engine dilemma

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:40 am

I'm in dire need of a new power plant for the lwb and wondering what people might do in my situation

I had planned an engine conversion from day one but with the motor the way it is now its a need more than a want :lol:

I work 7 days a week so won't be doing it myself. Mud4b of suziworx is keen to do it though :cool:

Mud had some jimny 1.3 efi import front cuts coming which seemed perfect but they never showed :cry:

So now I don't know what to put in it

Vit conversion is great but front cuts are so rare now they are stupidly priced :roll:

The 4age is cool but since its all custom and he's never done one before Mud isn't real keen to try it fair enough

Mud4b does keep talking up the capp 600cc turbo but I'm afraid that the extra weight of a lwb + the fact I'm not removing any weight will mean it goes like crap

What other options are there in reality :?:

I need something powerful and torquey, 1600cc or less, efi, able to be a reliable dd and loaded to the balls for camping. Not too worried about revvy motors cause I have rockhoppers.

What diesels do people put in :?:

I'm just wondering what's out there cause the common avenues are kaput :lol:

Thanks

Post by **Santos** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:36 am

Suzuki K10A DOHC turbo instead of the cap, it supposed to be around 74kw and found in Wagon R and top model jimny in japan

just something ppl may have lieing around

Post by **nicbeer** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:49 pm

Have ya looked at the CA18 and the SR20 from nissan.

cheers

Post by **I.M.P.O.S.E** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:24 pm

-Mick- wrote:Vit conversion is great but front cuts are so rare now they are stupidly priced

Whats stupidly priced???? Forgive me im not a suzuki owner! there was a front cut in yestis trado for 1200!

Just trying to help out!
Cheers
Lucas

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:31 pm

put me onto this frontcut IMPOSE :!:

I'm talkin 2500 - 3000

nicbeer gotta be 1600 or less up here for legal reasons bro

Post by **grimbo** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:43 pm

Greg's 660cc goes pretty hard. It drives the 34s with no dramas even being able to hit decent highway speeds. Also the lighter weight of the engine makes up for the extra weight in the lwb. Also the blow off from the turbo is pretty cool :cool:

Post by **stumped** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:49 pm

grimbo wrote:Greg's 660cc goes pretty hard. It drives the 34s with no dramas even being able to hit decent highway speeds. Also the lighter weight of the engine makes up for the extra weight in the lwb. Also the blow off from the turbo is pretty cool

sounds sweet, but didn't greg have drama's with trying to get it engineered? dunno what u wanna do mick, but if ya want a DD i'm guessing that road legal is a good idea. i think greg's issues were emissions stuff???? i know there's heaps of stuff, prolly in greg's buildup thread

Post by **grimbo** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:59 pm

stumped wrote:
grimbo wrote:Greg's 660cc goes pretty hard. It drives the 34s with no dramas even being able to hit decent highway speeds. Also the lighter weight of the engine makes up for the extra weight in the lwb. Also the blow off from the turbo is pretty cool

sounds sweet, but didn't greg have drama's with trying to get it engineered? dunno what u wanna do mick, but if ya want a DD i'm guessing that road legal is a good idea. i think greg's issues were emissions stuff???? i know there's heaps of stuff, prolly in greg's buildup thread

don't know I think he was just a sooky lala

he was also a bit worried about a few other things too. Different states will require different things for mods as we all know so it is definetely worth having a look into

Post by **nicbeer** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:26 pm

Try the nissan motors in the pulsars maybe. I think the CA16 is the same bolt on as the CA18 so the silvia gbox should work for you.

Try these guys

http://www.japparts.com.au/products/gearboxes.html

These have it in stock.

I also found a G13B auto gbox on there for $110 ?? I believe Christover was looking for one of these.

cheers

Post by **bigsteve** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:26 pm

Go a g13bb + auto

Post by **runnin4life** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:35 pm

or a small block v8 lol jk's. there is only one sierra i have seen that had a v8 and was still 4wd

Post by **HRZOOK** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:35 pm

Are the VW turbo diesels a possibility in OZ?

Would be :cool:

HRZOOK

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:34 pm

bigsteve wrote:Go a g13bb + auto

That was the orig intention dood but the cuts never showed :cry:

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:35 pm

Thanks for all the other advice guys I'm checking out some stuff.

