Massojet vs High pressure cleaner

[6.5 rangie]

I just got one of those massojet high pressure washers with the air attachment for the compresser. Not overly impressed with it, mind you i had nothing to clean just squirting it around the yard. I was thinking of taking it back and getting a Karcher instead.

[blkmav]

I've got both, take it back and get a pressure washer.

[muttley]

Ive got the basic massojet and a K'Archer high pressure cleaner and I use both. The pressure cleaner is excellent to get the bad mud off. But I use the massojet most of the time as it is great for getting inside the chassis and other difficult places to get in. And with the on/off type switch the massojet is perfect for using with the water restrictions.

[sudso]

I just got one of those massojet high pressure washers with the air attachment for the compresser. Not overly impressed with it, mind you i had nothing to clean just squirting it around the yard. I was thinking of taking it back and getting a Karcher instead.

I've got one too and as you say the pressure is well, umm......pathetic!
Had 80psi running through it and all it did was turn the water into a misty spray.
Hell! Me missus garden water gun does better!

I have the standard massojet too (no air connection) and it has about 5 times the water pressure because the centre hole in the spray nozzle is about 10 times smaller than the hole in the other one.
I will swap wands tomorrow and see how that goes but make sure the water is on and valve is open first as air goes back down the water pipe on the air/water wand with the big spray nozzle hole!

You'd think they'd come up with somethin a bit better than that for the price of these things!

[Pat Murray]

I agree. the Massojet is truly pathetic! I emailed k'archer some time ago and suggested they build an adaptor to mate the k'archer to the massojet. Got no response. Still reckon it's a marketing opportunity.

[jessie928]

speaking of pressure washers, who is the sparky amoungst us. I have a karcher, with a singl;e phase simens motor, It has a 6 pole relay/switch of some sort and a cpacitor, i am at a loss how to wire it up

there are 3 wires comming from the motor. and teh capasitor has 2

Jes

[6.5 rangie]

Capacitor goes across active and neutral

[NZ4x4]

I've got the Massojet (non air type) and i love it, i use it all the time for the under body, wheel wells etc. i use my karcher waterblaster for the tops sides, but I cant get it into ticght places under the body.

get both!

[6.5 rangie]

It seems that the non air one is better than the air operated one, more pressure?

[xplot]

yeah the Massojet is crap i have a the applicator where you add you shanmpoo and that now just leaks heap of crap, go the Karcher thats what i am looking for now

[rainsey]

Hmmm... have both and living in an area with stuff all water pressure I could piss harder than the massojet..... horses for courses and my course demands the pressure washer.... pity due to water restictions I cannot use it.

Bugger

Rainsey

[grazza]

I have a massojet and a karcher.
I would not clean my car with the karcher, its too powerful and will get water into places it should not go, e.g. CV boots, grease seals, floor plugs, door/window seals, etc...

The massojet is great for getting loose mud from under wheel arches and pumping water into the chassis rails, but I even think its too strong for some places.

After a serious play in the mud you just have to get under the car and pull the worst of the mud off with your hands.

I would especially not recommend high pressure sprayers for modern efi cars with lots of electrics and fancy dust proofing.

[Slug]

Am looking at buying a decent pressure washer myself ... Can I ask what model Karcher you blokes are using?

[ozrunner]

Yep the air Masojet is a ripoff and a POS.

First time I connected mine up I got soaked as the turn off fittings pissed water out from their knobs. The valves were next to useless as even turned off they still let water threw and my dicks got more water pressure than they have .

Been meaning to take it back to ARB and tell them where to jam it.

[Tas_Dean]

Capacitor goes across active and neutral

Would help not to post "tech" like this without knowing the proper way of connecting this. The way you say is correct for power conditioning, but not for split phase motor starting.

The capacitor is EITHER a start or a run capacitor (most likely a start capacitor), and connects to the appropriate winding. Without more info,it is impossible to say where it connects. This is the reason it has "funny 6 pole switch/relay thing" Single phase motors generally aren't quite as simple as "connect active and neutraland off it goes". Excepting permanent magnet motors, they need a split phase to start.

Cheers, Dean

[NZ4x4]

I've got a Karcher K4.97 M. Plenty for what i need but is a pain in the ass to store away due to the hoses not being able to wind up.

Next time I would buy K5.50 M

[bigpat]

Got a Karcher 4.99, and I love it! Good flow capacity & pressure. It doesn't have to work as hard as the little ones, especially if using it for extended periods. Has changable nozzles, and have found the Dirt Blaster fitting is GROUSE for getting the thick mud off anything. Just dont aim in the engine bay. Shredded bonnet blanket, and bent intercooler fins taught me that one....

[80UTE]

Iv got the Karcher HDS 551 C and it kicks arse ahs Diesel heated hot wash, 20 lt detergent tank great flow and pressure as thats what you need to get the thick mud off. The other bonus is its too big and heavy to lift so mates dont ask to borrow and at a cost of arround $4000 i got it for my use. It is industrial quality unit so it shouldlast me a life time but i get heaps of use with 2 4B's and 5 dirt bikes in the shed. The hot wash function is the best part of it as it makes a huge differnce when cleaning greasy bits and great on cold winter days after being out 4Bing in the wet. The only mod i done was to shorten the lance to ease cleaning under the 4B's

wally