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i voted land rover thres so many ppl willing to knock them . yet have had nothing to do with them and yet there "experts"
second would be zooks thay allways amaze me off road but in standard form are very average.
third would be nissan fark anything other than a toyota or a jeep.
as for old mades bundera beating a range rover recon if ya pulled 4 leads off the rangie it might have a chance. might.
as for toyota winning the poll remember sonys betamax videos far better picture and sound than vcr. yet vcr was more popular than betamax cause of good marketing and price nothing more. toyotas are just cheap well marketed crap advertised by john laws on shity am talk back
second would be zooks thay allways amaze me off road but in standard form are very average.
third would be nissan fark anything other than a toyota or a jeep.
as for old mades bundera beating a range rover recon if ya pulled 4 leads off the rangie it might have a chance. might.
as for toyota winning the poll remember sonys betamax videos far better picture and sound than vcr. yet vcr was more popular than betamax cause of good marketing and price nothing more. toyotas are just cheap well marketed crap advertised by john laws on shity am talk back
range rover & series one landy!
After Owning a BJ42 and having heaps of electrical problems I now own a Disco I think for a true all rounder the rangy/disco are probobly the easiest car to live with and for going off-roading. And has anybody read any articles about the new Rangy Sport and Discovery 3. Nothing will comes close to touching these 4wd's straight off the showroom, on and off the road! Even the mighty Partol with its coil live axles and LSD is left way behind.
The new Landrover frame will be in use for many years to come, just like the Rangy frame from 1970. The current defender frame is very similar except for being 10 inches shorter (SWB 90) or 10 inches longer (the 110).
So my vote is for the Landrover, because the are pretty much the only 4wd company that is willing to be innovative. Sure toyota and nissan will probably come out with something more reliable but they will copy the ideas from Landrover. Toyota and nissan are pretty much copying the european car companies.
The new Landrover frame will be in use for many years to come, just like the Rangy frame from 1970. The current defender frame is very similar except for being 10 inches shorter (SWB 90) or 10 inches longer (the 110).
So my vote is for the Landrover, because the are pretty much the only 4wd company that is willing to be innovative. Sure toyota and nissan will probably come out with something more reliable but they will copy the ideas from Landrover. Toyota and nissan are pretty much copying the european car companies.
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Land Rover makes only 4WDs.LEXX wrote:.
NO other 4WD manufactuer can boast they have only 4wd's in their line up, Jeep ONLY make 4wd's.
LR don't make a 2WD and haven't done since the early '50s. If you are referring to the Freelander, it is constant 4WD. It uses a viscous centre diff - the IRD - to provide constant 4WD. It is not like CRVs et al.Jeeps wrote:[Only for special order & they made those in right hand drive as well (for the US postie's) but they were not available to the general public, as the 2WD Landrover's are.
Land Rover haven't made part-time 4WDs since the late 70's.
Ron
1995 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
In its present form, this poll is meaningless. Toymota and Missin sales far outnumber Land Rover or Jeep.
So if that is taken into account and the poll results are normalised, then you'd find that Land Rover is winning the poll by a huge margin.
High volume sales doesn't mean a better 4WD.
Ron
So if that is taken into account and the poll results are normalised, then you'd find that Land Rover is winning the poll by a huge margin.
High volume sales doesn't mean a better 4WD.
Ron
1995 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
bingo just as i tryed to explan with the betamax thingp38arover wrote:In its present form, this poll is meaningless. Toymota and Missin sales far outnumber Land Rover or Jeep.
So if that is taken into account and the poll results are normalised, then you'd find that Land Rover is winning the poll by a huge margin.
High volume sales doesn't mean a better 4WD.
Ron
range rover & series one landy!
AnthonyP wrote:land rovers suk
Previously you wrote (page 1)
RonAnthonyP wrote:Well for 4wd nuthing beats a Land Rover
I Like toyota and have been fans of them for so long but after getting round in a Rangie (when they work) nuthing is better.
