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Prices for used 4b

Post by Nev62 »

Ok, I give up, the Raider is going :cry:

In my next life, I'm going to be a fabricator and make a squealan bucks ripping people off because I can :x

Looking at a couple of old 4b's and wanted a general idea on price and people's feeling about each. Each of the following vehicles are around the $9500 mark.

1989 MQ Patrol ST 4.2lt petrol 180,000km - stock

1987 60 series crusier 3lt desiel 280,000km - stock

1984 4 runner 2.4lt desiel 325,000km - 2" body lift (Body mounts have been relocated/welded, no blocks used), SOA, aftermarket turbo and timmer, 33" wheels, rear air diff lock - crappy interior

What say you :?: :?: :?:
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Post by aussiepaul »

go the patrol nice and strong car and has the lowest kays of the lot
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Post by -Mick- »

I assume that is meant to be GQ patrol at that age :?: If so I'd go for that ;) specially if it's a dd

I understand the frustration with the Raider and why you gave up :roll: trust me you won't regret it. Just make sure your next vehicle is well supported in the aftermarket, any of the listed ones are good :)
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Post by ludacris »

Go a GQ all the way. Steer away from leaf springs.
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Post by Nev62 »

-Mick- wrote:I assume that is meant to be GQ patrol at that age :?: If so I'd go for that ;) specially if it's a dd


Yep, sorry, it is a GQ. DD???

The reason behind suggesting the 4 Runner was because of the extra goodies (for got to add the snorkle) but like I said, the interior was shagged. If I get either the patrol or crusier, there is no money left for other goodies for at least 10 months (maybe 6 if I quit smoking and can convince the other half to do the same .... and pigs may fly too!!)
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Post by -Mick- »

dd = daily driver ;)

No rush on goodies I reckon, all in good time :) A stock patrol will go places your raider wouldn't anyway :cool:
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Post by -Mick- »

ludacris wrote: Steer away from leaf springs.


Why :?: :?
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Post by ludacris »

Shop around for a GQ with more bells and whistles althoudh it is a diesel with only 180 000. It would be worth waiting 6 to 12 months to accessories it.
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Post by high n mighty »

So sad Nev, a SAS etc and you where nearly there :cry:

Oh well, give me a buzz when you move on eh ;)
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Post by Nev62 »

high n mighty wrote:So sad Nev, a SAS etc and you where nearly there :cry:

Oh well, give me a buzz when you move on eh ;)


I just got the sh_ts with all the $$$ people want for parts and fabrications.

You can pick-up an old B2600 from the auctions that's been rolled for around $1500. Go to a wreakers and they want $1750 to $2500 just for the engine. $3500 for a rebuild.

Change the engine? "we use to make conversion kits but..."

The head is "special" cause it is 12 valve, $1000 for a rebuild of the head thanks.

Diff ratio is 4.44. The auto model is 4.88 but "not too may made mate" so $1500 just for the ring and pinion ($3000 if you want front and back), fitting is extra.

Because it is not a "real" 4WD, tends to chew CVs, $220 each for a rebuild.

Diff locks... ha, "use to make them but not any more", or "in R&D right now but should have a front next year". That's cool considering a mate has had front and rear for his Raider supplied by the same company for the last couple of years. :crazyeyes:


Same sort of story for snorkels and cargo barriers, "yeah mate they used to make them but..." :silly:

SAS, not a problem, "just give me your first born, wife, wont need cloths any more cause your not going to have any arms or legs so we will just take the shirt too. And oh, do you have a house"??! :bad-words:

It is not a great feeling being asked to "leave your car here" because it might not make the track and stuff everyone's arvo/day of play.

The time has come to move along. I don't care what I get so long as it is cheap, will take a weeks worth of my camping gear for 3, cheap for parts, supported with reasonably priced aftermarket parts and easy to fix because I'm gonna play :twisted:
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Post by J Top »

And yet another has seen the light and will be saved
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Post by Thor »

when are you going to save yourself j top? :lol:

nev. how long do you plan to keep the next one?
diesel goes for ages but you're looking at some high mileage there!
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Post by Nev62 »

Thor wrote:when are you going to save yourself j top? :lol:

nev. how long do you plan to keep the next one?
diesel goes for ages but you're looking at some high mileage there!


The finance minister has said this is it. I break it, I fix it and if it cannot be made to play harder at a reasonable price. stiff. It will be my DD although I only do 70km a day during the week (34km each way to work and the odd trip to the shops. That said, it is not the family car and there is always the train to work so... :twisted:
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Post by high n mighty »

Nev62 wrote:
high n mighty wrote:So sad Nev, a SAS etc and you where nearly there :cry:

Oh well, give me a buzz when you move on eh ;)


I just got the sh_ts with all the $$$ people want for parts and fabrications.

