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Post by bigsteve »

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:No updates have been to busy.
It is close probably needs 2 days work and it is done.
Cost wise don't know will add it up when it is finished but doing the labour myself makes it quite cheap.
SAM :D


Whats the ruff $$$ on the engine alone??
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Okay finally got it running today.What a biatch. We had dramas getting it to run for the last three weeks we have been chasing the right diagram to work out why.
We could get it to crank and fire but wouldn't run.
When we fitted the engine we used a Vitara cam so we could run the right angle drive disi.All seemed okay.When we tried to start it we could only get 4 pulses from the ignitor .
We tried different disi's ignitors power supplies everything.
Even the plug on the Baleno loom matched the vit disi.
Decided to go out to Suzisport and have a look at another one out there that they had.
Went through all the wiring everything was spot on.
Decided as a last resort to have a look inside the standard disi.After we had already decided it must be the same inside as Vit.
Took the cap off all looked the same then :shock: :shock: I noticed there was an extra tooth on the shaft. It was a TDC reading for the Computer.
As the computer does all the timing map as well it needed this signal.
Ended up building one disi out of the 2 and low and behold it runs. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Bigsteve Suzisport were selling the whole conversion for just under $2000


SAM


Big thanks to Micheal and the boys at Suzi sport for all the help.
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Post by SAWZALL »

WWWAAAAAHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by moose »

So ???
how well does it go ???

Joe at 4Play just did a 1.6 Baleno swap !!
with the 4 individual igniter packs !!
(Jimny inlet manifold bolts straight on !!)
so you can fit it under the bonnet , NO BODY LIFT !!! :D
havent heard how well that goes yet !!
might go visit 2day !!
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Post by DRV11T »

Sam

Are you running a Microtech? or standard ECM?
Had a similar problem with mine, had to send Microtech my dizzy and ECM to them to reconfig.

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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

No we used the factory ECU.
Havn't driven it yet still have to put the transfer in. Will do it over the weekend. Will probably leave the Blower off until engine is run in.
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Post by antt »

so its all go for puosu then? :armsup:
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antt wrote:so its all go for puosu then? :armsup:



;) :D
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sweet... :roll:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Took it for its first spin last night.Went really well for about 2 km then stopped rather rapidly. :oops: :oops:
Pulled rocker cover off thismorning to have a look.Some idioooot put the headgasket on backwards so there was no oil getting to the head hence the cam seized in the head. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Now it is time for a new head and cam.
Hope I get it all back together by the weekend to go to put up.
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Post by DeWsE »

I can't beleive you just admitted to that! What a great way to promote your buisness..... :rofl:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

DeWsE wrote:I can't beleive you just admitted to that! What a great way to promote your buisness..... :rofl:



If you have seen the headgasket you would see how easy a mistake it is to make and anyway no one is perfect :D
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Post by redzook »

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:Took it for its first spin last night.Went really well for about 2 km then stopped rather rapidly. :oops: :oops:
Pulled rocker cover off thismorning to have a look.Some idioooot put the headgasket on backwards so there was no oil getting to the head hence the cam seized in the head. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Now it is time for a new head and cam.
Hope I get it all back together by the weekend to go to put up.
SAM



ba ha ha ha

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Post by Damo »

DeWsE wrote:I can't beleive you just admitted to that! What a great way to promote your buisness..... :rofl:


But you can bet they'll never make that mistake again! :D
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Post by DeWsE »

Damo wrote:
DeWsE wrote:I can't beleive you just admitted to that! What a great way to promote your buisness..... :rofl:


But you can bet they'll never make that mistake again! :D


What would have happened if that was a clients car, Would they be up for head from sam?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

DeWsE wrote:
Damo wrote:
DeWsE wrote:I can't beleive you just admitted to that! What a great way to promote your buisness..... :rofl:


But you can bet they'll never make that mistake again! :D


What would have happened if that was a clients car, Would they be up for head from sam?



It was our mistake so therfore we would pay for it why should the customer pay for it. :roll:
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Post by DeWsE »

I would expect you would have taken more care with a costomers car anyway. Does this mean you will get a custom cam grind?

I had my head rebuilt and they broke a heap of other things which they didn't both telling me about so I couldn't prove they did it. eg: vac hose on the carb, they broke the metal end coming from the carby. they didn't tighten the hose clamps from the heater to the motor and a heap of other things (you know the one that is really hard to get at).......I was pissed to say the least. Sense then I have done all the work myself so it's most probably even dodgier now :armsup:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

No we will just get a standard cam. The blower doesn't need anything different.
We take as much care as we can . No body is perfect and mistakes can happen but we would take respnsibility and rectifie the situation.
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Post by DeWsE »

No you have to be perfect....otherwise I don't think I will be able to look up to you if your not!

I've said it before but your work is great!
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Post by stumped »

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:No we will just get a standard cam. The blower doesn't need anything different.
We take as much care as we can . No body is perfect and mistakes can happen but we would take respnsibility and rectifie the situation.
SAM


i'll attest to that... sam looks after his customers if something doesn't work out quite right, i know that first hand. :armsup:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

New head is on all is good drives very smooth and plenty of torque.
Going out for a run tonight to get some km on the engine before the big run to put up :D
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Post by moose »

Last nite has been & gone !!!
so how well does it go ??
did you flick the "lurve button" ON ??? :cool:

or are you rebuilding it again ?? :D
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

moose wrote:Last nite has been & gone !!!
so how well does it go ??
did you flick the "lurve button" ON ??? :cool:

or are you rebuilding it again ?? :D



Drives nice ready for put up. Now time to get some sleep :lol: :lol:
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Post by Wheeler »

When will you should be testing the engine with the blower installed???
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OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
moose wrote:Last nite has been & gone !!!
so how well does it go ??
did you flick the "lurve button" ON ??? :cool:

or are you rebuilding it again ?? :D



Drives nice ready for put up. Now time to get some sleep :lol: :lol:


Is it running already????
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Post by redzook »

Wheeler wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
moose wrote:Last nite has been & gone !!!
so how well does it go ??
did you flick the "lurve button" ON ??? :cool:

or are you rebuilding it again ?? :D



Drives nice ready for put up. Now time to get some sleep :lol: :lol:


Is it running already????


its been runnnin a while now. blower isnt on there yet
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Post by toonfish »

what box you running on this standard bolt up?
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fairly standard for now cept a mostly rebuilt motor and front diff!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

standard box bolts straight on
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Post by toonfish »

kewl
need to visualize the pics
lol :D
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Post by Wheeler »

redzook wrote:
Wheeler wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
moose wrote:Last nite has been & gone !!!
so how well does it go ??
did you flick the "lurve button" ON ??? :cool:

or are you rebuilding it again ?? :D



Drives nice ready for put up. Now time to get some sleep :lol: :lol:


Is it running already????


its been runnnin a while now. blower isnt on there yet


Got it, thanks. Pls advice results when running :cool:
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