michelin tyres

Post by **CRUSHU** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:38 pm

i am looking for some big truck tyres, around 44 - 50". i see the xml's were fitted to the f250 in the four wheeler magazine.

i also notice every other us built rig, runs the other michelin, with a boomerang tread. what are they called? what is the better mud tyre? where can i get some? thanks

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:20 pm

The boomerang type tread is the XL (? used to remember all this nerdy stuff), and I believe this is basically a superceded tyre. I believe that they are popular inthe US because there were a large number of used ex army ones available. I think that USA 6X6 and for a while Avalance engineering had them pretty cheap.

They have less tread depth than the XML and are obviously directional.

I knew of two hiluxes that ran this type of tyre, one was running XL's, the other XS (nearly identical but optimised for snow/sand use) and they were always considered 20K carcasses - and apparently at sped you could pretty much watch the rubber coming off them.

Post by **CRUSHU** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:32 pm

what is preferable for mud use??

Post by **tracks** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:34 pm

Give Total Tyres a call in Oakleigh, I overheard the salesman there bagging Mich. tyres saying quality has gone down hill and they are putting out a inferior product..

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:42 pm

CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??

Tractor tyres

Post by **CRUSHU** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:45 pm

ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??

Tractor tyres

gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:49 pm

CRUSHU wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??

Tractor tyres

gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.

How can 44-50" tyres be street legal??? - only if they are going on a unimog???

Post by **CRUSHU** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:57 pm

ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:what is preferable for mud use??

Tractor tyres

gotta be streetable. these will be my only street legal tyres.

How can 44-50" tyres be street legal??? - only if they are going on a unimog???

being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.
being only 15 - 18" wide, they are skinny enough, and should sit inside my flares. so that will be legal as well. my swampers are completely illegal.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:02 pm

CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.
being only 15 - 18" wide, they are skinny enough, and should sit inside my flares. so that will be legal as well. my swampers are completely illegal.

They may be speed rated within the guards and road legal, but all that is irrelevant if they are completely illagal for the vehicle. So why bother about speed rating or within the guards, a cop would still give you a defect notice as soon as they see the truck.

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:12 pm

But all that aside, if you want to find michelin tyres currently available new (in the US at least).

go here:

http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... lector.jsp

Select the size you would like. Then ALL POSITION, then Off-Road/Military then see if anything is available.

Hope you have deep pockets (and are sitting down) when you get a price.

XZL
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... L+%28wb%29
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... L+%28wb%29
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL

XS (XML is no longer made)
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... p?tread=XS
http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... p?tread=XS

Post by **CRUSHU** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:06 am

i was hoping for ex army surplus tyres..... not new.

Post by **CRUSHU** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:19 pm

no one know where i can find some surplus tyres? probably looking for xzl, 365/85 x 20 or 395/85 x 20.

Post by **turps** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:05 am

CRUSHU wrote:i was hoping for ex army surplus tyres..... not new.

I dont know where they are disposing of them. But the army is changing all there semi-bar tread type tyres to a different micheln tread pattern (perviaous pattern was like a very large simex JT 1). These will most likly suck on road though.

Post by **Webbie** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:55 am

A mate is getting a set of these new for $1200 for his new project truck :cool:

gunna put em on header rims $20 each .320 a corner is awsome for tyre and rims 38'' :lol:

Post by **CRUSHU** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:24 am

i was looking for bigger, but maybe the supplier has bigger ones? also what is a header rim??

Post by **Eddy** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:32 am

What vehicle you putting them on crushu??

"Header" rims are probably just rims built for agricultural machinery is my guess.

have a look at truck wreckers.......several advertising in "trader" mags.
usually have army surplus stuff at pretty good prices.

Post by **CRUSHU** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:39 pm

blown F150, 12 inch lift

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:53 pm

gtwebbie wrote:A mate is getting a set of these new for $1200 for his new project truck gunna put em on header rims $20 each .320 a corner is awsome for tyre and rims 38''

Which tyre exactly and where from?

Post by **RoldIT** » Fri May 13, 2005 9:56 pm

http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintr ... ?tread=XZL

EDIT: :oops:

Sorry, just noticed this link was already in another post up top.

Post by **Webbie** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:55 pm

XML's and can't say were, as mums the word

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:37 pm

gtwebbie wrote:XML's and can't say were, as mums the word

Can your mate get more for the same price? If so PM me. I thought the XML's were no longer available?

Post by **Bush65** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:11 am

CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.

When I looked at the smaller Michelins (around 38"), their speed rating was below the minimum for a passenger vehicle.

From memory the tyre speed rating was about 110 km/h but minumum allowed was about 140 km/h. Dont quote me on those figures, but it was the situation.

I did not investigate, whether an approved engineer can re-rate the speed rating of a tyre because the actual load is far less than the rated load (logically this should be the case).

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Sat May 14, 2005 7:42 pm

Bush65 wrote:
CRUSHU wrote:being speed rated, they are legal to be on the road.

When I looked at the smaller Michelins (around 38"), their speed rating was below the minimum for a passenger vehicle.

From memory the tyre speed rating was about 110 km/h but minumum allowed was about 140 km/h. Dont quote me on those figures, but it was the situation.

I did not investigate, whether an approved engineer can re-rate the speed rating of a tyre because the actual load is far less than the rated load (logically this should be the case).

Should be fine for a series Land Rover!!! I think the factory tyres were only speed rated to 110.

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