Help! I need to replace a 22R!

[ingthorsson]

Hi. I need to know which engine will fit the same bellhousing as a 22R from an ´87 short wheelbase ´Cruiser.
(Or an engine/bellhousing combo that would fit the 5sp. ´Cruiser gearbox).
What I want would need to be at least 2 liters and fuel injected.
What is most readily available here in Sweden are the Camry engines; 3S-FE and possibly the 2VZ-FE.
Are there other possibilities? Remember I´m doing this low buck, so fancy stuff like twin turbo Supra engines are out of the question, they cost ten to twenty times more than the Camry engines around here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ingthorsson.

[4sum4]

[quote="ingthorsson"]Hi. I need to know which engine will fit the same bellhousing as a 22R from an ´87 short wheelbase ´Cruiser.
(Or an engine/bellhousing combo that would fit the 5sp. ´Cruiser gearbox).
What I want would need to be at least 2 liters and fuel injected.
What is most readily available here in Sweden are the Camry engines; 3S-FE and possibly the 2VZ-FE.
Are there other possibilities? Remember I´m doing this low buck, so fancy stuff like twin turbo Supra engines are out of the question, they cost ten to twenty times more than the Camry engines around here.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ingthorsson.[/quoteBy waht your saying in the cheap side of things maybe a 22RE if you got`em

[ingthorsson]

Thanks for the tip 4sum4.
In what kind of car might I find a 22RE?

Ingthorsson.

[beebee]

Thanks for the tip 4sum4.
In what kind of car might I find a 22RE?

Ingthorsson.

We had them in Toyota Coronas and Celicas.

Can you get a 3RZ-FE (2.7 EFI)

[ingthorsson]

Celicas are to be found here in Sweden, but Coronas??? Thats something I remember from my youth in Iceland in the sixties and seventies.
Just goes to show that they sell cars under different names on different markets, or keep some models longer in different places.
2,7 EFI sounds interesting, but again I wouldn´t know in which vehicles that engine is to be found: Some advice please???

Thanks,

Ingthorsson.

[ingthorsson]

Just found out: the 3RZ-FE is to be found in the Hi-ace, at least, probably too new and therefore too expensive an engine for my budget though.
The older 2.4i, 2RZ-E, on the other hand is a possibility because the
Hi-Ace is a very common vehicle in Iceland and that engine simply must have a lot more potential than its wimpy 119 horses in the Hi-Ace???
Definitely bears checking out although I think most af the Hi-Aces in Iceland are diesels.

Please keep the advice flowing,

Ingthorsson.

[jr9162]

Go to this forum and search under 3RZ-FE. The 2RZ-FE has the same block to bellhousing bolt pattern so you solve fitment issues in the same manner.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?board=14.0

[ingthorsson]

Thanks for the tip.
Must say though that this kind of wiring jpb is really scary, maybe I'd better keep my 22R and stick to the KISS principle.
I'm still kinda hooked on the idea of a Volvo 2.3i with an auto tranny and that Volvo FD51 syncronized transfer case. Plenty of guys in Sweden who can help me hook up the electrics of that engine. ?!?!?!?!?!?

Ingthorsson

[jr9162]

Simplest thing is install a 1995 22RE from a Hilux or 4Runner. Since you have a LD drive vehice, the wiring harness from a US or Euro donor vehicle is possibly a bolt in swap. Dunno the difference in the wiring loom off the 4Runner and your TLC. Is it a RJ70? Does it have the R150F/R151F gearbox?

If your head on the 22R is 1985 (Laser block) or later I believe all the 22R-E fuel injection parts will bolt to your stock 22R head.

Go to the forum on www.marlincrawler.com and search for 22R-E EFI conversions.

Why not slap a 1KZ-T from a 93-96 LH drive European 4Runner in it?

JR

[ingthorsson]

I do believe that my gearbox is the R150F and that the TLC that donated the whole driveline was an '86 or ´87.
RJ70 ?? I dunno. Its a short wheelbase coilsprung model.
I ever only got the frame with runnig gear: the plan was always to swap it into a Zook.
I just might be able to get hold of a 4Runner engine while I'm here in Iceland.
If I do a swap, including wiring harness with all the electroublic that goes with it into a Zook, I'd be tempted to go a step further and go for a V6 from a Camry. That is an engine that is easily available in Sweden.

Thanks for the tips,

Ingthorsson.

[jr9162]

Well if you go v6, use the 3.4 liter 5VZ-FE not the 3.0 liter 3VZ-E. The 3.4 liter is a much better engine. However to make it work with your 160 mm (6.5") long input shaft on the R150F gearbox, you'll need to use the 3.0 liter engines bellhousing. All 3.4 liter v6 Toyota truck and 4Runners in the US with 5 speeds use a R150F with a 190 mm long input shaft. And their Tcase is a LH front output as well. All our 3.0 liter v6 Tcases are RH front output. So you have to mix some parts to make the 3.4 liter v6 fit your gearbox.

Your best bet is a 93-96 1KZ-T from a LH drive European 4 Runner. It comes only with a 5 speed, R150F. And that engine and OEM bellhousing will bolt right up to your R150F gearbox. Taa daa, a 3.0 liter turbocharged diesel with mechanical injector pump.

Tell me, does your Tcase (I presume gear driven) have a center or offset rear output? I know the front and rear axles are coil sprung 8" diff (Hilux and 4Runner parts fit them).

I have a pic of a 9.25" FJ45 rear diff a guy in Oz welded up with Hilux outer shafts, using the stock 30 spline 8" Hilux axle shafts and brakes. The conversion has the diff centered for use in a Hilux and looks real trick.

Another engine you may want to consider is the 1.9 liter VW diesel (NA or TDI) with an adapter kit that mounts the VW block to a 22R Toyota bellhousing. Uses the 22R flywheel and clutch. I know two guys in my town using this engine, and all HiLux driveline in their Suzuki Sammys.

JR

[Chucky]

What about the 22RG. It is just a twin cam 22R engine and you can go either the twin carb or the efi. They are a very basic engine and setting up the efi with a basic aftermarket computer is very sinple. I know in aust you can pick up a 22rg rebuild for about 1K aust.

[jr9162]

Chucky,

I know nothing about the 22R-G but would like to know more. PM or e-mail me with more info!

JR

[Chucky]

I was slightly drunk when I posted that last bit.
I was thinking of the 18RG. It is a 2litre twin cam four cylinder that you can have either twin carbs or efi.
Very common over here is aust. the 18r engine came out in the early celicas, corollas, hiluxs and hi ace vans. The only difference is the head between the 18r and the 18rg. and how you deliver the fuel.

[jr9162]

Ingthorsson,

I know the LJ70 and BJ70 (Bunderas) had coil sprung 8" ring and pinion HiLuz style axles. Does your R150F gearbox have a mid or offset rear output shaft on the Tcase?

I'm curious to learn more about the Bunderas. Would love to find one in LH drive.

JR