Hilux IFS Front wheel hub bearings

[V6XtraHilux]

Hey guys,
Had a look thru the Hilux Bible and SEARCH but couldnt find anything definitive about this.

How difficult is it to re-grease the front hub bearings on a Hilux with IFS, specifically an 03 model?

Any special tools apart from the 54mm socket?
If the bearings are shot, or at 80K kms mb I should replace them, do the bearings come in a kit with seals, or are they all separate? Can I get these from Repco, or should I go Toyo genuine?

Anybody got step by step instructions with little helping hints if required?
Would be much appreciative for all the help.

Cheers.

[4sum4]

Easy job and you get a new seal and lock nut washer with the bearings

[ausyota]

Go for aftermarket bearing kits.
Cheap as. And probably made in the same factory as the genuine ones.
And yeah the kits come with seal, lock washer and hub gasket normaly.

[V6XtraHilux]

thanks guys, probably go with after market bearings then

any ideas bout the special tools? do i need to remove the old bearing races? im thinking yeah, any special tools for that?

ive heard about having to setup the backlash on the bearings, how is that done? once again, any special tools? Ive already got a torgue wrench.

thanks

[Gribble]

thanks guys, probably go with after market bearings then

any ideas bout the special tools? do i need to remove the old bearing races? im thinking yeah, any special tools for that?

ive heard about having to setup the backlash on the bearings, how is that done? once again, any special tools? Ive already got a torgue wrench.

thanks

The only special tools you really need are the socket and maybe some snap-ring pliers for the cv. But if you dont have the pliers 2 screwdrivers will sort it out.

You dont need a tourqe wrench for the bearings, the manuals say to tignten it up until you have a starting tourque of 'X'nm. But if you have a little bit of resistence when you turn the hub its ok. Its hard to explain in text though, you really need to develop a feel for it.

[V6XtraHilux]

Guys,
Repco dont have a bearing set for my 03 Hilux V6, say I have to get Toyo genuine. Does anybody know DEFINITLERY if the bearings are the same as the, say, 1998 or 2000 or diesel version, etc. Im suspecting the bearings are the same size for this generation. Any help would be great.

Also, when I pull off the hubs, do I need to provide a new gasket when re-installing?

Thanks again.

[Gribble]

Guys,
Repco dont have a bearing set for my 03 Hilux V6, say I have to get Toyo genuine. Does anybody know DEFINITLERY if the bearings are the same as the, say, 1998 or 2000 or diesel version, etc. Im suspecting the bearings are the same size for this generation. Any help would be great.

Also, when I pull off the hubs, do I need to provide a new gasket when re-installing?

Thanks again.

Try somewhere else other than repco?

[meggs]

I did mine a couple of months ago and replaced an inner bearing. Got the parts from SKF, any bearing place can get the parts for you. Just make sure they are good quality not chinese crap. An inner bearing cup and cone cost me $37.50 and that was good one.

Make sure you also buy new lock tabs (genuine) as that is all that stops the wheel falling off and make sure the locknuts are where you want them before bending over the tabs and then don't touch the locknuts.

I took all day to do both as it is a dirty job but after you are finished you then know what's in your wheels

[V6XtraHilux]

Try somewhere other than Repco? gee, now thats a thought I couldnt have worked out myself!!!

Reason why I asked, was that NO-ONE, not even SKF or CBC can give me a bearing to suit my 03 Hilux, they dont have one specifically for that model, BUT they have them for older models, HENCE why I asked if anybody new if the bearings for my model are the same as the SR5's, the 1998, 2000, models etc. Im imagining that they wouldnt have gone and re-designed the whole front end again, but then again, im sure the front drive shafts are a bit thicker than the older models???

Has anyone done theirs recently AND has a 2001-2004 model??

Again, thanks for all thew help so far.

ps. Any special grease i should get? Will that grey Melondibium (??) do, or is it special grease?? Thanks.

