winch ropes !

Post by **familybus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:02 pm

ok this is what i want for my warn m8000! and this is the best i come up with! https://peakempire.com/store/product_in ... 12deeba812

Post by **up2nogood** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:04 pm

Sounds like a plan. I also asked Tiny to see what he can do locally on the Dyneema rope.

I need:
100' of 3/8" dia Amsteel with all fittings and 10' abrasion guard.
50' 3/8" winch extension with fittings each end.
Viking Thermo hawse fairlead.

All for use on an XD9 Warn.

Post by **familybus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:29 pm

to make it easy then i could go same as that on mine it should fit i think! in the 5/16 ive heard blokes say they wish theyd bought 125" instead of 100" so ill see how we go with 100" of 3/8 stuff

Post by **up2nogood** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:05 pm

The 3/8" is rated at 20,400lbs and the 5/16" is rated at 13,700lbs.

Reckon you ought to check on the Rockstomper site for the correct size and rate for your M8000.

They have listed:
Warn M8 5/16x100 or 3/8x80

Post by **familybus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:25 am

yep but theres always extra room with the rope! if not i can cut it and use it as an extension

Post by **Tiny** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:31 am

guys, I have been selling the rope as it comes, or splice each end, and am getting prices now on the abrasion sock etc now. I can put a thimble in, but most people dont use thimbles as they can cut the rope....PM me if you want the thimble

Post by **familybus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:49 pm

no offence tiny! but we tryi8n to help eachother save a few bucs. the price you pmd me a bit more than its worth dude :lol:

Post by **blkmav** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:58 pm

landy_man wrote:my reply from them was that over time the thimble splits and damages the rope... he also said most EUROC guys dont run the timble anymore for this reason

Interesting, I guess they were not using the correct thimble. There are thimbles for wire rope and thimbles for synthetic rope. Synthetic thimbles have higher sides and are a smoother finish to protect ropes from chafing and or cutting. These are used heavily in the marine and rigging industry.

Post by **familybus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:09 pm

ok ive orderd 30 meters of 9mm steel cable rated at 5 tonne breaking strain and its gona cost me $90! it comes with an eyelet one end for the winch drum connect and a loop on the other for the hook! by the time we sort something out to get some rope and it gets here i might need to use my winch! so this will do untill we get it here! anyone want one? let me know. no stuffin about and no profit for me, what i pay is what you pay! f@#k payin someone there rediculous markup on something they got for half the price! ive found that when someone gets a hold of something thats hard to get here in OZ! some people just go nuts and treat it like its gold laced rope or such! but anyway i supose its human nature nowdays to try and rort another battler for as much as he can! (no offence but yes that was directed at the two f@#kwits that pmd me tellin me basicly to pay what they ask or go without) stick it up yah coit clowns, and to the other gen uine people who tried to sorce or offerd me rope at rsonable price! thanks for that.

Post by **robbie** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:17 pm

where did you buy it from?

Post by **familybus** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:22 pm

i bought it from a place down here in sydney! i got it through a mate but there willing to make more of them up for me cause i told em a little white lie

and said ive got a few company vehicles i want to change cables on! :lol:

Post by **Hoonz** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:03 pm

white lies is what ruins it for the rest of us

Post by **Davidh** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:08 pm

white lies is what ruins it for the rest of us

Lies make baby jesus cry.

But seriously, if you can name a good supplier of quality winch cable at a price better than the typical 4wd shops, then speak up!
My cable is stuffed!

Post by **MKPatrolGuy** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:39 pm

Davidh wrote:
white lies is what ruins it for the rest of us

Lies make baby jesus cry.

But seriously, if you can name a good supplier of quality winch cable at a price better than the typical 4wd shops, then speak up!
My cable is stuffed!

Keebles Trading in Montrose/Kilsyth or Dandenong

Post by **familybus** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:25 am

how does it ruin it for the rest of you? dont you mean it ruins it for the people who want to rip off other blokes who cant acces shit from overseas as easly as them? im changing cables on three of my vehicles and can supply it cheap for others too! is that such a bad thing? or is it people with comments like yours that ruin other blokes chances of gettin a good deal? think about it! with all due respect if you dont like what you read why be the type to try and throw a spanner in the works? your as bad as the people who want to rip people off and charge them like a bull at a red rag! fair dinkum dude!

