2F or 3F in 76 Toyota

Post by **Reddo** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:47 pm

Hey everyone

Okay heres the question. Today there was an add in the local rag and it reads like this,

Land Cruiser
76, with 85 motor, good mech, as is or will wreck, $800.

The problem is I wanted to know what motor this is, and I suggested that it might be the 2F. To this he said it was either the 2F or 3F, and he can to the conclusion that it was the 3F.
I wasn’t aware there was a 3F ever made. The details he supplied were that it was the Petrol 6 with a 350 holly carbie set up. And my question is which engine do you think it is, because when I asked weather the g-box was 4 or a 5 speed, he said a 4.

James

Post by **bj56** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:18 pm

2f will have 2f on the top off the rocker cover

Post by **DIRTY ROCK STAR** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:29 pm

mate the 3F was in the 60 series to my knowledge.

the early 60s had a 2F in the petrols, then the later had a 3F.

im pretty sure on this.

Post by **ORSM45** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:35 pm

2Fs werent know for reving freely thats why the 3Fs were designed with a shorter stroke, all they did was put a shorter stroke in a 2F and came in at the 4.0L mark. (2Fs being 4.2L) raising the torque curve to higher RPM.

id say its a 3F as it was made in 85. 3Fs had fuel injection too. but i think the earlier ones had a carb.

gearboxs can be mixed and matched so thats not really any help. he may of just picked up a newer engine and did a swap which id say is the case.

MaccA

Post by **Reddo** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:33 pm

Look thanks very much for your help fellas,

Having a look at it tomorrow, maybe if its still there :cool:

James

Post by **Reddo** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:34 pm

BTW, do they still drink like an alco, or are they better on fuel?

James

Post by **MUSS** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:25 pm

chuck a HYCLONE on the bugger :rofl:

Post by **MUSS** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:26 pm

chuck a HYCLONE on the bugger :rofl:

Post by **Fieldsy** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:18 pm

Reddo wrote:BTW, do they still drink like an alco, or are they better on fuel?

a bit better but still not good

I thought all 3f's were carby here in OZ the yanks got the fuel injection

Post by **MacroP** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:30 pm

Fieldsy wrote:
Reddo wrote:BTW, do they still drink like an alco, or are they better on fuel?

a bit better but still not good

I thought all 3f's were carby here in OZ the yanks got the fuel injection

Early 80 series' had the 3F-E for a short while before the 1FZ was released.

Post by **Reddo** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:34 pm

Fieldsy wrote:
Reddo wrote:BTW, do they still drink like an alco, or are they better on fuel?

a bit better but still not good

I thought all 3f's were carby here in OZ the yanks got the fuel injection

Yeah, ive been reading up on them now, but its always good to hear from as many ppl as possible

Thanks guys :cool:

James

Post by **roscoFJ73** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:01 am

I think they were all 3F from 1984 onwards in OZ.
The 2F went out with the 45 series here.
The Americans had the 2F until the the 62 series come out with the fuel injected 3Fe.

Post by **Fieldsy** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:24 am

roscoFJ73 wrote:I think they were all 3F from 1984 onwards in OZ.
The 2F went out with the 45 series here.
The Americans had the 2F until the the 62 series come out with the fuel injected 3Fe.

all the FJ60's had the 2F till 84 and I am prity sure all were carb. in 85 when the FJ62 came in they went over to the 3F I know this coz that is were the motor in my shortie came from. and coz I'm good. ........ and the workshop manual say's so ....... and redbook.

But as allways I could be wrong

Post by **the_smoo** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:15 am

the first few letters/ numbers of the vehicle identification number will tell you what donk it has..

no number in front of the F..... F motor
2 in front of the F..... 2F

i am almost definite that it will be a 2F unless it has been changed out from original

Post by **dumbdunce** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:58 pm

the_smoo wrote:the first few letters/ numbers of the vehicle identification number will tell you what donk it has..

no number in front of the F..... F motor
2 in front of the F..... 2F

i am almost definite that it will be a 2F unless it has been changed out from original

did you even read the original message?

reddo don't do it dude, stick with the diesel or convert it to a newschool EFI motor, all the F series motors are awful especially in fuel economy.

Post by **the_smoo** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:11 pm

read everything but the 85 motor bit :oops:

thought the question was a bit strange..

the replys make more sense now tho :lol:

Post by **Reddo** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:14 pm

offer fell through, no more help needed guys, but thanks very much :cool:

James

Post by **roscoFJ73** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:44 am

Fieldsy wrote:
roscoFJ73 wrote:I think they were all 3F from 1984 onwards in OZ.
The 2F went out with the 45 series here.
The Americans had the 2F until the the 62 series come out with the fuel injected 3Fe.

all the FJ60's had the 2F till 84 and I am prity sure all were carb. in 85 when the FJ62 came in they went over to the 3F I know this coz that is were the motor in my shortie came from. and coz I'm good. ........ and the workshop manual say's so ....... and redbook.

Says the 3F was introduced in 84 here and also says the 3FE was introduced in 88 here but Ive never seen one(TLC FAQ)

Series Australia Canada U.S.A. Japan
B 78-80 NA NA 74-80
2B 80-82
3B 81-90 81-87 NA 81-90
13B-T ??-90 NA NA 84-90

F 58?-74 58?-74 55-74
2F 75-84 75-87 74-87
3F 84-92 NA NA
3F-E 88-92 88-92 88-92

But as allways I could be wrong

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