You can pick-up an old B2600 from the auctions that's been rolled for around $1500. Go to a wreakers and they want $1750 to $2500 just for the engine. $3500 for a rebuild.

Change the engine? "we use to make conversion kits but..."

The head is "special" cause it is 12 valve, $1000 for a rebuild of the head thanks.

Diff ratio is 4.44. The auto model is 4.88 but "not too may made mate" so $1500 just for the ring and pinion ($3000 if you want front and back), fitting is extra.

Because it is not a "real" 4WD, tends to chew CVs, $220 each for a rebuild.

Diff locks... ha, "use to make them but not any more", or "in R&D right now but should have a front next year". That's cool considering a mate has had front and rear for his Raider supplied by the same company for the last couple of years. :crazyeyes:


Same sort of story for snorkels and cargo barriers, "yeah mate they used to make them but..." :silly:

SAS, not a problem, "just give me your first born, wife, wont need cloths any more cause your not going to have any arms or legs so we will just take the shirt too. And oh, do you have a house"??! :bad-words:

It is not a great feeling being asked to "leave your car here" because it might not make the track and stuff everyone's arvo/day of play.

The time has come to move along. I don't care what I get so long as it is cheap, will take a weeks worth of my camping gear for 3, cheap for parts, supported with reasonably priced aftermarket parts and easy to fix because I'm gonna play :twisted:


Oh yeah, you be dirty :bad-words:



Fark Nev, put some nissan or yota axles under it and half ya probs are solved. Not the ideal or perfect start to a project but a start for an original one.
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Post by My Lil Lux »

There was a GQ with lots of goodies in the For Sale section for about 12,500 didn't read it that closely, but could work out cheaper than buying stock and then paying for more goodies.
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Post by Nev62 »

high n mighty wrote:Oh yeah, you be dirty :bad-words:



Fark Nev, put some nissan or yota axles under it and half ya probs are solved. Not the ideal or perfect start to a project but a start for an original one.
Just steal ya mates lockers etc


That was the plan but I can only fix, not fabricate (cocky s_it looks neater and is prob stronger then my welding). My budget is crap and thus the sub $10000 price in a replacement 4b (trade-in for the Raider plus $4000-$5000).

At present I just save for what I want/need, get it and then start saving again for the nex item.
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Post by Nev62 »

AAHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Looked at a sh!tty 85 4 Runner. Turbo 2.4 desiel, diff lock, oil all over the place, interior crapp, 290000 showing on the clock, different tyres and 3 months rego. price $8990.

So what did they offer for my 93 Raider, 2.6lt uld, no oil leaks, 261000 on the clock and 12 months rego....... $3000 (maybe $4000)

After I finished laughing, I wished the dude a nice life and walked out!
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Post by My Lil Lux »

Why not a Maverick, GQ goodness with a the ford discount sticker on it.
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Post by Nev62 »

My Lil Lux wrote:Why not a Maverick, GQ goodness with a the ford discount sticker on it.


I checked out a stock GQ today. Ramp-over was no better than a stock 2WD ute. A guy in my club also has a stock GQ and gets hungup quite often.
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Post by Utemad »

Nev62 wrote:
My Lil Lux wrote:Why not a Maverick, GQ goodness with a the ford discount sticker on it.


I checked out a stock GQ today. Ramp-over was no better than a stock 2WD ute. A guy in my club also has a stock GQ and gets hungup quite often.


Don't know about stock GQs but the stock GUs drag their rear bumpers in washouts where even my stock Rodeo doesn't. I put it down to the GUs softer springs. GU ramp over seems fine though.
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Post by DIRTY ROCK STAR »

I think for the prices for the used 4bs your quoting you are going to bend over and take it again!

shop around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you are in sydney, home of the cheap used car.

get yaself a trading post, and go hardcore!

if you cant find a lifted 4runner for 4 grand your not looking hard enough.
the 60 series i think might be going for say 6 grand.
the GQ i couldnt be sure cos its a datto, but its a big thirsty petrol so think hard about that! offer them 6000 if its not on gas!

foudn this Nissan Patrol Long Wheelbase 1991 manual, petrol, 7 seater, 4/2005 rego, very clean/tidy throughout, 12 mths warranty, $6789, ZJX-370. DL-17787. Nepean Wholesale Cars, 8am to 5pm daily, 1 Morley Avenue KINGSWOOD 0424-10 0545, .

Toyota 4Runner 1986 2.4L Turbo/diesel, air, steer, bull/tow-bar, CD, aluminium roof rack, driving lights, very good cond, rego 6/2005, $5500 neg, DP-5482 MOUNT WARRIGAL 0416-20 9208.


seems like you might be able to save yourself a few $$$ mate.
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Post by grimbo »

here you go

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27452

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