Power Steering

Post by **Badooky** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:43 pm

how do people go with big tyres and no power steer
have people swaped in power steering
ive seen a kit somewhere (USA 4x4 i think) but unsure
i have all the gear that came on the vit front cut, can i graft it onto my w/t maruti steering??
thanks
Brett

Post by **RB zook** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:49 pm

i know that the jimny box mounts are verry simular to the sierra ones so the box can be mounted without too much drama.

Post by **raqmup** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:24 pm

Badooky wrote:how do people go with big tyres and no power steer
have people swaped in power steering
ive seen a kit somewhere (USA 4x4 i think) but unsure
i have all the gear that came on the vit front cut, can i graft it onto my w/t maruti steering??
thanks
Brett

Try calling a shop in Melb called 4Play Offroad, they swap in standard vitara power steering into sierra's- I've had it done...
(03)9761-4694 :lol:

Post by **droopypete** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:29 pm

Beef up, limp wristed sissy boy
:finger:

Peter.

Post by **raqmup** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:19 am

that for me droopypete? :?:

hope not, like to see people turning stationary 33x12.5 m117's at 5psi without pwr steer

Post by **moose** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:19 am

I do it at 4psi !!!

go cook me a steak ragumup !!!!! :armsup:

33x12.5 swampers !!! NO PS !!!!

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:49 am

No mate it wasn't for you,
but seeing as you have droped your pants and bent over in front of me

try it at 3psi with 33x13.5 and my 120KG carcass on board,
make that two steaks, medium rear,
and cook yourself a vegie burger while you are at it :finger:

Peter.

Post by **moose** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:52 am

& I wasnt aiming at you !!!

ragumup is a chef !!!!

I was stirring the pot !!! so to speak !!! :rofl:

Post by **droopypete** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:55 am

Moose!!!!!!!!!!
you da man!!!!!!!!!
Peter!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **moose** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:01 am

nah , nah !!!
you are DA man !!!
I,m just a boy !!! :armsup:

Post by **No Idea** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:16 am

I did it myself on mine - with cross over steer as well.
Vit box and pump + a few extras

Post by **sierrajim** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:06 am

any pictures of the box mounts? I'm about to do the steering on mine. many pictures make light work.

Post by **redzook** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:41 pm

is the vit power steer strong enough? most on pirate say its to weak!

any one over here use ifs lux?

Post by **No Idea** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:34 pm

I will get pics on the weekend for you.
Redzook,
I had 35s - didn't get a chance to go offroad with it, but it wasn't really light, just right I would say.
There was assistance there, but you could still feel the road if you know what I mean.
Others on this board have the vit steer and say that it works well - I think one had 33s on with the steer.

Post by **raqmup** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:16 pm

moose wrote:I do it at 4psi !!!
go cook me a steak ragumup !!!!!

33x12.5 swampers !!! NO PS !!!!

No worries honey, would you like a glass of red to go with the tenderised road kill? I picked it outta ur swampers just 4u

Moose, you too tuff for all of us man, however, you are right- it is easy to turn 4 psi swampers when your trucks on its side- outside 4Play... hehe! :finger:

Shrimps on the barbie 4 ya craig!

Post by **mike** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:44 pm

I have a Jimney PS box in my sierra... bolted straight in

Post by **moose** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:40 am

raqmup wrote:
moose wrote:I do it at 4psi !!!
go cook me a steak ragumup !!!!!

33x12.5 swampers !!! NO PS !!!!

No worries honey, would you like a glass of red to go with the tenderised road kill? I picked it outta ur swampers just 4u

Moose, you too tuff for all of us man, however, you are right- it is easy to turn 4 psi swampers when your trucks on its side- outside 4Play... hehe!
Shrimps on the barbie 4 ya craig!

Oh

at people who dont know the facts !!!

it wasn,t on its side !!!

IT WAS ON ITS ROOF !!!!!

& it was as hard as hell to turn !!!
(the steering wheel was jammed on the concrete !!) :oops:

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:20 am

The vitara box is not too hard to fit, but the bolt pattern is different, so there is some fabrication involved. also, to get the box in the optimum position, there are a couple of issues with pitman arm position. ( you can't fit a sierra arm to a vit box :cry:

It is not the best box in the world, but I have only had experience with it steering 36's at under 5psi, so most boxes will stall out under some circumstances.

I would straight fit a jimny box. It is probably about as "strong" as a vit box, but the lack of fabrication involved in fiting it would have to be a plus.

Post by **Damo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:37 am

redzook wrote:is the vit power steer strong enough? most on pirate say its to weak!

any one over here use ifs lux?

The box is plenty beefy. The pump seems small but has worked fine for me.

Post by **Damo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:43 am

Gwagensteve wrote:also, to get the box in the optimum position, there are a couple of issues with pitman arm position. ( you can't fit a sierra arm to a vit box

Use a pitman arm off an early model Tarago.

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:58 pm

Thanks for the tip re tarago. When we remounted the vit steering box on Critta, we ended up using a vit arm, but the clearance between the top of the ball joint stud and the chassis is pretty tight. Has never touched though. It is a much flatter arm, which is cool though, as in our application (SPUA, no flex :lol:

) it gets everything up and out of the way nicely. For my money though, with a more stock sierra, I would go Jimny, as there will be no need to fabricate. Should make certificatons HEAPS easier too.

Post by **sierrajim** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:03 pm

What is involved in adapting the input shaft off the sierra to a jimminy box?

I really do like the idea of less work. Just means the vehicle gets finished earlier

Post by **grimbo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:45 pm

just a heads up. the power steering bits are very $$$$ looking at around $1300 :shock:

Post by **zooki** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 5:47 pm

when looking at all this I got quoted $400 for a Jimny box, then use vitara pump and pulleys.

I ended up with the whole lot out of a SIERRA for $450 :armsup:

Jap ones had power steer and EFI 1.3s in them, more people should hassle there local import wrecker to get them, I was quoted $1200 for a halfcut with 1.3 EFI P/S and aircon + good panels to sell.

Post by **CHOPZUKI** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:01 pm

you poor buggers......... i just finished plumbing up my new hydro reservoir

little finger steering lock to lock with a welded diff and runnin 4psi in 37mtrs :cool:

anyone jealous :finger:

Post by **runnin4life** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:18 pm

you luky one lol
how much did the hole set up cost and im pretty sure its for your buggy
would you be able to put hydro steering in a car or 4wd and get it registered

Post by **mike** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:54 am

zooki wrote:when looking at all this I got quoted $400 for a Jimny box, then use vitara pump and pulleys.

I ended up with the whole lot out of a SIERRA for $450

Jap ones had power steer and EFI 1.3s in them, more people should hassle there local import wrecker to get them, I was quoted $1200 for a halfcut with 1.3 EFI P/S and aircon + good panels to sell.

that jimny box is a great price.
Jimny box is definitely the best answer - no mods to chassis required at all. I used the jimny pitman with no dramas.

Post by **sierrajim** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:00 am

i just got priced $375-400 in melbourne as well

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