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F****d flange.

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F****d flange.

Post by Pat Murray »

Hi all. I found an unusual fault recently on my '87 NT 1.3. Whilst checking the unis for wear I discovered that the rear pinion flange was loose and the seal was just starting to weep. Bought all the bits to overhaul the diff., thinking it definitely didn't owe me anything in kilometers, and pulled it to begin dismantling. Surprise,surprise, the spline was slogged out.The nut had not loosened in any way. The seal had cut a furrow in the outside of the flange spline as the problem worsened. Fitted another flange and seal and new nut and all is now O.K. I can only assume that 5.14s, a Lock Right and Centipedes have put a lot of stress on that part of the diff. The rest of the diff. is perfect! We live and learn,eh?
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Post by alien »

1) got a pic?

2) what size tyre are you running with the 5.14's? surely must be larger than a 31" to do diff damage =)
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Post by Pat Murray »

No, I don't have a pic Alien. I am running 32s. Amazing how much less backlash there is to deal with now. You get used to driving to suit Lock Rights anyway and as the extra lash crept in I was just driving around the problem. As ya do!
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Post by alien »

flexy! =)

dont mean to hijack but what suspension is it running to flex like that? surely not just SPOA?
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Post by Pat Murray »

My suspension is SPUA,thank you. In Tasmania ,side angles are a fact of life and SPOA is not really an option. Thus, one does the best one can with SPUA. FYI, 2" body lift, 30mm. longer shackles. Kings Springs long travel leaves,(SUZ 002 front, SUZ 006 rear)Gabriel LT gas shocks, Climax shackles at the rear and the sucker works!!
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Post by derelict_frog »

What tyres are they?

Look nice and chunky.... sorta thing i want...
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Post by alien »

im impressed!!!
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Post by Red_Zook »

Pat my friend how u go with that blown diff of mine u steel bits or what?? any good??
how are my x-case gears?
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Post by derelict_frog »

Where do u guys go?

Some on the zooks on that dodgy site look cool, but i have only seen 1 of them driving around.


Any other way to find out what future trips u guys have planned?, can other people come along now and then?
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Post by Pat Murray »

Well, we've just had an excellent weekend with the Devonport Club and we ocasionally do a west Coast weekend and otherwise all over the place.And some of those Zooks on "that dodgy site" are s**tboxes" so not everything is rosy in the garden!
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Post by derelict_frog »

Fair enough lol, where did u go this weekend?

Got ne pics or vids???
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Post by Pat Murray »

Saturday was Abey's Road inland from Sassafras, and other tracks close to Sassafras, including parts of the old original VDL Road. Sunday we reopened a track down to Lake Cethana overlooking Lorinna. All the rain came at the right time for us. It was wet,wet,wet!
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Post by derelict_frog »

Sounds kool, i havent been newhere near that area, but still sounds nice.

Your suzuki is set up real nice too.







BTW where did u get your tyres from and how much? (If u dont mind...)
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Re: F****d flange.

Post by ljxtreem »

Pat Murray wrote:Hi all. I found an unusual fault recently on my '87 NT 1.3. Whilst checking the unis for wear I discovered that the rear pinion flange was loose and the seal was just starting to weep. Bought all the bits to overhaul the diff., thinking it definitely didn't owe me anything in kilometers, and pulled it to begin dismantling. Surprise,surprise, the spline was slogged out.The nut had not loosened in any way. The seal had cut a furrow in the outside of the flange spline as the problem worsened. Fitted another flange and seal and new nut and all is now O.K. I can only assume that 5.14s, a Lock Right and Centipedes have put a lot of stress on that part of the diff. The rest of the diff. is perfect! We live and learn,eh?
whats your pinion angle like?

SPOA, axel wrap and a stuffed uni could all cause this.

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Post by nicbeer »

Pat Murray wrote:My suspension is SPUA,thank you. In Tasmania ,side angles are a fact of life and SPOA is not really an option. Thus, one does the best one can with SPUA. FYI, 2" body lift, 30mm. longer shackles. Kings Springs long travel leaves,(SUZ 002 front, SUZ 006 rear)Gabriel LT gas shocks, Climax shackles at the rear and the sucker works!!
Mock - as above. SPUA :)
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Post by ljxtreem »

Sorry diddnt read the bit where you said you are SPUA,
Climax shackles will cause axel wrap :?
Iv seen it on my mates sierra, way rooted the rear springs, and he was SPUA.

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Post by ljxtreem »

nicbeer wrote:
Pat Murray wrote:My suspension is SPUA,thank you. In Tasmania ,side angles are a fact of life and SPOA is not really an option. Thus, one does the best one can with SPUA. FYI, 2" body lift, 30mm. longer shackles. Kings Springs long travel leaves,(SUZ 002 front, SUZ 006 rear)Gabriel LT gas shocks, Climax shackles at the rear and the sucker works!!
Mock - as above. SPUA :)
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Post by Pat Murray »

Pinion angle is OK as I get about 20-24 months out of the rear uni. (a Mitsubishi one). I agree with what you say about drop shackles but only in regard to stock length leaves-which mine are far from! I've always advocated that drop shackles should be the last droop improver-not the first, otherwise they are a bit tough on the rear spring eyes. Also there is a tendency for people to use them open in the wrong country and then complain about breakages.
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