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Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by evanstaniland »

GU Junkie wrote:
& you will only be allowed to tow / winch over one obstacle at a time ... then you unhook to proceed
Last year on event 4 most people had to winch the whole length of the first hill over multiple obstacles. If you apply the above ruling thats probably going to use allowable every stop.


Just drive it without winching ;) we managed :)
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by pricey »

evanstaniland wrote:
GU Junkie wrote:
& you will only be allowed to tow / winch over one obstacle at a time ... then you unhook to proceed
Last year on event 4 most people had to winch the whole length of the first hill over multiple obstacles. If you apply the above ruling thats probably going to use allowable every stop.


Just drive it without winching ;) we managed :)
You cawks with big tyres chewed the fark outta that hill! By the time I got there (think I was the second last car on that track) that first step was huge!
Anyway, can't wait for this year :armsup:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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Where about is the new rules re scoring? Etc
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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evanstaniland wrote:Where about is the new rules re scoring? Etc
these can be found on the Canobolas clubs web site.

Toperi Challenge 2012 Rules and Regulations

Driver Check-in
1 To qualify for entry all vehicles MUST have, Original firewall in its original position, Original windscreen surround, Original “A” & “B” pillar in the original position, Original chassis must extend a min 300mm from front of firewall to behind the cab and cannot be altered from factory original width, MUST have opening doors.
2 Rego is not required.
3 All vehicles must have some sort of roll over protection.
4 As of 2013 all competing cars must have a roll cage which must meet CCDA specifications.

5 Drivers and navigators must have helmets and covered-in footwear
6 Drivers and navigators must have gloves
7 Approved (3.2 Ton rated min) recovery points must be fitted to front and rear of vehicle and must use high tensile bolts or be professionally welded on!
8 Vehicle must have fire extinguisher 0.9kg or greater fixed
9 Driver and navigator must present valid driver’s license
10 All soft top vehicles must be fitted with a roll bar and have sheeted roof.(1.6mm steel or 3mm in alloy)
11 All vehicles must have window nets.
12 All competing vehicles must have synthetic winch rope.
Scoring
1 The marshal’s decisions on the day will be deemed final. If any person or persons in a team chooses to abuse any of our officials, it will result in their team and club not being invited to any events run by our club
2 Points will be awarded for each vehicle where it fails to proceed or is called by one of the team.
3 20 points will be lost for each minor safety violation (including not wearing gloves)
4 , all winching will incur a 25 point penalty.
5 There will be a 10 point penalty for every tow recovery from car to car.
6 Not using winch dampers or stepping/jumping over a “live” cable will result in a 50 point safety penalty. (A cable is live once connected to a winch point.) This will be STRICTLY ENFORCED

7 In the event of a tie for 1st place, both teams or cars will drive track 4 again until we have a winner.
8 There will be a maximum of 6 stops per vehicle on each course, ( a stop will be deemed as not moving forward) each stop will be entitled to 1 reverse.
9 There will be a maximum of 5 min stop time per stage.

10 At scrutineering cars will be assessed to determine stop penalties. 42” tyres= 1 stop, , rear steer 1 stop,
11 All cars will be able to start ALL stages.

12 If you are still stuck after 3 attempts you will be out of that stage.


Bonus Lines
There will be bonus sections for all vehicle types, these will be explained in full at drivers briefing.Rules
1 Seat Belts must be worn whilst in vehicle
2 Helmets must be worn whilst in the vehicle
3 Navigator does not have to be in the vehicle at any point
4 Vehicles do not have to finish in order of starting
5 Both vehicles do not have to finish
6 Vehicles can pass each other as long as they remain within the track
7 Breaking of bunting will incur a 20 point penalty
8 Bending more than 45°, breaking, or dislodging bunting post (this includes trees) will incur a 20 point penalty
9 The navigators may move the bunting, but it will incur a 2 point penalty

10 Drivers and Navigators may stack rocks and logs, which are supplied inside of the track, without penalty. Rocks and logs may not be used from out side the course, spare wheels can NOT be used as packing.

