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Wide track rear.

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Wide track rear.

Post by ToNkA »

I may be getting a wide track rear hilux axle housing and ascociated stuff.

My question is, how much wider is it?

and........ If I run a wider track rear, do I need to do anything to the front to match it, or can I just leave it.

I dont want to run wheel spacers at the front etc......

Any info appreciated....
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Post by RUFF »

3 inches wider and it will be fine without any mods to the front.
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Post by NICK »

widen the front with IFS hubs, it may work out to be alittle pricey but it avoids the use of wheel spacers and looks alot more factory.


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Post by ToNkA »

Ok, sounds good, whats the deal with IFS hubs, can you go into more detail for me?
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Post by beebee »

The front is pretty pricey!
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Post by ToNkA »

ok its pricey, someone want to explain what you do to the front?

Does anyone just leave the front stock, or does everyone use spacers?
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Post by MissDrew »

I am just running spacers all round and still have the wider housing I got (with axles) for $150.00 sitting in the shed :roll:
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Post by beebee »

I got a quote today of $125 for an IFS model hilux rear. :lol: Just hope there is one in stock. :cry:
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Post by beebee »

No brakes, diff etc, just housing and axles. Not bad eh!?
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Post by MissDrew »

Was that with axles? As alot of places try to sell em without.
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Post by ToNkA »

ToNkA wrote:ok its pricey, someone want to explain what you do to the front?



Just to reitterate.....

Whats the go with the IFS front hub conversion........???
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Post by MissDrew »

Doh!!!!!!!!!

Thats good, Mine was with brakes, not that I want or need them as I have disks :D
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Post by beebee »

I WANT DISKS! :x :lol:
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Post by RUFF »

Tonka the front will be fine as it is.I run my front stock.As the ifs hub swap will cost you around the $500 mark without even buying the hubs,thats just for the adapters to run them.
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beebee wrote:The front is pretty pricey!

Told ya
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Post by moose »

when fitting the wider track rear , does it go striaght onto the narrow diff springs , or do they have to be reworked to suit !???? :?
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Post by MissDrew »

Bolts in.

Not 100% shore but the plate on the bottom MIGHT be a little different. Ruff?
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Post by beebee »

Yes it goes straight in. Although I'm yet to do it, I'm sure about this. What I don't know about is the handbrake cable and whether the bracket is in the same place and what you do about the increased width of the housing?
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Post by MissDrew »

You either lengthen the cable or get a new one
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Post by RUFF »

As long as you use a leafsprung rear axle they bolt straight in to all models.Obviously the coil sprung 4runner rear housing wont bolt in.

Tonka here is a link to a company in the us that sell a kit.
http://www.frontrangeoffroadfab.com/wide.htm
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Post by bubs »

RUFF wrote:As long as you use a leafsprung rear axle they bolt straight in to all models.Obviously the coil sprung 4runner rear housing wont bolt in.

Tonka here is a link to a company in the us that sell a kit.
http://www.frontrangeoffroadfab.com/wide.htm


or in australia talk to richard @ 4x4 engineering $650 including hubs for both sides
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Post by moose »

even ferozas????????
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moose wrote:even ferozas????????


only ones on hilux/4 runner suspension 8)
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KOOL !! it is !! :wink:
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Post by bubs »

You might be able to run the wider hubs on a stock rocky front - i think they are almost the same as a hilux :?:
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Post by hophoar »

Hey Bubs, how much with out the hubs? have you got Richards number?
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Post by cbr »

Bolt's straight in.

When I did mine you also need the shackle plate that is used with the u-bolts from the later model axle. It seems the IFS model axle is slightly bigger in diameter. If you are doing a u-bolt reversal then it does not matter.

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Post by RUFF »

Sorry Chris is right depending on what model you have.'88 on will have the wider housing anyway but the earlier models need the ubolts and plates. This also depends on what model wide housing you use. If its from an early 4runner it will bolt straight in as the tubes are the same size.
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Post by beebee »

Ruff,
don't the 4 runners use a drum with a larger center hole compared to the hilux? By the way, Richard's price on the IFS front hub conversion is $440 per side with new bearings and stuff. Bolt on basically. Phone # 07 3344 1181
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Post by RUFF »

Yes all wide track rears use a larger centre hole in the drum so make sure that you get all the brakes and drums.Sorry i prob should have mentioned this earlier.

Trust me i will not be doing a spacer conversion on mine :shock:
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