with Round Headlight's "Fact": Original Grill measures 1000mm in overall width, OPW's Grill is 800mm. = 80%

As for the chassis, read the TT Chassis rule & I'm sure that will answer your question! http://tufftruck.com.au/competitor-info ... gulations/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'll make sure OPW place some padding on the chassis just in case you hit your head on it while measuring it.

[V.W.Dave]

Have a look at post #63 http://www.rockracing4x4.com/forums/sho ... ease/page7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I have gone back and the time I asked it on here it was taken down before you could see it.

So the factory 40 chassis on your buggy that is at factory width finishes passed b pillar( or as you have said on the rules must go passed the END of the cab)? Hmmm from all the pictures on the net when you google search opw 40 you can see no chassis PASSED the B pillar. You can see that it finishes at the first tube that is the start of your B pillar it clearly dose not go passed the end of the cab.

[Tuff Events]

Have a look at post #63 http://www.rockracing4x4.com/forums/sho ... ease/page7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I have gone back and the time I asked it on here it was taken down before you could see it.

So the factory 40 chassis on your buggy that is at factory width finishes passed b pillar( or as you have said on the rules must go passed the END of the cab)? Hmmm from all the pictures on the net when you google search opw 40 you can see no chassis PASSED the B pillar. You can see that it finishes at the first tube that is the start of your B pillar it clearly dose not go passed the end of the cab.

Yet again Incorrect!! This chassis links in with the most rearward tube, & yes this chassis is past the B-pillar & equal with the extended B-pillar & yes this would be accepted today upon seeking permission from the competition managers.

In the rules we state behind the b-pillar! "i.e. back of cab" is only an example, not a stipulation.

The chassis used in this build is factory width/height/profile etc!



Also you missed a very important rule that effects a number of existing teams prior to 2010. Is this what you call the Grandfather BS Rule?
Note: These chassis rules above have been carefully considered and based around current and previous competing vehicles. However if some of these past vehicles are slightly outside of these guidelines, we have made the conclusion that these vehicles have no competitive advantage and will be accepted.

Any person that is actually planning to build a vehicle for TT or in the process has already been in contact with us to clarify many rules & in general just ask relevant questions to themselves.

I find your motive is purely an attempt to discredit Australia's Biggest 4WD Event & some particular teams.

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

you 2 should definitely hug it out.

Bring on ttc 2013!

[evanstaniland]

i have a question for you.

with cage designs like the OPW 40 and others that are similar, which cage design to the follow? as its not a ute style cage but its not a full internal? just chatting with a mate about his and it kind of fell into a grey area so thought it pot the question up? link?

cheers
Evan

[MrsForby]

P.S. Just for the record - nothing here has been taken down except some information regarding access to the TTC site which members of the general public did not need to know. Other than that, we did lose a number of posts/threads in recent crashes.

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

Evan,

the answers to the grey area with the cage can be found on dirty steves hammer.

Twon

[brooksy]

You're a sick puppy Twon !!!



brooksy

[Tuff Events]

i have a question for you.

with cage designs like the OPW 40 and others that are similar, which cage design to the follow? as its not a ute style cage but its not a full internal? just chatting with a mate about his and it kind of fell into a grey area so thought it pot the question up? link?

cheers
Evan

Anyone's cage that falls into a "grey" area should contact us with there ideas & clarification. We are not Nazi's, but safety is vital.

[Screwy]

someone should install a LIKE button on this forum. Id like most of the above lol