Well I had to get a sample axle to Geelong Diffs to make up the heavy duty ones as they can't find ny original broken one they were going to measure.
So ringing around the wreckers for 3.0 V6 axles they kept saying the lsd axles are different lengths and I'll need both to match. Hmmm this is at odds to what I'd been told before.........................
Anyway I managed to find a cheap pair from a 93 3.0 V6 with lsd and I can confirm they are absolutely identical in length. This now makes sense as the left hand side axle for the factory locker versions is 7mm shorter.
Grant or Ian can you confirm that the 3.5 V6 lsd axles are the same length and the locker left hand axle is also 7mm shorter ??
Frank.
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3.0 & 3.5 V6 Axle Lengths
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3.0 & 3.5 V6 Axle Lengths
I just luv my "clacker Jabber"
Hay Frank
I really think the diff place is not liking me i have rung them like 20 times in the last 4 weeks they are now saying late next week. God i am getting so sad at looking at my car on blocks.
You got a firm date from them?
I really think the diff place is not liking me i have rung them like 20 times in the last 4 weeks they are now saying late next week. God i am getting so sad at looking at my car on blocks.
You got a firm date from them?
Cut down Sierra cab on extended LWB chasie running, Hilux front and Bundy back, with a 4AGZE should be finished about umm soon. A 60 Series work truck and some go fast toys too.
No they are not the same length I got a 3.5 axle the other day to compare I'll take some pics over the weekend.
Standing vertical on the wheel studs the 3.5 axles are about 20mm taller than a 3.0 one. Thats 40mm extra width in total but my specs say both models have 1480mm rear track width ???
The bearing arrangement is a bit different but otherwise the same except for thickness and spline count.
Standing vertical on the wheel studs the 3.5 axles are about 20mm taller than a 3.0 one. Thats 40mm extra width in total but my specs say both models have 1480mm rear track width ???
The bearing arrangement is a bit different but otherwise the same except for thickness and spline count.
I just luv my "clacker Jabber"
Frank,
I just installed the 3.5l NJ factory locker that I managed to get from brisbane and I'm here to tell you that whilst the locker axel is about 7mm shorter than the LSD one, when you try to install it in the locker it sticks out about 15-20 mm.
I tried to cut the excess off the lsd axel - no matter how much you cut off the bearing flange won't mate with the housing flange, I discovered that its the root of the splines that is the real difference - the locker exel splines start much closer to the hub.
the up shot is that (in the NJ at least) you can't fit the LSD axel in the locker diff.
Ado (learning from expensive experience)
I just installed the 3.5l NJ factory locker that I managed to get from brisbane and I'm here to tell you that whilst the locker axel is about 7mm shorter than the LSD one, when you try to install it in the locker it sticks out about 15-20 mm.
I tried to cut the excess off the lsd axel - no matter how much you cut off the bearing flange won't mate with the housing flange, I discovered that its the root of the splines that is the real difference - the locker exel splines start much closer to the hub.
the up shot is that (in the NJ at least) you can't fit the LSD axel in the locker diff.
Ado (learning from expensive experience)
JK Unlimited Rubicon
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
Ian,
yeah i'm sure ...,I think the only one's that you can cut down are for the 3L diffs
The left axel arrived from brisbane today (another $200.oo plus freight) but the bloody wrecker damaged the hand brake assy when he removed it from the wreck so it wasn't a simple "slide it in" job i had remove the bearing collar, fit all my brake gear and press on a new bearing last thing I needed at 3.00 pm today (will this job ever end)
on another point - I removed the lock switch on the diff carrier to fix it and now I can't get the thing back in - it seems to have to hook in behind the pressure plate and i'll be stuffed if I can work it out!!
Was it you that said that yours was stuffed if so how do you get these suckers in
Ado
yeah i'm sure ...,I think the only one's that you can cut down are for the 3L diffs
The left axel arrived from brisbane today (another $200.oo plus freight) but the bloody wrecker damaged the hand brake assy when he removed it from the wreck so it wasn't a simple "slide it in" job i had remove the bearing collar, fit all my brake gear and press on a new bearing last thing I needed at 3.00 pm today (will this job ever end)
on another point - I removed the lock switch on the diff carrier to fix it and now I can't get the thing back in - it seems to have to hook in behind the pressure plate and i'll be stuffed if I can work it out!!