11 Only drivers and navigators are allowed on the track (i.e. the 2 drivers, 2 navigators) to pack.
12 If one driver cannot proceed and is timed out he can assist the other members.
13 All team members (drivers, navigators) must start at the ‘start’ position and may not move along the course until the first car has gone over the start line.
14 Track packing may only occur once the first vehicle has past the start.
15 Manpower is not to be used to assist a car in any way, but a car may stabilized by wrapping a rated strap around a post/ tree.
16 Vehicles may not be manhandled.
17 Each vehicle will be given 3 attempts at each obstacle
18 There will be a 3 second count on each attempt, if the driver does not stop he will be DNF and points awarded at that location


19 When a vehicle has been timed out they must stop and leave the track as soon as possible. If they continue the whole team will be disqualified.
20 Vehicles can only winch off designated ‘W’ winch signed points or any point with a marshals approval.
21 All winching and recoveries must be within the track
22 There will be NO SNATCH recoveries between vehicles only use of TOW STRAPS to a MAX length of 5 metres.
23 If the front vehicle has had 3 attempts at an obstacle, is ruled out by an official the second vehicle can go around it as long as he remains within the track
24 If the front vehicle can still move unassisted he can move out of the way (within the track), if not the other car can attempt to go around or tow or winch him backwards out of the way.
25 All teams will self recover, but if recoveries are taking too long or are deemed unsafe, officials will stop the recovery and call in the recovery team
26 Any driver deemed to be driving in a dangerous manner or speeding either on or off the course will be disqualified and the club not be invited back
27 No Quad bikes or Motorbikes Allowed

28 no pets, no fires, fireworks.


This rules and regulations package has been put together so we can expedite Drivers Briefing on the day. Please make sure all team members read it carefully and if they have any questions ask! All vehicles will drive track 4.

Gates open 10.00am to 10pm Friday 6am Saturday onwards
Driver check-in will be from 5.30pm-till late Friday, 7.00am-10.00am Saturday
Driver briefing will be at 8.30am
Start will be at 9.00am if vehicles are not at the starting line when they are called they will not compete unless the starting Marshall has been notified with a legitimate excuse beforehand.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by CanberraMav »

evanstaniland wrote:
GU Junkie wrote:
& you will only be allowed to tow / winch over one obstacle at a time ... then you unhook to proceed
Last year on event 4 most people had to winch the whole length of the first hill over multiple obstacles. If you apply the above ruling thats probably going to use allowable every stop.


Just drive it without winching ;) we managed :)
Evan just put his hand up to go first :armsup:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by evanstaniland »

I was the first to drive it last year un assisted. Unfortunately i wont be competing this year
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by Toperi »

Should have the final start order up in a few days.
There will be a list at the front gate for all competitors, navis and crew.
Looks like we are going to get a fine dry weekend. :armsup:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by ferog »

Anyone wanting to compete in their vehicle?

It's looking like I may need a partner car. Will know for sure middle of this week. I am already paid and committed, ready to go.

Pm me if you need a team mate. I'm in Traction 4 club.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by screwwoole »

Not Long to go now. Just need to finish my Zook and wheel it at least once before the day. Ha ha.
Any more teaser pictures to come?????
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by Nerd »

Hi tony Is there going to be a DVD this year thanks :rofl:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by Toperi »

Here is the final start list, team 19 will be first on stage 2.
The weather looks like being perfect, there is going to be some good competition, the tracks are there to be driven!

