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running tie rods upside down

Post by crankycruiser »

So ive got my high steer on my 80 wagon, I've got one on my 80 Ute as well with the steering arm on top of the hs arm, my wagon is a bit lower so I'd like to run the arm under the hs arm.

This time I'm using std tierod end and was wondering if there's any reason you can't run a tierod upside down?



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Re: running tie rods upside down

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The Ute setup, as u can see the hole for the bolt/tierod is verticle, so it wouldnt put the tierod on any weird angles.


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Re: running tie rods upside down

Post by Baja Burley »

As long as it all fits and there's no clearance issues, there's no issue at all if the question is purely UP vs DOWN.
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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Baja Burley wrote:As long as it all fits and there's no clearance issues, there's no issue at all if the question is purely UP vs DOWN.
Yep as long as running them upside down has no adverse affects, then I'm happy !v
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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No problems. In case you didn't notice, the ball joint at the steering box is upside down on an 80 series ;)
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Re: running tie rods upside down

Post by toughnut »

The only problem is if you have tapered tie rod ends. The bolt section that goes through the steering stem. Most of them are tapered so they won't physically fit upside down. But if that isn't the case then no problem. Go for it.
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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oldmate wrote:No problems. In case you didn't notice, the ball joint at the steering box is upside down on an 80 series ;)
Haha oops, my bad :lol:
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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toughnut wrote:The only problem is if you have tapered tie rod ends. The bolt section that goes through the steering stem. Most of them are tapered so they won't physically fit upside down. But if that isn't the case then no problem. Go for it.
That bit is all good mate, I have a sleeve that welds in with the taper in it, so I can put it in which ever way I need :)
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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The taper at the steering box end can be reversed with a reamer, I've done it on my old patrol. worked a treat.
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crankycruiser wrote:
toughnut wrote:The only problem is if you have tapered tie rod ends. The bolt section that goes through the steering stem. Most of them are tapered so they won't physically fit upside down. But if that isn't the case then no problem. Go for it.
That bit is all good mate, I have a sleeve that welds in with the taper in it, so I can put it in which ever way I need :)
You cant weld steering components at all. Instant defect.

I do happen to own a reamer designed to cut the correct taper though.

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There's not much I can do about having to weld it in. That's the way it comes. Also a mate in tas got his hellfire high steer engineered, so must be able to pass it ?

Also I have a reamer as we had to turn up a new bush, but it won't help due to the size of the hole in the arm.
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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See the hole in the arm where the bush welds in... Not much I can do about it unfortunately.!

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Re: running tie rods upside down

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for anyone that may be interested, heres the finished result.

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No point worrying about welding in the taper when you have welded strongbacks to the tierods themselves
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J Top wrote:No point worrying about welding in the taper when you have welded strongbacks to the tierods themselves
One day I'll replace that with a proper arm.... It was a temporary fix years ago............
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Re: running tie rods upside down

Post by Hilux_Ryan »

Pretty sure the no welding steering components is more to do with cast iron parts as the heating changes the metallurgy and causes the metal to crystallise and break, or some such.

Billet high steer arms shouldnt be a problem :) or at least fabricated from steel plate items.
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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crankycruiser wrote:for anyone that may be interested, heres the finished result.

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Any issues Cranky?

How much lift does your wagon have?
I'm assuming your reason for running tierod upside down is for clearance to the chassis?
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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It's all running sweet mate! Very happy with it.

Yeah it's for chassis clearance, if it was on top I'd lose a bit of up travel.

It's only got 4" under it.
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Re: running tie rods upside down

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Sweet. Looks good.
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