OUTBACK CHALLENGE

Post by **Hoonz** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:36 pm

any more stories on kowari?

Post by **grimbo** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:05 pm

Just a quick? What sort of fuel range do you need? What sort of average speeds are the top runners doing or is speed no real advantage?

Post by **The Fish** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:18 pm

grimbo wrote:Just a quick? What sort of fuel range do you need? What sort of average speeds are the top runners doing or is speed no real advantage?

Fuel range required is anywhere between 750k's to 1500k's. Depends on the way you move through the competition areas and when you get to go to Packsaddle and Broken Hill or Menindee to re-fuel. As far as speeds are concerned most of the faster driving is during sand stages either in the dunes or along dried up river beds. Speed is important but due to it normally being on sand so is stability and handling. You really have to know your vehicles limits and constantly drive to those limits to match it with the top runners.

But at the end of the day as Jonesy said go there and be as competetive as your 4b can be and above all else have a blast.

I've competed the last 3 years and I'm addicted purely for the social enjoyment factor along with the wheelin.

Post by **The Fish** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:19 pm

Double post, don't know why!

Post by **grimbo** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:28 pm

What sort of support are you allowed ie can you have a vehicle carrying fuel for you. Just asking as my Sierra has a range of about 500-600km above that would require just so much fuel to be carried that it wouldn't be practical I don't reckon

Post by **The Fish** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:43 pm

Its common for comp cars to carry anywhere up to 4 jerry cans to give them the fuel range required. Last year I went up to compete as navi with 80ute who runs a big block and when fully loaded we were carring just under 400 litres of premium unleaded. Not cheap to re-fuel, especially in Broken Hill or Packsaddle.

Post by **Aus4wd** » Thu May 20, 2004 4:30 pm

I have an update, Darren and Sandy rolled their GQ SWB and now I have to jump in the car and drive a trailer up tonight and tow the bloody thing back!!!

Post by **Drafty** » Thu May 20, 2004 5:14 pm

Aus4wd wrote:I have an update, Darren and Sandy rolled their GQ SWB and now I have to jump in the car and drive a trailer up tonight and tow the bloody thing back!!!

Hope they went hurt Alison, enjoy the drive.

Post by **Aus4wd** » Thu May 20, 2004 5:37 pm

Darren has a sure shoulder, but they are both fine, I think they drove a little too hard to win a stage and whoops this happened.

The annoying bit is they are at Denian, so it's about 12 hours towing a trailer and another 3 hours out to Denian.

See you all next time!

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:32 pm

MORE
We have not heard about Rog or Al but all teams are meeting tonoght so we may have an update later tonoght so stay tuned.
BUT
*Hobzee cleard the winch wall this time and had a much easier drive thru 13km grorge run. Maybe tire size??
*Colin Pond is back in competitiion after getting a steering box up from Hall 4x4 Salvage in Melbourne. The lenghts we go to
*Greg Scanlon is back with group after fuel problems
*Hobzee has killed his alternator and is charging his batteries with other teams vehicles during down time. Great team effort me thinks
*Mal Graham isn't with rest of group and not known where abouts?
*Guy Holt (Black Rat 80) broke both CV's tackelling winch wall but still moving.

Hopefully more later or 1st thing in morning.
Gotta hate rolling Greenie & Sandy but at least theyre OK. I'm sure they'll be back.

Jonesy

Post by **MUSS** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:34 pm

Terrafirma wrote:any more stories on kowari?

sounds like a war zone........MYTTUFF or some one cood you guys inform us about team KOWARI??? havent heard from em since last saturday..... matt and cam must be rooted

Post by **MYTTUF** » Thu May 20, 2004 6:38 pm

Will hopefully post more later and will try to find out about Team KOWARI so stay tuned.

Post by **moose** » Thu May 20, 2004 10:09 pm

Zooks have done the outback numerous times !!!
Andrew (Sime tyres) is up there again this year !!
there was a yellow LWB ute a couple of years ago !!!

its all about tank size & a load placement !!!

Post by **PMT** » Thu May 20, 2004 10:10 pm

MYTTUF wrote:Will hopefully post more later and will try to find out ab
out Team KOWARI so stay tuned.

hey jonsey if you can could you enquire about laurie sternbeck & sean calcino.
thanx

Post by **okz00k** » Fri May 21, 2004 1:48 pm

Jonsey, are you going up tomorrow? Do you know if and where the CCDA meeting will be?

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 21, 2004 3:34 pm

Hey All my where abouts is at home in sunny Newport after along drive home :cry:

All was going great after fitting the new gearbox(thanks peterAMV) and paul for bring it up

we managed to tie for 5th spot with Darren Green on Saturdays nights run

We continued doing good fast times & the car felt great,anyway to cut along story short we arrived in Broken Hill from transport from Denian got ordered a Pizza then out of the blue the transfer made a few noises then it got worse :cry:

We where tempeted to take the transfer out of the tow vehicle but we had already had 2 DNF's so loosing 100 points for not getting the transport in time plus missing the next SS another 100 points we decided to call it a day

So headed home mostly so my Navi could be with his family

To the rest still going i wish i was still out there :cool:

Out of the group i was in (group b) Dean Killmurray & Jack Talbot when last i saw them had no DNF'S and where coming on strong & also Chunk was going great guns as well nearly driving the sand wall at Denian but at that stage had one DNF at the Mud.Also John Howath & Peter Renolds no DNF's and will hopefully be near the top ten.

