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Roofrack design for Rocky (Feroza would have same issue) ?

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Roofrack design for Rocky (Feroza would have same issue) ?

Post by RockyMan »

I'm thinking of putting a roofrack on my Rocky. Two kids take back seat space and don't really want to pull trailer. My only concern is the plastic roof. How strong is it really?
I want roofrack to run from above windscreen to the back doors.
I would use it for camping gear, spare tyre, swags etc.

Has anyone got one ?
Is the flat metal framed plywood design a good idea ?

Any suggestions ?
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Post by murcod »

I've got the Rola style bars on my Feroza. The rear bar has a stainless steel strap at either end that runs down under the window and fastens to one of the bolts under the window's upper lip.

I've had a fully loaded 370 litre luggage pod on it and driven on some dirt roads without any problems. You can buy the metal mesh baskets to bolt onto the same bars. Rhino and Thule also make bars to suit that you can bolt whatever you want onto. It all adds up though $$$$$.

I think Rola racks to suit a Feroza are around $280 new. The Rola site has online prices from memory www.rola.com.au (or something like that!)
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Post by Ferwoaza »

Brother in law has roof racks on his Feroza, had a cargo luggage holder on the roof, and it a tree with it. Bent the front gutter, rear didn't do anything! It's strong enough..
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Post by *BESTY* »

Seems as though you might have an issue with the strength of the Resin Hardtop to install roof racks ?? :!:

I can guaruntee its strength.............After rolling 360 degrees 3 weeks ago, the top only has a small crack where the B-pillar got pushed in by the mounting bolt. It IS otherwise intact !! It did collect the FULL brunt of being 'landed on' and held up beautifully. The rear (side) windows did both pop out and smash, but the roof was together !!
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Post by RockyMan »

Thanks for all replies.
Now is just the matter of getting a best design.
I like aluminium because of light weight but on the other hand
steel would be much easier to fix or work on.

I want full length rack but still would like to use the sunroof so it means
that roofrack would have hole above sunroof (a big hole).
It would be more like arb/tjm style roofrack but would like someone else
to actually make it .

Ferozius - thanks for extensive testing.
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Post by Rick »

Re your enquiry as to a roof rack.

I have one on mine if we are talking about an F75 Rocky. It is full length, alluminium and mounts both onto the gutter above the main cab as well as over the resin top.

If this is what you want, let me know and I will take a few shots of it and post them as well.

Have not really tested it as I have only really just got the beast. I would say it stands up fairly well as my F75 has in excess of 480K on it and I am led to believe that the rack has been on nearly all of this time.

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Post by murcod »

http://www.speedworks.com.my/we_daihatsu2.htm

Check that link out- Formula Offroad (an Aussie company?) are supposed to make a 4ft aluminium rack to suit.

http://www.formulaoffroad.com.au/page4.html
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Post by RockyMan »

Thanks Rick .
That's what i'm really after. Send some photos.
Any idea who made the rack ?

Murcod - thanks mate but that style will suit only the
SWB Rocky with whole full gutter metal roof.
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Post by murcod »

RockyMan wrote:Murcod - thanks mate but that style will suit only the
SWB Rocky with whole full gutter metal roof.


Are you sure? The same one is listed to fit a Feroza too. See below:

http://www.speedworks.com.my/we_daihatsu1.htm
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Post by Big-Stu »

I've had a full length aluminum roofrack for my 92 Rocky for a couple of years now.

As for the strength - I have had full pallets of timber stacked on my roofrack , enough to bottom out the rear springs and nothing broke.
Don't know how much it weighed, a couple of hundred kilos, was an interesting drive home to say the least
Ya gotta watch them blokes with forklifts at timber yards.

:?: Just a question for you before I waste my time describing how mine is mounted -
On the top of your resin top are there 6 flat top chrome things (3 on either side) that appear to do nothing ? They will be recessed into the resin top.

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Post by RockyMan »

Stu.
It's similar setup with 10 chrome knobs ( 5 on either side).
How would you use them to attach roof rack ?
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Post by Rick »

Just got your reply. Took some photos today, but need to get them onto my PC. - Am in the process of rebuilding it.

Re the chrome buttons on the top of your resin top, three of these have been removed on each side and the back half of the rack is bolted to the resin top via aluminium angles through these holes.

Don't know exactly, but strongly suspect that the roof rack is a TJM unit, but the signage is totally faded so can't say for sure. The Bull Bar is definately TJM and has a similar faded sign on it.

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Post by Big-Stu »

Ok, that's what I get when I don't bother looking at my Rocky.

Like I said 5 chrome things on either side.

Now here's what you do, and this is a secret, so don't tell anyone else about it -

You very carefully remove the lining inside the resin top.
Actually you don't have to remove all of it, you just got to get to the ones at the back and the ones at the front.

You will then find some large phillips head screws holding in them chrome things.
You take out the screws and reverse the chrome things so the screws are now on the outside, and the chrome things are now inside the roof.
Hey presto, you now have some very convenient and extremely strong mounting points for your roofrack. Now it was a few years ago, and I seem to remember there was some work needed with a round file to get them to fit "reversed"

When you want to mount the roofrack, you take out the screws and replace them with longer ones that go through some "feet" (with rubber padding so it don't scratch your roof) on your roofrack.

Make sure you always leave the screws in place when no roofrack is fitted or else the water may get inside.

Is it possible to attach an image in this forum?



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Post by *BESTY* »

try attaching without the spaces in the file name

Cheers


If that don't work.....email to andrewkaren@bigpond.com and I will attach to the thread for you
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Post by Big-Stu »

Try again.

I say, I think it works.
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Post by *BESTY* »

Yep....it works.....bit small though :finger:
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Post by Rick »

Have been trying to attach a zip file containing images of my roof rack but to no avail. Anyone got any suggestions. There are 9 images in total at approx 700KB each. All zipped up they are approx 5.5MB or three seperate 1.7MB zips.

Any suggestions?
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Post by *BESTY* »

Reduce the image size to less than 500Kb and post them 3 at a time..

If this isn't woking, as above....email 'em to me (unzipped) and I can resize them for you to post.

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Post by murcod »

Rick wrote:Have been trying to attach a zip file containing images of my roof rack but to no avail. Anyone got any suggestions. There are 9 images in total at approx 700KB each. All zipped up they are approx 5.5MB or three seperate 1.7MB zips.

Any suggestions?
Rick


I think the maximum attachment size is only 100kB- which isn't very big for a photo!

You could try resaving them as a smaller size and as a .jpeg with a higher compression ratio. If that doesn't make sense send them on to Besty (or myself) :D
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Post by Rick »

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Post by RockyMan »

Bloody Excellent. :) :) :) :)
That's what I'm after, great photos too.
Thanks Rick.
I guess its just matter of finding right rack and get some
place that welds Alluminium to modify it to suit Rocky.
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