Post by **Hoonz** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:15 am

im not throwing a spanner in the works ..and saying im as bad as the
people tryin to rip every one off is a big statement ... STFU NOOB

i don't care about going around the people selling it at stupidly marked up prices ... up here i can get it at prolly 1/4 the price of a winch rope supplied my company X ... company x should also realise that sellin bulk cheaply will keep the customers back and get the same profit. steel cable is cheap and the other compay X should realise this and try and be competitive with it.

i bought it from a place down here in sydney! i got it through a mate but there willing to make more of them up for me cause i told em a little white lie and said ive got a few company vehicles i want to change cables on!

this part here .. why didn't u just say you have x amount of people interested in your products can we do a bulk buy...

we all go through winch ropesfairly often in our game ... what if they find out u don't have a company! then they go screw u guys ... markup ... every one knows every one in this game .. word gets around quickly

i'll do anything to save a buck building my 4wd up and keeping it maintained ... but i don't go talkin it up to get things cheap
yes i am fair dinkum be professional about it and keep the rewards

Post by **RUFF** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:40 am

$90 is not cheap anyway.

And if you didnt like the price another Forum member offered you there is no reason to come back here and slander him/her publicly. Another outburst and you can go else where to try and find a good deal.

Post by **Tiny** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:32 am

Ok so prices are as follows

All in 50m increments with spliced loop one end, lug the other for the winch and abbrasion gaurd, all prices + gst please

8mm $500.00 + freight 6.6t

10mm $570.00 + freight 8.5t

10mm double braid $450.00 + freight 6.2t

Oh and anyone want to bitch aboput that price, retail for 10mm single braid ($570 one) is close to $800.00

At the end of the day we may love what we do, but we dont do it for love, we are inbussiness and have to make a $ to live and play :lol:

Post by **Tiny** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:00 am

and I forgot $44.00 inc gst for 4.5t hook with clip, thimble is free if ya want one spliced on

Post by **familybus** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:58 am

Hoonz wrote:we all go through winch ropesfairly often in our game ... what if they find out u don't have a company! then they go screw u guys ... markup ... every one knows every one in this game .. word gets around quickly

I do have my own company wich consists of seven vehicles! the white lie being that im only changing cable on three of those! so ok shoot me for it.
and also ruff i didnt mention any names or details about anyone publicly! some people should just stay off the bandwagon!

Post by **wannaberacer** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:01 am

familybus wrote: f@#k payin someone there rediculous markup on something they got for half the price! ive found that when someone gets a hold of something thats hard to get here in OZ! some people just go nuts and treat it like its gold laced rope or such! but anyway i supose its human nature nowdays to try and rort another battler for as much as he can! (no offence but yes that was directed at the two f@#kwits that pmd me tellin me basicly to pay what they ask or go without) stick it up yah coit clowns, and to the other gen uine people who tried to sorce or offerd me rope at rsonable price! thanks for that.

Mate if you're sick of guys trying to supposedly rip you off with over inflated prices...perhaps you had better move to another planet. Everything you buy every day has markups from 0% to well over 100%. Its a fact of life and it is how people make money in their business. If everyone was so gracious as to sell product at cost price....no business would exist!

Post by **adam.s** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:43 am

wannaberacer wrote:
familybus wrote: f@#k payin someone there rediculous markup on something they got for half the price! ive found that when someone gets a hold of something thats hard to get here in OZ! some people just go nuts and treat it like its gold laced rope or such! but anyway i supose its human nature nowdays to try and rort another battler for as much as he can! (no offence but yes that was directed at the two f@#kwits that pmd me tellin me basicly to pay what they ask or go without) stick it up yah coit clowns, and to the other gen uine people who tried to sorce or offerd me rope at rsonable price! thanks for that.

Mate if you're sick of guys trying to supposedly rip you off with over inflated prices...perhaps you had better move to another planet. Everything you buy every day has markups from 0% to well over 100%. Its a fact of life and it is how people make money in their business. If everyone was so gracious as to sell product at cost price....no business would exist!

This is true.

However, the "nicer" retailers tend to make their money once per order, rather then one per product.

I don't have a problem with people making money, but I don't like it when people are greedy and try to rip you a new anus hole.