Keep the suggestions coming though for sure

Anyone done diesel or know good diesels for such an application :?:

Post by **Rotazuk** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:45 pm

Hi
I have a samerai with a toyota 2ct in it . thats a 2lt turbo diesel out of a van . I brought it this was so can't coment on how hard it was to fit but it does . has a t50 gearbox behind it mated to the zuk t/case . Heaps of grunt , a bit noisey at high speed thout , needs gearing up a bit .

Chris

Post by **-Mick-** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:55 pm

rotazuk you can't get any pics of that can ya :?:

sounds interesting

Post by **nicbeer** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:57 pm

Mud4B was going to do this and found it legal I think.

There is a 550 with gbox for sale $1000 at suzishop at moment. (in sierra forum)

cheers

Post by **built4thrashing** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:26 pm

i have seen a LWB with a hyundai exel EFI 1.5 in it. went pretty good. these are as cheap as to buy from a wreckers and ya should be able to bolt a suzi box to it.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:32 pm

I didnt think you could just bolt in an east west engine? there are parts that have to be changed over. correct me if im wrong.

Post by **Drew** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:04 am

Rotazuk, like the diesel idea.
Just wondering if the t50 is a bolt up behind the 2ct or do you have an adapter/custom bellhousing ? as i have access to a 2ct was considering something different.
thanks

Post by **Rainbow Warrior** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:08 am

A mate had a 1.8 Izuzu turbo diesel from a Gemini, went well. Had transfer case strength issues though.

Post by **Mudzuki** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:12 pm

The cap motor goes plenty hard in gregs car. Im trying to track down some emmissions info on these, but nobody wants to share. :cry:

Post by **Santos** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:03 pm

How about a m15a engine.... i believe it was the late model swift and ignis. also in holden cruze?

Post by **-Mick-** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:45 am

This is good

Keep em coming :cool:

I'm lovin the turbo diesel idea at the moment :armsup:

Post by **-Mick-** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:49 am

Alright not having had much to do with oil burners before and knowing squat about them can someone tell me what would be required to perform the 2ct conversion.

2ct Engine
t50 box
...............

Wiring etc :?:

Would you want a whole donor car :?:

Post by **Rotazuk** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:35 pm

There is not much wiring to get it going , just the alt and starter as any other car . A diesel is stoped by killing the fuel so instead of ing to the coil it goes to a fuel shut off valve . Mine has a turbo timer on it and a glow plug timer . It does not start without the glow plugs when cold but sweet as once warmed up a bit .

Off the donor you may want that timer , or buy aftermarker , and the tach pickup . Since there is no points there is no trigger for the tach . I don't have one wired up , anoys the hell out of me , but get the sensor of the donor car to wire up . Its a trigger sometimes off the injector pump pulley I think .

Someone with more knowledge will be able to give you more info .

Cheers
Chris

Post by **mud4b** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:25 pm

I AM APPROVED TO FIT A 2CT INTO A ZOOK.

you can use the toyota 2 wheel drive gearbox behind it ..its about 50mm longer than a sierra....

you can wire the tacho through the alternator.it does need to be moded...

how did you go with the brake booster?

Post by **-Mick-** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:51 pm

Mud what was I doin with a brake booster :lol:

or was that someone else :?:

If I can find a good 2ct and t50 etc I'm gonna go dis route

Time to go shopping :cool:

Post by **Damo** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:28 pm

-Mick- wrote:Mud what was I doin with a brake booster or was that someone else

If I can find a good 2ct and t50 etc I'm gonna go dis route Time to go shopping

Kewl man! Diesels are phat

Post by **Santos** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:30 pm

Damo wrote:
-Mick- wrote:Mud what was I doin with a brake booster or was that someone else

If I can find a good 2ct and t50 etc I'm gonna go dis route Time to go shopping

Kewl man! Diesels are phat

Be a hippy, go Bio.

(of course bio can be tailored to go hard.
yes, i'm talking about diesel)

Brazilian<--- Very savvy on fine tuned Alcohol and Bio-Diesel
(My suzuki will soon run on tequila)â‚¬

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