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Swift carbs

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Swift carbs

Post by OldGold »

I was rather generously gifted a swift carb to put on my sierra the other day, as my thing has been running crap since I got it. Now it's like a street weapon! It's made a huge difference, the car is heaps nippier now... don't get me wrong, it's still slow, but less slow!

Is there anything different about them? Bigger jets or something? Or was my old one just fully stuffed? It's made a huge difference and now the car idles and runs fine to boot.
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Re: Swift carbs

Post by Bad JuJu »

I am really keen to find out more info as mine also runs and idles like crap, I have put a kit through, blown out all all passageways, poked fine wire through jets etc, etc, etc

To get a new or reco'd carby is almost more than the zook is worth.

I have heard of webbers - but these apparently have angle issues

Also heard of early carolla carbs, VW carbs & hyundai carbs but cant find any useful info.
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Post by Spike_Sierra »

hey OG
do you have any specs of what model it came from eg what engine?
any mods to put it on?
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corolla carbies

Post by suzi_shawn »

4k corolla carbie works i dont have one but u can pick em up from the wreckers for like $50
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Post by Red_Zook »

brenno just get a new motor, will solve all your problems
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Post by OldGold »

It's off a mk 1 swift/barina, I'm not sure what year but I can find out if you really want.

It bolted onto the manifold, but all the fittings on it are different, the only vacuum line I could be bothered working out is the advance to the dizzy. The hat seems to be in a different place even, I had to cut the pipe to the airfilter to make it reach, and then tape the hole up :? The fuel-in thing is different, that required a bit of screwing around, and the coolant inlet/outlets were so corroded they broke off inside the new hoses I attached.

Then the thing wouldn't start for ages, turned out it was a solitary cable I cut but have no idea what it's for... why on earth does a carb need a cable going into it? Bloody japs, made everything more complicated than it needs to be.

But it seems to be going well and going hard atm!

BTW I also have a 92 Swift, I checked the carb on that for reference and appears to be very different, different throats, vacuum nipples etc. So I'm not sure if all Swift carbs bolt up.
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Post by sausage »

OldGold wrote:It's off a mk 1 swift/barina, I'm not sure what year but I can find out if you really want.

It bolted onto the manifold, but all the fittings on it are different, the only vacuum line I could be bothered working out is the advance to the dizzy. The hat seems to be in a different place even, I had to cut the pipe to the airfilter to make it reach, and then tape the hole up :? The fuel-in thing is different, that required a bit of screwing around, and the coolant inlet/outlets were so corroded they broke off inside the new hoses I attached.

Then the thing wouldn't start for ages, turned out it was a solitary cable I cut but have no idea what it's for... why on earth does a carb need a cable going into it? Bloody japs, made everything more complicated than it needs to be.

But it seems to be going well and going hard atm!

BTW I also have a 92 Swift, I checked the carb on that for reference and appears to be very different, different throats, vacuum nipples etc. So I'm not sure if all Swift carbs bolt up.
It would be the fuel cut off solenoid. So when you turn the igintiion off it cuts fuel to the carb. ( I think anyway)
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Post by muppet_man67 »

OldGold wrote:It's off a mk 1 swift/barina, I'm not sure what year but I can find out if you really want.

It bolted onto the manifold, but all the fittings on it are different, the only vacuum line I could be bothered working out is the advance to the dizzy. The hat seems to be in a different place even, I had to cut the pipe to the airfilter to make it reach, and then tape the hole up :? The fuel-in thing is different, that required a bit of screwing around, and the coolant inlet/outlets were so corroded they broke off inside the new hoses I attached.

Then the thing wouldn't start for ages, turned out it was a solitary cable I cut but have no idea what it's for... why on earth does a carb need a cable going into it? Bloody japs, made everything more complicated than it needs to be.

But it seems to be going well and going hard atm!

BTW I also have a 92 Swift, I checked the carb on that for reference and appears to be very different, different throats, vacuum nipples etc. So I'm not sure if all Swift carbs bolt up.
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Post by OldGold »

I just remember the downdraught webber on my old Capri - it had one hose for fuel, one for vacuum advance, and that was it. Went hard and never had an issue with it. Plus without all that choke crap in the way probably flowed a lot better too.

Aside from anything, in a car that has all the aerodynamics of a fridge, the creature comforts of a tent and a ride quality comparable to a skateboard, is all that cold start, automatic choke stuff really worth the effort? I'd rather it took a bit longer to warm up and was a bit harder to start but went harder and was more reliable and easier to repair out on the tracks.
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Post by nicbeer »

:rofl: :rofl:

excellent description of a zook. :)

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Post by suzy »

oldgold can you find exactly what car it came off.
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Post by Rhett »

After having carby problems all weekend and half the day off I took a risk and spent 65$ on a 85 swift carb. have stipped it down to just fuel in and vac advance out. It seems to idle alright, I tell U how it goes when we fix the tail shalft and actully drive it. Internalls are very much the same to the naked eye. I don't know if jets are different.
Its a wheelbase thing
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Post by suzy »

Rhett wrote:After having carby problems all weekend and half the day off I took a risk and spent 65$ on a 85 swift carb. have stipped it down to just fuel in and vac advance out. It seems to idle alright, I tell U how it goes when we fix the tail shalft and actully drive it. Internalls are very much the same to the naked eye. I don't know if jets are different.
i did that to the standard one just trying to get a bit more life out off it .
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Post by nicbeer »

got any pics of the stripped down carb?

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Post by spamwell »

i took all the crap off of mine, having probs at the moment but when it was first done it made a huge difference :)
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Post by Rhett »

Swift carb only goes the same as serria.
Its a wheelbase thing
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Post by stumped »

Rhett wrote:Swift carb only goes the same as serria.
what's it like on angles?
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Post by Rhett »

it would be the same as internals are to much alike
Its a wheelbase thing
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Post by suzy »

get pics later but i have a manual choke that cost 15$ from super crap and i have a choke like cable on my acel so its like cruise control.when i start it i pull the choke and when it fires let it go and hold the revs up for about five minutes so it warms up and idles.about 1500 rpm is good.
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Post by suzy »

Hears some pics hope you can see them.i took the plate that is under the carb out so there is no water in it and i joined the pipes with a piece of copper,all the choke is gone exept the butter fly,so there is only fuel in and vac advance a couple of hose's that are blocked but look like there doing sothing.
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Post by OldGold »

Good stuff Suzy, mine is having the odd drama starting because of that f*#cking choke, think I might end up doing the same as you.
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Post by suzy »

mine won't start without a choke,before i put the choke on i used to put my hand over the snorkel and that used to help starting it.Running two n70zz take a while to go flat starting it.
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Post by OldGold »

That's the exact same thing I get - I end up having to flip the choke shut on the linkage with one hand and crank the car with my arm through the window :?
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