Best bit was beating Hobbsy at Denian by 2 seconds in the Motorkana course & Gunbarrel

sorry mate had to rub it in

Cheers all Mal

Post by **Drafty** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:17 pm

Sorry to hear you had to call it quits Mal. Atleast you were there to experience and feel the rush of adrenalin for part of the comp.

We have been borbarded with news of breakages and damage on the site, how did you find this years event compared to last year in the way of difficulty?

Post by **MYTTUF** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:40 pm

OKZOOK I wont be going up for tomorrow but will ask Hobzee where the meeting is when I can finally get thru to him. The must be in a ditch or a hole as last year the phone worked in most places and he's been outa range every time I've tried calling today.
Jonesy

Post by **MYTTUF** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:54 pm

Great to hear you got home safely Mal but not good about the Rangie. I'm sure you'll get it fixed and be back competing sometime soon.
Jonesy

Post by **Britswed** » Fri May 21, 2004 4:55 pm

Joe last year we had a geat run no punctures(this year we plugged atleast 15) its hard to put the comp in there as putting a tranmission in on Saturday( afew times) really stuffed us.I was a walking Zombie for the first few days & also we lost our high pressure hose on the steering box so resulted in very tough SS'S.

B group was fantastic

New Dean,Chunk,Henry,Hobbys & John from last year didnt really get to speak much wth the Scandlins(thanks for the tips on tyre changing) & colin(brawn) ect

We went hard this year & for abit was great but het thats """"""""""""

Cheers Mal

Post by **Drafty** » Fri May 21, 2004 6:47 pm

Britswed wrote:Joe last year we had a geat run no punctures(this year we plugged atleast 15)

Mal just out of curiosity did you run new tires this year or had they been used b4. Curious as we had over 40 punctures last year on used tyres, trying to see if this may be the reason.

Post by **bogged** » Sat May 22, 2004 1:54 am

moose wrote:Andrew (Sime tyres) is up there again this year !!

pass his place everyday on way to the shops. is he on the board?

Post by **MKPatrolGuy** » Sat May 22, 2004 7:44 am

Aus4wd wrote:Darren has a sure shoulder, but they are both fine, I think they drove a little too hard to win a stage and whoops this happened.

The annoying bit is they are at Denian, so it's about 12 hours towing a trailer and another 3 hours out to Denian.

See you all next time!

Was speaking to Cheezy last night, apparently Allison got almost all the way there then Darren's Missus's Injected 5L GQ she was driving....burnt completely to the ground!! :shock:

All passengers OK so I hear. Fire got so hot that there is nothing salvagable, it even melted the springs into coil bind.

Post by **MYTTUF** » Sat May 22, 2004 10:35 am

MORE

*Hobbsy alt probs got worse and flattened battery which left phone not working and not in contact but has just called.
*Yesterday teams were together at Nundooka and were split into 3 groups in order of placing and did 3 SS, a dry ck run, some more mud and re-did the goat run with a different winching gate.
*Top group included, not in any order, Chipper, Roger Smith, Dean Killmurray, Team Kiwi, Cass Jones, Dallas Rundle, Chris Hummer, Kim Bolton and some more but cant remember who
*Hobbsy is driving the straghtest truck
*Allan Mai, Cass Jones & Lowie drove sand wall and Chunk came very close.
*Bill Lyne went back into competition and is now being towed back to B/Hill
*Chipper suffered fuel problems yesterday in mud SS
*Rog damaged shocker and finished ck run without it and now has an oil pressure (lack of) problem

Stay tuned as presentation is this arvo and we'll find out who won and I will let you all know as soon as I do.

Jonesy

CCDA meeting was held before the event started and ther will be none today.

Post by **bogged** » Sat May 22, 2004 11:30 am

MKPatrolGuy wrote:Was speaking to Cheezy last night, apparently Allison got almost all the way there then Darren's Missus's Injected 5L GQ she was driving....burnt completely to the ground!!

All passengers OK so I hear. Fire got so hot that there is nothing salvagable, it even melted the springs into coil bind.

Women drivers.... :shock:

as long as they are ok, all is kewlish..

Post by **Juzza** » Sat May 22, 2004 1:13 pm

MYTTUF wrote:MORE
*Hobbsy is driving the straghtest truck

Hard to believe!

Post by **MYTTUF** » Sat May 22, 2004 1:52 pm

Except for the paasenger door I believe but then I may have had something to do with that last year in the gorge.

Does anyone wanna make any predictions on who has won?

If all is correct I reckon either Cass Jones or someone from the un-heard of group.

Jonesy

Post by **dogrooter** » Sat May 22, 2004 1:58 pm

My bet is on Chris Hummer or Sean Calcino/ Laurie Sternbeck.

Post by **MYTTUF** » Sat May 22, 2004 2:14 pm

But Mr Hummer likes being 3rd as that's what he's placed lately in a few events, but he is in the unknown group and may just well do it. I reckon Laurie and Sean would have been competitive but the speed, or lack of it from the 2.8 diesel, may have put them back some. We'll see soon.

Post by **dogrooter** » Sat May 22, 2004 2:18 pm

The presentation started at 12pm so we should hear something by about 5pm.

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