1 Paul Monsuier Greg McDonald Toyota Hilux Alan Cox Andy Bates Toyota 40 series On All 4s
2 Brad Wilkins Aaron Wilson Nissan Patrol Tom Sethack Craig Price Nissan Patrol Mudgee 4x4
3 Emma English Jeremy English 80 Series Michael Brooks Ben Mitchell 4Runner Trac 4
4 Shaun Clancy Adam Tyson Toyota Hilux John Robertson Andrew Doring Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
5 Reece Warnecke Daniel Short Landcruiser Adam Walters Paul Beanan Hilux Bong Bong
6 Lynda Williams Colin Williams Hilux Robert Cole Ron Pearson Hilux Coalfields 4wd Club
7 Shane Loder John Mannix Toyota Hilux Grant Feltham Matt Shield Ford Bronco Blue Mountains
8 Steve Patten Paul Smith Nissan Patrol Tracey Johnston Josh Short Landcruiser Bong Bong
9 Brad Hamilton Daryl Hardiman Toyota Hilux Matt Borg Nathan Borg Toyota Hilux Blue Mountains
10 Nathan Hancock Ben Brown Toyota 73 Sreies John Swab Chad Lyons Land Cruiser Newcastle Landrover Club
11 Hamish Hudson Rick Sammons Suzuki Vitara Andrew Stanton Troy Bolton Suzuki Vitara ACT ATC
12 Mel Robinson Chris Robb Toyota 42 series Jay Flanagan Boyce Nichol Toyota Hilux Motorex
13 Thomas Barrett Michael Barrett Nissan Patrol Wayne Rumble John Adamson Hilux Brindabellas
14 Glen Richards Jeremy Hill Nissan Patrol Lewis Storey Mark Britt Nissan Patrol Motorex
15 Josh Heather Matt Wattson Toyota Hilux Mark Peters Joshua Armstrong Toyota Hilux Lithgow 4wd
16 Paul Gamble Steven Quinn 80 Series David Mattyieson Christian Martin Sierra On All 4s
17 Rob McKenzie Greg Finlay Suzuki Sierra Justin Thompson Bob Rutten Sierra ACT 4wd
18 Danny Radburn Jack Bannerman Hilux Mick Day TBA 80 Series Brindabellas
19 Paul Harris Dane Haigh Toyota Bunderra Steve Price Dean Sondergeld Toyota 40 series Locked In
20 Marshall Bell Don Bell Nissan Patrol Steven Juarez Peter Townsend Toyota 105 Serie Shellharbour 4wd Club
21 Ziggy Koeck TBA Range Rover Bob Watling Paul Saunderson Range Rover Brindabellas
22 Kurt Scheldrick Chase Berry 45 series Robert Biddle Luke Harris Nissan Patrol Brindabellas
23 Chris Tierney Mark Borg Toyota Hilux John Panetta James Gaynor Landcruiser Kamikaze
24 Michael Catanzariti Jason Catanzariti GQ Patrol Jason Brown Gerald Cornes GQ Patrol Brindabellas
25 Matt Diamond James Walsh 60 Series Dave Tucker Kevin Willis CJ5 Jeep Dubbo 4wd
26 Glenn Odlum Matt Sheffield Range Rover Michael Tot Les Tot Sierra ACT ATC
27 Marcus Donsworth Roland Marsh Suzuki Maruti Phil Meyers Ethen Humpries Suzuki Vitara Suzuki 4wd Club
28 Cameron Richardson Alex Hall Sierra Mathew Halse Ben Kennedy Sierra ACT ATC
30 Brett McCurley Glenn Russell Nissan Patrol Charles Bottemann Steven Grima Nissan Patrol AT4
31 Jason Rosochaki Robert Knight Hilux Danny Peters Brett Champere Toyota Hilux Lithgow
32 Nigel Fredericks Les Briggs Jeep TJ Lawrence depasquale Brenton Moule Sierra ACT 4wd
32 Charles Anastasio Chloe Neuman Hilux Michael Bennett Kieth Dyson Toyota 80 Sreies Bong Bong
33 Scott Omeley Michael Waterson 40 Series Nick Segrott Hache Everett-Deards Discovery Raymond Terrace
34 Jason Hearne Daniel Freeman Sierra Bogan Kable Joel Cooper Patrol Raymond Terrace
35 Rob Hutchinson Adam Shultz Sierra Brad Kosij Kean Peard Hilux Wellsprung
36 David Luke Max Serra Range Rover Luke Arnold Luke Davie Range Rover AT4