(you can tell I havent done this part on the truck before!!

[meggs]

I think you are worried about nothing. It is highly unlikely that you will have any bearing problem unless they have been through a lot of water. I was in two minds weather I should have changed my bearing as it only had a small mark on the race but as I thought the bearing cheap I changed it.

The books the bearing places have are usually a couple of years behind but I would bet that all the IFS hilux's are the same. Just get in and pull one wheel off get a seal from toyota if necessary and do the job. When you get the wheel off take note of the bearing numbers or use a vernier to measure them and while you are at it measure the seal. I also got a gasket for the freewheeling hubs from Toyota.

The grease I used was Caltex Liplex EP2 buy it in a tube as you will use most of it. I am not pushing caltex but that is where I get my oils and grease from. Liplex LP2 is a high temperature lithuim base grease suitable for wheel bearings and is very tacky.

If you want a bit more technical info just go to the Timken as they have plenty of info for you to read.

Don't forget be careful with that locking tab you bend it both ways and then leave the wheel alone.

By the way mine is 2000 diesel.

[V6XtraHilux]

Thnaks Meggs, I know there really shouldnt be any dramas, but I dont have the luxury of being able to pull a wheel off, get out the old bearing, duck down to the bearing shop and get a replacement, as I only have one car, and will be doing it on the weekend, hence why Id rather get all the parts and do it once only.

I'll duck down to Toyo and get a genuine seal just to be sure as u said, wouldnt hurt (except the wallet at $50 a seal) and get the gasket too.

thanks for the help.

[meggs]

Most important don't forget the locking washer as it is a single use item only. Jeez $50 they don't miss you. Unless you are an expert get a cheap spring weight gauge from the tackle area at Woollies of Kmart and follow the manual as far as preloading is concerned.

You also need plenty of rag as it is a crap job.

[V6XtraHilux]

It was indeed a crap job, mustve gone thru about 6 old shirts getting all the grease out etc.

turns out all the hard work was only in removing the damn seal!! The cone washers were a breeze, the bearings were in good nick, but I replaced one set to see how hard it was, and after smashing the crap out of the end of my brass punches (and leaving some slight...oh so slight, marks on the new bearing races!!!!) , I didnt do the other side cos of that reason, they are all done.

Preload? no idea how that worked out, had no spring gauge, and went by feel only, time will tell.

BTW, my 2003 model required a special size seal on the inner bearing, something about a larger than standard. Peninsula Bearings in Sydney's northern beaches had that sorted before I even knew that they were right!! Thanks guys.


So at the end of the day, all the bearings are done and another learning curve was mounted. Even the girlfriend got down and dirty with the grease for the bearings!!

Again, thanks for all the advice and help, couldnt have done it without u guys.
CHeers

[meggs]

It was indeed a crap job, mustve gone thru about 6 old shirts getting all the grease out etc.

You were told.

Simple job isn't it just time consuming and dirty.

Good that you have a girlfriend who will get her hands dirty.

[V6XtraHilux]

haha, girlfriend only got her hands dirty when it came to NEW grease, not the old dirty stuff!!! but yeah, she gets in amongst it.

BTW, whats the deal with the inner bearing seal?? It was the hardest part of the job pulling that sucker out, seal puller was no help, lever it with a screwdriver over a round bar did nothing, bashing with a screw driver till it was deformed helped some bit, but finally pulling and cursing with a set of pliers was the only way the sucker would come out.....AND.....getting the new one in wasnt that easy either, i think both are a bit worse for wear, few smallish dings in the metal support of the seal, hope their not f&%#ed.

[meggs]

Most inner seals you usually have to destroy to get them out. Big seals can be a bit tricky to get in without the proper tool but with care you can get them in. I saw on one post on another froum where the person damaged 4 seals to do two wheels on a Nissan. The seal should be ok as they are only a grease and dust seal.

If you used the type of grease I used it was pretty bad when new as it was very tacky.