AND I have one word and One (actually three) number - DEFENDER 110
1995 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
Is that like "drooling"?grimbo wrote:they are in the closet druellinggreg wrote:where are all these closet jeep lovers coming from?
drool
• verb 1 drop saliva uncontrollably from the mouth. 2 (often drool over) informal show excessive pleasure or desire.
• noun saliva falling from the mouth.
— ORIGIN contraction of DRIVEL.
Drivel - most stuff in this thread.
drivel
/drivv’l/
• noun nonsense.
• verb (drivelled, drivelling; US driveled, driveling) 1 talk nonsense. 2 archaic let saliva or mucus flow from the mouth or nose.
Ron
1995 Range Rover 4.6 HSE
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
2005 Subaru Forester 2.5X
i changed my mind... they suk nowp38arover wrote:AnthonyP wrote:land rovers suk
Previously you wrote (page 1)
RonAnthonyP wrote:Well for 4wd nuthing beats a Land Rover
I Like toyota and have been fans of them for so long but after getting round in a Rangie (when they work) nuthing is better.
AND I have one word and One (actually three) number - DEFENDER 110
Did someone say that there would be a free tweed coat and pair of gumboots to any land rover nut that posted in here..
Since I was a small kid we have had lots of 4x4's Landrover's Disco and a series 3, Suzuki's SJ410 and Sj413, Nissans MQ x 3, GQ x2 and GUx1, Landcrusier series 80 and Dudlux's LN106 and Gen1 RN ..
I now own a GU and a Dudlux Gen 1 (wishing I still had my Zook) I like the Patrol the best as a tourer/Daily driver, The Zuk was a great toy and the Lux's make a great work hack ...
All I recall about the Disco was lousy ergonomics, uncomfortable seats , and dodgey wireing, pitiful fuel economy and keeping a few spare shopping bags around to put the things that fell off it into... Apart from that it was great
Since I was a small kid we have had lots of 4x4's Landrover's Disco and a series 3, Suzuki's SJ410 and Sj413, Nissans MQ x 3, GQ x2 and GUx1, Landcrusier series 80 and Dudlux's LN106 and Gen1 RN ..
I now own a GU and a Dudlux Gen 1 (wishing I still had my Zook) I like the Patrol the best as a tourer/Daily driver, The Zuk was a great toy and the Lux's make a great work hack ...
All I recall about the Disco was lousy ergonomics, uncomfortable seats , and dodgey wireing, pitiful fuel economy and keeping a few spare shopping bags around to put the things that fell off it into... Apart from that it was great
" If governments are involved in the covering up the knowledge of aliens, Then they are doing a much better job of it than they do of everything else "
If you have ever tried giving a Landy's a hiding offroad, then tried A Patrol, you will realise ther are better things to do whilst away than replace axles & gearboxes.D110V8D wrote:If you're a sheep you drive whatever the other sheep tell you to drive.
If you're the farmer you drive a Landy. The best 4x4xa farkin long shot!
Nissan driveline rules.
Pat,
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
Brisbane, Australia,
JK 4door Rubicon, currently 4 Sale :(
It's a Jeep thing, I don't understand........
I love it how some landy fanatics get so defensive about their beloved vehicle My grandfather used to be in the landrover club, he told me that back in his day the landy lovers would defend them to the teeth when anyone ever bagged them out for weak axles etc, they would keep driving them and saying they were the best even if they broke an axle every trip, nothings changed
Oh and toyotas are it as far as an all round 4b, not the strongest, not the heaviest, but just right the poll speaks for itself
Oh and toyotas are it as far as an all round 4b, not the strongest, not the heaviest, but just right the poll speaks for itself
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If you could only vote if you have owned a Landrover and a Toyota/Patrol, I think the vote would be vastly different. You would get a more educated vote and Landrover would win. (I would upgrade the axles and diffs first but)
So Patrol owners just aren't educated.
So Patrol owners just aren't educated.
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