Feroza or Rocky??? Help

[HotFourOk]

Hey guys,

I'm buying a new 4WD and am deciding between a Feroza or Rocky. Its a daily driver as well as taken on bush tracks, beach etc on the weekend.

The Rocky is a '93 Independent F78, 2.8L RV Turbo I/C Diesel. (200,000kms)

The feroza is around a 94-95 widetrack model. 1.6L Injected. (~160,000kms)
The Fez has a bullbar where the Rocky does not, and also has power windows and mirrors too.

The Feroza is about $9g where the Rocky is $11g.

Just wondering if the Feroza is underpowered in terms of 4WDing compared to the Rocky, as the Turbo creates bucketloads of torque.

My only worry is lack or mods and spare parts for the Rocky, where Ferozas are quite common to repair/modify.
Do the front end parts of a Fez fit on a Rocky? Like bullbar etc?
Can all later model Feroza's have the rear roof removed?

Thanks guys... i need help

[RockyF75]

Hey guys,

I'm buying a new 4WD and am deciding between a Feroza or Rocky. Its a daily driver as well as taken on bush tracks, beach etc on the weekend.

The Rocky is a '93 Independent F78, 2.8L RV Turbo I/C Diesel. (200,000kms)

The feroza is around a 94-95 widetrack model. 1.6L Injected. (~160,000kms)
The Fez has a bullbar where the Rocky does not, and also has power windows and mirrors too.

The Feroza is about $9g where the Rocky is $11g.

Just wondering if the Feroza is underpowered in terms of 4WDing compared to the Rocky, as the Turbo creates bucketloads of torque.

My only worry is lack or mods and spare parts for the Rocky, where Ferozas are quite common to repair/modify.
Do the front end parts of a Fez fit on a Rocky? Like bullbar etc?
Can all later model Feroza's have the rear roof removed?

Thanks guys... i need help

They are both IFS, so neither a 'serious' 4x4's (its debatable but generally accepted ), you'll find that both are generally not easy to find parts/mods for. Diesel will be better offroad due to better engine breaking and lower gear ratios, and better in watere specially if u make a snorkel (get used to MAKING things instead of buying em ), also bit better fuel consumption but then the roza has a tiny engine. But diesel will give u more bang for buck. And being a turbo, i'd def go the rocky. But if u want to go rock crawling and get a lift, find a slightly older rocky, turbo diesel but with live axle... i also think 11g is WAAAAY too much. There was one near my house for 8g, i think was even a bit newer than 93 not sure though.


EDIT - And the diesel engine will likely last longer if looked after, and the reviews i have heard for rockies are that their diffs + gearbox is serious overkill for the size of motor it runs, so they have a good strong drivetrain... apparently

[coffen]

As far a I know the chassis rails are the same as the list a larger fuel tank that is the same part number. The body was very simular only the finishing was different. The feroza is a light duty unit as the motor & gear ing in the rocky was made as a more robust off roader. the shockers are listed the same also.

[HotFourOk]

Yeah the Rocky is in good nick but its way overpriced as you said... I've seen that people have to MAKE snorkels etc coz you just cant buy that sorta stuff for them.

Lets see what price I can get the Rocky down to and go from there hey

If I need help with stuff later, theres always you guys

[flynn]

definatly go the rocky.
besides it sounds better to say u have a 2.8 diesel rocky than a feroza.
rockys rock!!! thats all i can say.
even if i have broken an engine mount, gearbox mount, front diff, power steering box, flattened 2 tyres,busted both rear leaf perches, bent the bull bar, drowned it, ripped through 2 radiator hoses and stuffed my alternater and only got it this year but she still goes unf**kinreal

[murcod]

For a daily driver with occasional off road work I'd go for a Feroza. The Rocky's are very heavy (well over 1700kg) whereas the Ferozas are around 1300kg and nimble to drive around town. Mine has decent pickup at 100km/h, but I wouldn't suggest buying one if you are planning on doing lots of country km (the ride can be a bit choppy).