Good Luck everyone, see you all in a week.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by turbo gu »

Just wondering how we started as team 19 and ended up team 30??
I thought getting early was meant to put you up the order not down the order :?
Anyone got 40s they want to lend me? I think our little 37s might struggle that far down the run order :bad-words:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by screwwoole »

Yep, I was wondering the same thing. We started at team 30 and now team 35?
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by GU Junkie »

Could we also get clarification. Entry for first 10 was promoted as getting a chance to pick run order - which wasnt offered to us this year
Appreciate the feedback
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by brad 93hilux »

We paid and emailed forms when entries was around 15 and some how got lost (not fault of ours) then went to 30 and now 35? Not sure how this ended up happening. We a running on 35's + 37's so should be interesting
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by Toecutta »

Can someone please confirm.

7 Approved (3.2 Ton rated min) recovery points must be fitted to front and rear of vehicle and must use high tensile bolts or be professionally welded on!

Does this mean that the bolt on tow hooks are legal or are they a no go. I can't remember. :oops:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by brad 93hilux »

No the bolt on recovery hooks are ok (the rated ones) they are 10,000lb (4.5 Ton) and have high tensile bolts.
Just check if you didn't put them on someone hasn't used a low grade bolt.

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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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Toecutta wrote:Can someone please confirm.

7 Approved (3.2 Ton rated min) recovery points must be fitted to front and rear of vehicle and must use high tensile bolts or be professionally welded on!

Does this mean that the bolt on tow hooks are legal or are they a no go. I can't remember. :oops:
Please concider the fact we use an excavator to LIFT the vehicles out of the tracks .... we want something that we can attach the excavator chains to & lift the weight of your vehicle with , keep in mind that your vehicle may be on its side or on its roof when recoveries are started , so side loading on your recovery point has to be taken into concideration also .
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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Toperi wrote:The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
Is that a new rule for this year picking numbers out of a hat???? Thought it was first in first served??
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

Post by thunder »

We are happy to start in our position. And the guys with the massive 35s. It will be like a highway for you, When you get your turn later in the day :armsup:

I have competed in all toperi's and our best results were when we were back in the field on 37s.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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turbo gu wrote:
Toperi wrote:The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
Is that a new rule for this year picking numbers out of a hat???? Thought it was first in first served??
Settle down princess. When u put a comp on u can put us last if u wish.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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Toperi wrote:The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
Yeh that's fair enough just bad timing/luck for us.. All good at least it's fair.

Should be a great weekend no matter of starting order.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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who cares about the run order, we want track pics

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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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the gun wrote:
turbo gu wrote:
Toperi wrote:The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
Is that a new rule for this year picking numbers out of a hat???? Thought it was first in first served??
Settle down princess. When u put a comp on u can put us last if u wish.
I am quite settled here in a little princess dress! Just asking a question nothing more. Must have got lucky all the others years as we have always moved up the order.
If the Nissan trials still ran I would :finger:
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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[/quote]
Hey Shrek you dont need photos you will be looking at the back of a gq showing you what to do.[/quote]

:shock: Hey steve, Tell Marshall you want to go 1st.
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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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thunder wrote:

Hey Shrek you dont need photos you will be looking at the back of a gq showing you what to do.[/quote]

:shock: Hey steve, Tell Marshall you want to go 1st.[/quote]


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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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the gun wrote:
turbo gu wrote:
Toperi wrote:The first 10 entries recieved got to pick where they started, everyone else went in the hat the the positions they didnt take.
Is that a new rule for this year picking numbers out of a hat???? Thought it was first in first served??
Settle down princess. When u put a comp on u can put us last if u wish.
Lol :rofl:

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Re: Tough Dog Toperi Challenge 23rd-25th Nov 2012

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i didnt realize everyone was competing for sheep stations??
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