Choose my 4x4 in 2005 for me...

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:02 pm

Well as some of you know i am moving to Newman, WA in December. I need to buy a 4by before i leave, either new or second hand. So here is what i need...

I need it reasonably consumption friendly.
I need a towing capacity to cover a horse float or a car trailer with comp rig. that i may be building.
I need something comfortable and easy enough to drive up to Port headland or beyond on a weekend.

I will be only modding it slightly as i plan to build a play rig up there but would like it to be fairly capable.

I have my favourites but i wont let in on that yet.

Post by **Leprecaun** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:06 pm

I personally like the Nissan coil cab, capable enough, 4wd monthly review on it was good as well. A damm side more comfy than the rangie and a few more of the extras than the hilux, still you either get a toyo or nissan.... The landie has the better towing ability and is quite capable off road(not talking serious mods or buggys here) once you add a few little things.

Post by **landy_man** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:25 pm

bundyboy wrote:Well as some of you know i am moving to Newman, WA in December. I need to buy a 4by before i leave, either new or second hand. So here is what i need...

I need it reasonably consumption friendly.
I need a towing capacity to cover a horse float or a car trailer with comp rig. that i may be building.
I need something comfortable and easy enough to drive up to Port headland or beyond on a weekend.

I will be only modding it slightly as i plan to build a play rig up there but would like it to be fairly capable.

I have my favourites but i wont let in on that yet.

I went the Landie for a few reasons and ideas...
a 300 Tdi (so second hand)
reliable, economic Tdi
best towing capacity
rear salisbury diff... which is similar to D60
and I reckon best offroad performer OFF THE FLOOR
and they are more comfortable than you think on long drives especially...
lots of aftermarket support

But, that is just me...

Post by **Thor** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:54 pm

patrol coil cab... the roads out there will mean coil = god send.
IMHO hilux is a rough ride, holdens are poor basic quality, and landy is not comfortable.

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:00 pm

I voted patrol coil cab, but wouldn't say you were nuts if you went for the landie. In fact i'd probably just keep my eyes out for an exceptional deal on either, and grab whichever appeared first.

Forget the others.

Jason

Post by **Daisy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:15 pm

stats prove themselves..

GU COIL CAB

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:32 pm

GQ wrote:stats prove themselves..

GU COIL CAB

In fairness, this would have to be partly because there is no landcruiser up there on the list. I'd have thought that would also be a contender. A hilux is a match for a navara (if that), not for a patrol.

So the poll is sort of a pro-nissan set-up.

Jason

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:52 pm

If you want it to be comfortable for long distance trips then get either the Defender or the Patrol. The others don't compare in terms of comfort.

Of that list the Defender (300Tdi) would be the most economical and has the highest towing capacity (depending on state regs).

Post by **RUFF** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:27 pm

Out of that list your not going to find anything that can tow and also handle the country where your headed better than either the Nissan coil Cab or the Defender.

The Defender will tow more and is more economical.
The seating comfort in the Nissan will out do the Defender.

Post by **MissDrew** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:45 pm

Denfeder`s are crap, lets pay shit loads for something that looks like it came off Noahs arc :roll:

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:50 pm

Guts wrote:Denfeder`s are crap, lets pay shit loads for something that looks like it came off Noahs arc

lol

I agree they are overpriced but I reckon they look pretty good. They have a real tough look. I like the dual cab ones better than the single cabs but the single cabs are heaps cheaper.

But yeah. In terms of bang for bucks the patrol is gonna beat the defender.

Jason

Post by **Drafty** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:51 pm

Guts wrote:Denfeder`s are crap, lets pay shit loads for something that looks like it came off Noahs arc

Stop holding back Guts, why dont you tell us what you really think about defenders.

Post by **MissDrew** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:11 pm

Only good thing about defenders is they make use of all the empty jimy cans I make

Oh look I have a future defender door in my fridge :rofl:

Post by **landy_man** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:14 pm

and 70% of all those recycled cans are still on the road today

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:39 pm

i also was going to put 7* series landcruiser and jeep wrangler on the list as options. But you have to stop somewhere.

