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TRACTION CONTROLL

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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

No if one wheel is in the air and is spinning then the TC will basically applly the brake until it stops and the grounded wheel starts to drive so in an instance like that then I guess it will put close to 100% drive through the stationary wheel only for a split second though just long enough for the wheel speeds to match.
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Post by DFND90 »

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
DFND90 wrote:
cj wrote:I like to see new solutions but as with everything there are pros and cons. I see a few nice pros but what are the cons? How does it cope in deep mud or soft sand? What's it like under sustained hard use?


Im getting it fitted on the 11th and plan to do a lot of testing with the ETC turned on and off. Will post the results on OL.

I assume like all ETC that even the Haultech will rob the vehicle of momentum in slippery conditions where a bit of speed is needed like mud and sand. But i reckon in those cases just turn it off. But we will see :D

Im also wondering about the sensors becoming blocked by mud and the like, but again, we'll see eh.



Have had mine burried in mud and it still work perfectly.
As it is adj as to how quick it reacts then momentum is kept to a maximium.
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Sounds good to me :armsup: :armsup:
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Post by Barathrum »

DFND90 wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
DFND90 wrote:
cj wrote:I like to see new solutions but as with everything there are pros and cons. I see a few nice pros but what are the cons? How does it cope in deep mud or soft sand? What's it like under sustained hard use?


Im getting it fitted on the 11th and plan to do a lot of testing with the ETC turned on and off. Will post the results on OL.

I assume like all ETC that even the Haultech will rob the vehicle of momentum in slippery conditions where a bit of speed is needed like mud and sand. But i reckon in those cases just turn it off. But we will see :D

Im also wondering about the sensors becoming blocked by mud and the like, but again, we'll see eh.



Have had mine burried in mud and it still work perfectly.
As it is adj as to how quick it reacts then momentum is kept to a maximium.
SAM


Sounds good to me :armsup: :armsup:


no need to worry. my zook will always be there to pull you out when ya get stuck :D
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Post by blackmav »

blackmav wrote:i would be interested in the furure. will it have some sort of warrantee? and if it was being swapped over from one sort of vehicle to another would it share the same brake bracketry eg GQ to GU?

warrantee?? sounds great but its still alot of money
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Post by RockhamptonZOOK »

Hmmm don't want hijack this thread but traction control, why bother? :roll:
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Post by RB zook »

RockhamptonZOOK wrote:Hmmm don't want hijack this thread but traction control, why bother? :roll:



WTF u serious
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Post by DFND90 »

blackmav wrote: sounds great but its still alot of money


two airlockers unfitted cost more than Haultech ETC.
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Post by blackmav »

DFND90 wrote:
blackmav wrote: sounds great but its still alot of money


two airlockers unfitted cost more than Haultech ETC.

yeah. i realise that but you get a warrantee with an airlocker. i like the idea alot.
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Post by DFND90 »

blackmav wrote:
DFND90 wrote:
blackmav wrote: sounds great but its still alot of money


two airlockers unfitted cost more than Haultech ETC.

yeah. i realise that but you get a warrantee with an airlocker. i like the idea alot.


Where does it say there is no warranty offered??
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Post by blackmav »

DFND90 wrote:
blackmav wrote:
DFND90 wrote:
blackmav wrote: sounds great but its still alot of money


two airlockers unfitted cost more than Haultech ETC.

yeah. i realise that but you get a warrantee with an airlocker. i like the idea alot.


Where does it say there is no warranty offered??

i may be blind but does it say there is a warrantee? my best bet is they will offer some sort of warrantee. thought this was a resonable question. be it a limited warrantee or at least some good back up service ie. some help over the phone.
i have been burn't before

I don't doubt these guys or there product.

as i said i like the idea- more so than an air locker
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Post by RockhamptonZOOK »

RB zook wrote:
RockhamptonZOOK wrote:Hmmm don't want hijack this thread but traction control, why bother? :roll:



WTF u serious
Can the traction control be turned off? Hope so while your in sand.
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Post by Luigi Malone »

While I admit that money is important, and when one is short of money it takes on monumental proportions of importance. I would like to point out that one either does it or does not do it.
If one chooses to do it then Why The F&%@ not do it right?
All I ever see on boards is bitchin over the cost.
If it's too dear, then take up chess.
Ask a motocross freak what their sport costs.
A rear shock from Ohlins runs about NZ$1800.
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Post by DFND90 »

RockhamptonZOOK wrote: Can the traction control be turned off? Hope so while your in sand.


Yes. It can be turned off :D
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Post by RaginRover »

RockhamptonZOOK wrote:
RB zook wrote:
RockhamptonZOOK wrote:Hmmm don't want hijack this thread but traction control, why bother? :roll:



WTF u serious
Can the traction control be turned off? Hope so while your in sand.


Yes it can and Sand is not ususally a problem as both wheels are usually spinning. I have had it enabled on the sand on a number of trips without any problems

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Post by RaginRover »

blackmav wrote:
blackmav wrote:i would be interested in the furure. will it have some sort of warrantee? and if it was being swapped over from one sort of vehicle to another would it share the same brake bracketry eg GQ to GU?

warrantee?? sounds great but its still alot of money


How much do you reckon it cost to develop this product ? I think $2.5K both ends is cheap - I know the time an effort that went and continues to go into this product.

One of the resons that this is so much better than
factory traction control is the quality and accuracy of the components used. Most ABS sensors are useless below 6Km/h - bit useless for off road use, the sensors that run Haultech ETC probably cost 10 times more than the cost of an abs sensor and is accurate to some ridiculiously slow speed which is why can be so effective in off road/rutted/rocky terrain

I have had Haultech ETC on two rangies - first my 2 door and now on my 91 4 door for nearly 2 years without incident. My problems have been as follows,

1. Failed air compressor ( a dodgy one that I supplied $99 repco version)

Once I installed the recommeded compressor it has been as good as gold.


I think you need to consider the costs associated with a product like this, personally I think they could realistically charge $2K each end
and it would still be great value because I can run it with 245/75/16 MTRs with 10 spine rover axles - try that with a locker

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Post by DFND90 »

Rangin Rover, How about posting a detailed review to make me feel even better about getting it fitted next wknd :D :armsup:
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Post by rocknferoza »

RockhamptonZOOK wrote:Hmmm don't want hijack this thread but traction control, why bother? :roll:


There are some 4WD's on the market that you can't get diff locks for.
I can't get lockers for my feroza so what am I going 2 do 2 get maximum traction. I don't like the idea of getting my diffs welded up so the next best thing is the traction control that Sam (strange rover) and sam (overkill) are selling ;)
I've seen the Haultech traction control in action at serveral comps now and am very impressed with how it works :finger:
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Post by rocknferoza »

DFND90 wrote:Rangin Rover, How about posting a detailed review to make me feel even better about getting it fitted next wknd :D :armsup:


So has it been fitted yet DFND90 :?:
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Post by Rhett »

Why bother you say?? Couse some of us want lockers but at the same time know we are going to up grade diffs soon. You try fitting a suzi locker into a lux diff. Traction control can be swaped.
Its a wheelbase thing
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