hey guys
just looking at all different views on which turbo to run on my new truck
it is s TD42
My old truck had the AXT kit and i was very happy with that but was producing 92 KW at wheels with 35's, I want more power on the new truck.
Do i look at Denco, DTS, AXT or just custom. maybe buy a T3 from a VL or something. Also want top mount intercooler, all help and ideas would be appreciated
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which turbo
hey i spoke to you about this.
forget all the brand name companies.
look at either a garret turbo or a CT26 turbo which can be found off a supra and make sure its high flowed the CT26 is much cheaper but they are generally recoed turbos. the garret turbo is what i'm thinking of getting there is a website that shows you the specs on these turbos on price but i cant remember it.
you will also have to rebuild you injector pump to flow more fuel cause anything over 18psi your wasting your time as it wont flow enough for fuel for the amount of air your putting through it.
Then you will also need to look at a decent intercooler to reduce inlet temps so you can put more fuel in and hence get more power so if you want top mount maybe an ARE which is off the shelf or build your own or make something similar to ARE but instead of water to air plumb into your aircon return line and that will give good result as well.
If GQtroll comes on from NZ he has some very good points to be made as well.
but depends on how much money you want to spend also.
forget all the brand name companies.
look at either a garret turbo or a CT26 turbo which can be found off a supra and make sure its high flowed the CT26 is much cheaper but they are generally recoed turbos. the garret turbo is what i'm thinking of getting there is a website that shows you the specs on these turbos on price but i cant remember it.
you will also have to rebuild you injector pump to flow more fuel cause anything over 18psi your wasting your time as it wont flow enough for fuel for the amount of air your putting through it.
Then you will also need to look at a decent intercooler to reduce inlet temps so you can put more fuel in and hence get more power so if you want top mount maybe an ARE which is off the shelf or build your own or make something similar to ARE but instead of water to air plumb into your aircon return line and that will give good result as well.
If GQtroll comes on from NZ he has some very good points to be made as well.
but depends on how much money you want to spend also.
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You should ring or see Mark at JPC, he will custom a turbo to suit your requirements which may cost a little more than a standard kit but you will get what you want.
He has been doing a few using roller bearing turbos which are more responsive down low. I think he recently did a GQ and got 120kw.
Cheers
He has been doing a few using roller bearing turbos which are more responsive down low. I think he recently did a GQ and got 120kw.
Cheers
Re: turbo
Not sure of the cost or what work was done.gqmad wrote:in regards to the 120 kws how much did he charge for that
I am considering doing a roller bearing replacement on my GU, they replace the CHRA only. On a GU he did the same that acheived 105kw which was conservative, the low down torque improved greatly.
A new kit only would have to be around $3k plus, so if it was an extra $500 or so I would be spend it and get what you want.
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Everything else aside I agree screw brand names. Build your own kit... Use premade manifold though...
I had been talking to GQTroll heaps about this stuff just going through my PM's. Lots of good info regarding hi flowing/pump mods. Here is some golden stuff he wrote to me. There was a picture of the guy he is talking abouts shorty... It was on 35's significantly lighting them up on concrete.. in a diesel...
Might save him writing it again...
"Turbo kits consisted of CT26 turbos from Celica GT-4's, home-made exhaust maniflods, and oil fee/return lines from a Hydraulink shop. All up cost was less than $1000, including turbo, 3" exhaust etc. Unfortunately, we have heaps of trouble with the exh manifolds blowing the gaskets (genuine Ni$$an ones), so I'm about to get a custom extractor manifold made up. We looked at making more kits and selling them to mates, but its simply not worth it. He can get DTS kits for NZ$2700 and we fit them in about 6hrs :-) We couldn’t find a genuine Nissan turbo exh manifoild here, so had to build our own which was pretty time consuming.
He "hi-flowed" my turbo using Garret T0-4E compressor wheel to give it lots of top end (downside is more lag down low) and is great for highway driving......I do about 800kms a week, as my girlfriend lives 3hrs away!!! Makes travelling a lot easier. I've fitted a GU aircleaner behind LH headlight, but have found it too restrictive. Aaron runs a Donaldson truck cleaner, 8" diameter and 12-14" long......even it is too restrictive!!!! I'm running 12psi of boost on mine, while Aaron's is apprx 16psi.
The most important modification is the fuel pump. He uses the 12mm plunger froma Toyota 80 series (1HD-T engine) in the Nissan pump to double the fuel flow. Standard Nissan pump flows apprx 57cc's of fuel per 1000 shots, Aarons is approx 120cc's and mine is approx 107cc's. Economy improves with the pump as you're only using 1/4-1/3 of the throttle instead of 1/2 or 3/4!!! If you're gonna turbo it....I would certainly recommend doing the pump too!!..."
Copied and pasted from pm's...
Yeah so ask GQtroll...
I had been talking to GQTroll heaps about this stuff just going through my PM's. Lots of good info regarding hi flowing/pump mods. Here is some golden stuff he wrote to me. There was a picture of the guy he is talking abouts shorty... It was on 35's significantly lighting them up on concrete.. in a diesel...