Was it you that said that yours was stuffed if so how do you get these suckers in
Ado
JK Unlimited Rubicon
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
Ok mate,
well at least we all know for sure now. Would it have helped to have the axle splines lengthened down the shaft??
yeah my switch was buggered but I got my diff guy to put the new one in when he was swapping over the crownwheel & pinion.
From memory the diaphragm has to pull the switch out to make the circuit.
Good luck.
well at least we all know for sure now. Would it have helped to have the axle splines lengthened down the shaft??
yeah my switch was buggered but I got my diff guy to put the new one in when he was swapping over the crownwheel & pinion.
From memory the diaphragm has to pull the switch out to make the circuit.
Good luck.
NL 3.5l auto with front & rear lockers,winch, custom 3.15 T/C gears
Good news for us USA GenI users - I was over at bretwalda's yesterday and took some measurements between his '95 SR 3.5L rear axle and my '89 3.0L axle and it appears that his version will swap over to the GenI without serious issues. While the measurements were not absolutely precise, the only major difference I saw was about 1/2" between outer axle flanges. You know what that means for us GenI users - factory locker and rear disk breaks!!! 
89 3.0L V6 Raider 4spd Auto "LOST ARK"
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I dont want to get on a high horse here... BUT
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=26709
I think I said many times to get the axel as well....
I fawked around for days like you have to realise I needed the axel.
Doesnt matter. As long as its sorted now.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=26709
I think I said many times to get the axel as well....
I fawked around for days like you have to realise I needed the axel.
Doesnt matter. As long as its sorted now.
09 Mitsu Evo X Mr
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09 Suzuki Swift
09 VW 190kw Tiguan
Just fitted a 3.5 rear to my 3.0 J Top plus I had a pair of loose 33.5 mm axles.
The diff assy bolts straight in but the driveshaft flange and bolt pattern are a lot bigger on the 3.5.I removed both pinion flanges to see if they would swap over.
3.0 pinion spline 27.2 mm
3.5 pinion spline 29.37 mm
I dont have the SWB 3.5 driveshaft to try in my transfer but going by everything else I suspect the output spline will be larger.
3.0 litre locker axle #s
L/H 61 length from mounting flange to end of spline 620mm
R/H 62 unfortunately snapped so no length
3.5 litre locker axle #s
L/H 57 length 602mm
R/H 58 length 675mm
3.5 litre loose axle #s {LSD}?
L/H 55 length 616mm
R/H 6 length 663mm
By the way Ado
All 4 of the 3.5 axles fitted in both left and right sides of the 3.5 locker
J Top
The diff assy bolts straight in but the driveshaft flange and bolt pattern are a lot bigger on the 3.5.I removed both pinion flanges to see if they would swap over.
3.0 pinion spline 27.2 mm
3.5 pinion spline 29.37 mm
I dont have the SWB 3.5 driveshaft to try in my transfer but going by everything else I suspect the output spline will be larger.
3.0 litre locker axle #s
L/H 61 length from mounting flange to end of spline 620mm
R/H 62 unfortunately snapped so no length
3.5 litre locker axle #s
L/H 57 length 602mm
R/H 58 length 675mm
3.5 litre loose axle #s {LSD}?
L/H 55 length 616mm
R/H 6 length 663mm
By the way Ado
All 4 of the 3.5 axles fitted in both left and right sides of the 3.5 locker
J Top
Jtop
I'm sure they fit into the locker - so did mine, but definately won't bolt up to the housing flange not in my NJ at least the standard LSD axle is way to long
the NJ has dual bearings on the axel may be that has something to do with it
Ado
I'm sure they fit into the locker - so did mine, but definately won't bolt up to the housing flange not in my NJ at least the standard LSD axle is way to long
the NJ has dual bearings on the axel may be that has something to do with it
Ado
JK Unlimited Rubicon
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
2" lift
Dual locked, 1:4 crawler gears, swaybar disconnect
Stock and loving it
Mods to come
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