Feroza's handle very well on road and are reasonably quick given what they are. I get around 10.5l /100km economy. Power wise off road, low range will give plenty of torque but isn't low enough if you want to crawl over serious rocks etc (I don't know if the Rocky's gearing is any better?)

IF you want to do serious off road stuff and lots of mods then neither would be a good buy IMHO- unless you like doing lots of custom mods and driving something different.

The front and rear roof sections on all the Ferozas are both removeable. The front "sunroof"will also tilt open at the back.

[RockyF75]

For a daily driver with occasional off road work I'd go for a Feroza. The Rocky's are very heavy (well over 1700kg) whereas the Ferozas are around 1300kg and nimble to drive around town. Mine has decent pickup at 100km/h, but I wouldn't suggest buying one if you are planning on doing lots of country km (the ride can be a bit choppy).

Feroza's handle very well on road and are reasonably quick given what they are. I get around 10.5l /100km economy. Power wise off road, low range will give plenty of torque but isn't low enough if you want to crawl over serious rocks etc (I don't know if the Rocky's gearing is any better?)

IF you want to do serious off road stuff and lots of mods then neither would be a good buy IMHO- unless you like doing lots of custom mods and driving something different.

The front and rear roof sections on all the Ferozas are both removeable. The front "sunroof"will also tilt open at the back.

My rego ticket says my rocky is 2.1T , it is also a daily driver and i manage, i find it good cuz it keeps speeding tickets to a minimum, but in syndeys traffic you should be awarded if you manage to speed ... i dont know how roza's are for gearing but my rocky is pretty good, have done some crazy rockclimbs where people almost laughed when they saw me approach them (stopped laughing once i get to the top ) and she manages to keep up with a GQ, and occasionaly outwheels a 60 series. I find it a bit underpowered going up REALLY steep stuff so i'd hate to image how the 1.6L Roza would go up similar. All in all, it's up to what you want. Do you want a serious offroad car + daily driver, go the rocky, if you want a capable offroad car + daily driver, go the roza. I get around 10-11L/100 k so similar to rozas. And if you go 2" lift + bigger tyres it will be unstopable

[4x4xmore]

mate feroza or rocky of course every one is gonna tell u what they drive is the best. to be honest if u want something with more torque and that can tow a little bit more than a feroza then why not go a turbo diesel rocky, as for offroad there prob about the same. my personel opinion get a feroza, cheaper to replace a petrol than a diesel, i have no probs getting parts for my feroza, and pretty reasonably priced too.

as for them not being a serious offroader then i beg to differ, of course there is not alot of aftermarket accesories available but most mods are still acheivable. i go out with brauer (from outer limits) quite often and hell agree that we have had our ferozas more places than the other blokes that come out with us have had theres. and they drive a lifted 4runner, lifted surf, swb pajero.

dont underestimate the mighty feroza.......

[bullwinkle]

The 93 rocky standard weighs 1625kg with a 2.8l engine with 75kw. The 94 feroza weighs around 1250kg with a 1.6l engine with 70kw. But the rocky has a shite load more torque with 245nm whereas the feroza only has 128nm, that is the reason why I love my rocky so much cause it eats the hills, doesn't even realise they're there.

My 2c anyway.

[r0ck_m0nkey]

Yeah the Rocky is in good nick but its way overpriced as you said...

Nothing you couldn't try and talk down.

The question really is what do you want.

The Rocky has got more interior space, especially behind the back seats and more so when folded up. The Rocky also has a Coil sprung rear end and longer wheel base so should provide a bit more comfort. Front guards will have more room in them aswell to easily upgrade to larger tyres in the futuren awell.

There is really only benefits towards the Rocky as far as body shape is concerned, you can only then step to the debate of wether you want Petrol or a Turbo Diesel engine, and thats about all i can say will be your deciding factor. You will find them both to be about the same when it comes to tracking down aftermarket parts, the Rocky will probably be a little more expensive to maintain though.