Post by **bogged** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:46 am

10,000lb warn,
what is the right cable for this winch? My wire could do with replacing...

I've googled, without much success, is there a page that shows what plama/dyeema/etc should go with what winch?

I have Cable 38m x 9.5mm dia. but this is cable, whats the diff with plasma?

Post by **wannaberacer** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:50 am

Try http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm down towards the bottom

Post by **blkmav** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:53 am

bogged wrote:10,000lb warn,
what is the right cable for this winch? My wire could do with replacing...

I've googled, without much success, is there a page that shows what plama/dyeema/etc should go with what winch?

I have Cable 38m x 9.5mm dia. but this is cable, whats the diff with plasma?

I'd go up a size as I bought the recommended size and I could fit more on once I spooled the rope on under load. You can always cut the crimp off the end and recrimp if it's too long. I bought the 100' and am about to buy the 130'.

Post by **Tiny** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:10 am

Bruce,

I work of this, hope it helps

Post by **bogged** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:24 am

Called ARB kilsyth.

Recommended 11mm on 10k winch
10k warn he said to go with 35mtrs (to fill drum)or upto 45mtrs (before it starts binding) on winch. 40mtrs happy medium.
price $15.50 a mtr.

so for 40mtrs $620

ARB dude said either a 'the flat battery terminal type mount' to bolt on, or to use a slip knot on the drum. then you can spin the cable round and use other end if need be, also wont pull off if you get to end of cable by mistake.

Post by **Tiny** » Thu May 12, 2005 11:28 am

bogged wrote:Called ARB kilsyth.

Recommended 11mm on 10k winch
10k warn he said to go with 35mtrs (to fill drum)or upto 45mtrs (before it starts binding) on winch. 40mtrs happy medium.
price $15.50 a mtr.

so for 40mtrs $620

ARB dude said either a 'the flat battery terminal type mount' to bolt on, or to use a slip knot on the drum. then you can spin the cable round and use other end if need be, also wont pull off if you get to end of cable by mistake.

will get you a price this evening on 40 metres with the lug, abrasion resistent cover for two meters, and spliced, do you want a hook spliced on and do you want thimble? I suggest no thimble and use a shackle but PM me exactly what you want, I will be cheaper delivered to you door :armsup:

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:48 pm

familybus wrote:ok ive orderd 30 meters of 9mm steel cable rated at 5 tonne breaking strain and its gona cost me $90! it comes with an eyelet one end for the winch drum connect and a loop on the other for the hook! by the time we sort something out to get some rope and it gets here i might need to use my winch! so this will do untill we get it here! anyone want one? let me know. no stuffin about and no profit for me, what i pay is what you pay! f@#k payin someone there rediculous markup on something they got for half the price! ive found that when someone gets a hold of something thats hard to get here in OZ! some people just go nuts and treat it like its gold laced rope or such! but anyway i supose its human nature nowdays to try and rort another battler for as much as he can! (no offence but yes that was directed at the two f@#kwits that pmd me tellin me basicly to pay what they ask or go without) stick it up yah coit clowns, and to the other gen uine people who tried to sorce or offerd me rope at rsonable price! thanks for that.

is that price for plasma rope? if so that would explain the high price

Post by **Tiny** » Thu May 12, 2005 12:53 pm

GRINCH wrote:
familybus wrote:ok ive orderd 30 meters of 9mm steel cable rated at 5 tonne breaking strain and its gona cost me $90! it comes with an eyelet one end for the winch drum connect and a loop on the other for the hook! by the time we sort something out to get some rope and it gets here i might need to use my winch! so this will do untill we get it here! anyone want one? let me know. no stuffin about and no profit for me, what i pay is what you pay! f@#k payin someone there rediculous markup on something they got for half the price! ive found that when someone gets a hold of something thats hard to get here in OZ! some people just go nuts and treat it like its gold laced rope or such! but anyway i supose its human nature nowdays to try and rort another battler for as much as he can! (no offence but yes that was directed at the two f@#kwits that pmd me tellin me basicly to pay what they ask or go without) stick it up yah coit clowns, and to the other gen uine people who tried to sorce or offerd me rope at rsonable price! thanks for that.

is that price for plasma rope? if so that would explain the high price

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