Might save him writing it again..."Turbo kits consisted of CT26 turbos from Celica GT-4's, home-made exhaust maniflods, and oil fee/return lines from a Hydraulink shop. All up cost was less than $1000, including turbo, 3" exhaust etc. Unfortunately, we have heaps of trouble with the exh manifolds blowing the gaskets (genuine Ni$$an ones), so I'm about to get a custom extractor manifold made up. We looked at making more kits and selling them to mates, but its simply not worth it. He can get DTS kits for NZ$2700 and we fit them in about 6hrs :-) We couldn’t find a genuine Nissan turbo exh manifoild here, so had to build our own which was pretty time consuming.
He "hi-flowed" my turbo using Garret T0-4E compressor wheel to give it lots of top end (downside is more lag down low) and is great for highway driving......I do about 800kms a week, as my girlfriend lives 3hrs away!!! Makes travelling a lot easier. I've fitted a GU aircleaner behind LH headlight, but have found it too restrictive. Aaron runs a Donaldson truck cleaner, 8" diameter and 12-14" long......even it is too restrictive!!!! I'm running 12psi of boost on mine, while Aaron's is apprx 16psi.
The most important modification is the fuel pump. He uses the 12mm plunger froma Toyota 80 series (1HD-T engine) in the Nissan pump to double the fuel flow. Standard Nissan pump flows apprx 57cc's of fuel per 1000 shots, Aarons is approx 120cc's and mine is approx 107cc's. Economy improves with the pump as you're only using 1/4-1/3 of the throttle instead of 1/2 or 3/4!!! If you're gonna turbo it....I would certainly recommend doing the pump too!!..."
Copied and pasted from pm's...
Yeah so ask GQtroll...
[quote="MSCHIF"]SPUA its like shaving a barbie dolls head, amusing but pointless.[/quote]
Re: ....
Does anyone know price to mod the pump and who to do it.JemmyBubbles wrote:
The most important modification is the fuel pump. He uses the 12mm plunger froma Toyota 80 series (1HD-T engine) in the Nissan pump to double the fuel flow. Standard Nissan pump flows apprx 57cc's of fuel per 1000 shots, Aarons is approx 120cc's and mine is approx 107cc's. Economy improves with the pump as you're only using 1/4-1/3 of the throttle instead of 1/2 or 3/4!!! If you're gonna turbo it....I would certainly recommend doing the pump too!!..."
Yup, what he said up there ;-) One thing to change from my original comments.....if you can afford it, spend a bit extra and get a custom extractor type exhaust manifold made up. Seems to help flow exhaust gases alot better, helps reduce lag abit too. I should have done mine much sooner!hey guys
just looking at all different views on which turbo to run on my new truck
it is s TD42
My old truck had the AXT kit and i was very happy with that but was producing 92 KW at wheels with 35's, I want more power on the new truck.
Do i look at Denco, DTS, AXT or just custom. maybe buy a T3 from a VL or something. Also want top mount intercooler, all help and ideas would be appreciated
Modified pump using 12mm plunger is NZ$1750. Takes a few weeks to do as the parts are ex Japan. We require your old pump in exchange too.
Highway Diesel Services in Coopers Plains do it for a bit more than us, but can turn it around in a quicker time-frame if its urgent.
Cheers
Mitch
Try Denco in Wagga Wagga
http://www.dencodiesel.com/
They did my pump cost $1450 gives 100% more fuel.
http://www.dencodiesel.com/
They did my pump cost $1450 gives 100% more fuel.
A couple of things to clear up for these mods.
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
A couple of things to clear up for these mods.
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
A couple of things to clear up for these mods.
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good comporimise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
A couple of things to clear up for these mods.
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good compromise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
What do you want from your vehicle???? Low down torque or great power. You cant have both.
First the more power you want the more you sacrifice down low. More power requires more air flow, which then means more fuel. More air means bigger turbo. A comprimise must be met. We have found the gt25 a good compromise. Capable of 130-150kw at the wheels. Standard pump will be good for 100-110 rwkw no matter what size turbo you fit.
We have done two vehicles now, both reached 147 and 150rwkw. Fitted with gt25 and gt30 respectively. I will get dyno graphs soon to show the difference.
Pump mods are the next thing. Its not just a matter of fitting a 12mm plunger and your done. To be driven on the road and running clean enough to not get an epa notice takes some tuning/time. Each pump has to be set on the vehicle before it leaves. Costs range any where from 1200-3000 clams. Depending on how good your pump is. Injectors are next. They are modified as well.
Exhaust, inlet and filtration are totally different to standard. A pyro and intercooling are neccessities, engine condition will then come into it as well. If it uses oil, forget it.
The 150 kw machine was a standard engine. How it is now I dont know, but I saw it after 12 months and was still going strong. All depends on your right foot i spose.
If you are interested call me. 9739 5031 Andy
Or pm if u have a lot of questions.
Cheers
Andy
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