But then again, what the hell.... edit time.

Post by **bundyboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:42 pm

I have reviewed my financial situation and i will be spending between 30-40 ish dollars on a SECOND HAND VEHICLE.

so all the options are now second hand buys only.

Post by **chimpboy** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:37 pm

So you added the Wrangler for a bit of a joke, right?

Post by **DaveS3** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:08 pm

With the defender, the are much more comfortable than most people think. Most complaints come from the seat which you either love / hate!

There are great aftermarket seats for the defender made by Aerotech, which have a removeable base, so you can keep the storage under the seat if need be for tools/battery...etc

It is a good all round vehicle...

Dave

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:24 pm

The Defender is extremely comfortable for long trips (IMHO - I like the seats - some people think they are a bit narrow) and fuel consumption under 10L/100 is easily achievable.

The price is also great for one that is a few years old but still in good nick. If you want a lot of load capacity have a look at a Defender 130 Trayback. They have a 1.5 tonne payload capacity, and if you don't want to use it you can take the rear inner coils out and get good wheel travel. Also in states where towing capacity is limited by vehicle weight (QLD) you can tow a heap more than the other options.

If the buggy you build has a short wheelbase you may even be able to fit it on the tray of a 130???

Post by **LEXX** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:55 am

Where is the option for Jeep Wrangler of Jeep ZJ/XJ/KJ?

Post by **LEXX** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:57 am

Sorry I stand corrected, good to see

Post by **GRIMACE** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:19 am

I say the 7* series UTE

spend abit of the left over dosh for a coil aframe rear end :armsup:

Go the defender

2" spring lift and some bigger rubber :cool:

longer travel shocks and some new front seats :lol:

make sure its a 110 thou

Post by **antt** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:03 am

what sorta vehicles do they use in the mine over there joel? could be a major consideration when it comes time for spare parts

saying that, i voted nissan coil cab ute, no contest

Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:13 am

antt
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:03 am

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what sorta vehicles do they use in the mine over there joel? could be a major consideration when it comes time for spare parts

saying that, i voted nissan coil cab ute, no contest

they have brand new 100 series landcruisers turned into dual cab utes with a small tray on the back... very sexy but also hexy!!!

I too would like a Nissan coil cab but i wonder if it iwll step above my dollars mark.

Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:15 am

As for the land rover i dont want a very long vehicle and not really interested in a dual cab.

So i may have to go test drive some single cabs for comfort.

Post by **Thor** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:35 pm

jeep wrangler wouldn't be practical for your application - esp the tow capacity!

Post by **bogged** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:21 pm

find out what car dealers are in town, then go with one of them. or what they use in the mines out that way, you can swap and shoofty parts with the mine dudes.

what is your budget?

?

Post by **bundyboy** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:47 pm

The parts are pretty good up there for both toyota and nissan, not sure about land rover.

But since the company is moving my stuff for me, i am buying the vehicle in Brisbane.

Post by **DR Frankenstine** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:06 pm

Guts wrote:Denfeder`s are crap, lets pay shit loads for something that looks like it came off Noahs arc

I agree. get this Tilford Motors in Hobart won't trade landy's or rangies under any circumstances. AND THEY SELL THEM NEW! :lol:

Post by **daveo** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:13 pm

bundyboy wrote:
antt
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:03 am

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what sorta vehicles do they use in the mine over there joel? could be a major consideration when it comes time for spare parts

saying that, i voted nissan coil cab ute, no contest

they have brand new 100 series landcruisers turned into dual cab utes with a small tray on the back... very sexy but also hexy!!!

I too would like a Nissan coil cab but i wonder if it iwll step above my dollars mark.

in regards to the price of the coil cab nissan, a mate of mine just picked up a 2002 coil cab with 63 000k for around $37000

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