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Defender Body Compression

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Defender Body Compression

Post by 4wdn00b »

Everytime i seem to go offroading, i notice that the body of my defender compresses. Usually i just hear the noises of the door seals. But today i got out of the car to have a look at my articulation, and had trouble opening and closing the door.

Just wondering if anyone else notices this?
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Post by DiscoDino »

quite normal...
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Post by tim »

That's why they are built with huge panel gaps.

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Post by matt.mcinnes »

tim wrote:That's why they are built with huge panel gaps.

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Post by Rangie ute on 38'' »

fewww i have the same thing but wasnt game to say ne thing. sounds normal
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Post by Maxtd5def »

Might be worth checking it over though - have a good look for chassis cracks, broken body mounts etc.

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Post by Micka »

You guys must have the ones that were built on Monday mornings...

Either that, or I am not going hard enough.

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Post by lowbox »

Some decent rock sliders help strengthen the body up quite noticeably
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Post by RaginRover »

the rangie's front doors catch in the top of the A pillar when you pick it up but the siders have made a bit of a difference,

this is pretty much the case with every car I have owned, even my old mazda 626 used to do the same thing, although there were no sliders to
fix up the flex :armsup:

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Re: Defender Body Compression

Post by HJ60_HEATHUS »

4wdn00b wrote:Everytime i seem to go offroading, i notice that the body of my defender compresses. Usually i just hear the noises of the door seals. But today i got out of the car to have a look at my articulation, and had trouble opening and closing the door.

Just wondering if anyone else notices this?
you forgot to mention you also had trouble reversing out after checking out your flex... ;)
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Post by tim »

Went to Iceland in a 110. When I came back there was no paint left on the doors inside the frames where they rubbed against the seals. Movement plus volcanis dust.

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Post by Nick (in the Falklands!) »

..Down here, we see quite a bit of 'compression' on the 110's that are up at the base for servicemen to hire when off duty....

(..They seem to have trouble staying on the road...)

Result...They kind of compress all over really, 'bout as wide as a Suzi Heap, short as a 90 & roof level with bonnet...that kind of thing..

(...Or was'nt that quite what you meant...???? :roll: )
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Post by Micka »

I think that is 'squashed' :rofl:
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

I notice this very slightly on my IIA ute - when at maximum wheel travel bothends the door is a bit harder to open and close, but only very slightly. Don't notice it at all on my 110 county wagon though.
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Post by 460cixy »

never had a problem with my old rangie
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Post by Loanrangie »

I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?
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Post by Davidh »

I get the same thing on the Disco.
Rear door gets jammed closed sometimes when you're crossed up.

I reckon the body lift probably makes it worse too.
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Post by DaveS3 »

Loanrangie wrote:I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?
Yeh, ANT ROVER (Anthony) had this prob. I think his Pillar almost snapped clean in half :shock:

Check them all.

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Post by RaginRover »

DaveS3 wrote:
Loanrangie wrote:I am noticing similar on my 85 rangie, i can see the front screen moving in the frame. Also noticed some hairline cracks in 1 door pillar - anyone else had this with a pre 86 ( not welded together ) 4 dr rangie ?
Yeh, ANT ROVER (Anthony) had this prob. I think his Pillar almost snapped clean in half :shock:

Check them all.

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Post by GRIMACE »

I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear :)
The body rubbers must be working well.
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Post by Loanrangie »

AnthonyP wrote:I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear :)
The body rubbers must be working well.
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Post by GRIMACE »

Loanrangie wrote:
AnthonyP wrote:I have not noticed anything body wise but i know the chassis twists just over an inch (both ways, so theoreticaly 2") when max articulation is weighted upon it.

Looks kinda funny when you can see the chassis out of alighnment from front to rear :)
The body rubbers must be working well.
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Post by 110 TUFF »

yep mine does this ( only the rear door ) when realy twisted up.... ive also pop some pop rivets along the rear sides from being realy twisted up.. must flex a little hey :twisted:
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Post by sclarke7171 »

Shut the back door's and watch the rear quarters flex.......... there is a reason behind the sliding glass..............
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