GU Tube bar in 4wd Monthly Magazine

Post by **junr** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:53 pm

Hi Guys,
Issue 90, March 2006 (latest issue) 4wd Monthly magazine- Page 64, there is a pic of a GU plowing through a boghole (no. plate nsw ARB148) with a very neat looking TUBE BULLBAR- does anyone know who makes this one- I like!

Post by **turbogu** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:24 am

if its the one im thinking of, havent got the book in front of me its from Its from macquarie 4x4 in nsw

http://www.macquarie4x4.com.au/

Post by **junr** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:06 pm

Thanx BP- called them and yep- it's one of their bars (no plate actually ARB 14B!)- they're sending me some pics.

Post by **junr** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:08 pm

PS- Do people reckon that with a tube bar, you risk twisting chassis more than a standard Nissan, TJM, ARB bullbar in a medium to serious impact.

Post by **mr Z** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:06 pm

would be interested in seeing any pics you get from them?

Post by **junr** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:28 pm

no worries

Post by **GUJohnno** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:15 pm

That would be this one. Very neat unit.

Post by **bogged** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:17 pm

junr wrote:PS- Do people reckon that with a tube bar, you risk twisting chassis more than a standard Nissan, TJM, ARB bullbar in a medium to serious impact.

Not twisting much, but look at this photo and see how much expensive plastic/panelwork is just itching to get smashed.

I think they probably are seen better for comp trucks where people dont give a shit about panels anyway..

Post by **GUJohnno** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:21 pm

I like the protection to the radiator etc more on this one...

Post by **junr** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:29 am

Thanx heaps for the pics GU Johnno- that thing looks so horn!
Bogged- didn't you see the plastic Nissan bonnet protector??? Heh heh...... agree on the bonnet, light protection, I would get modded with hoops around lights etc and have it sit 50mm further out from bottom of grill/lights with plate on top- then would be purrrfect! Not a big fan of the FAT bars on GUs- look ok on GQs (great concept for holding a highmount winch- no cutting grills!). Most would say- just get an ARB/Nissan joffa- problem is they push up into corner of guard and make a mess if any of the trucks weight is placed onto that outside corner of the bar- been there done that!

Post by **bogged** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:57 am

junr wrote:Bogged- didn't you see the plastic Nissan bonnet protector??? Heh heh...... agree on the bonnet, light protection, I would get modded with hoops around lights etc and have it sit 50mm further out from bottom of grill/lights with plate on top- then would be purrrfect

So you mean a normal ARB winch bar ....

Post by **junr** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:06 am

Have you seen how far out an ARB winch bar sticks out on a GU? Agreed ARB has roo strike protection but like I said though- not strong enough in corners- just twist up into guard and make a mess! Not to mention- OMG crazy heavy!

Post by **bogged** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:52 am

junr wrote:but like I said though- not strong enough in corners- just twist up into guard and make a mess!

What do you think a tube bar would do?

Website · Post by **GRINCH** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:16 am

id have to agree the new arb bars are no where near as strong as what the old ones used to be

Post by **bogged** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:29 am

GRINCH wrote:id have to agree the new arb bars are no where near as strong as what the old ones used to be

to be honest, I havent looked at new arb bars, but what has changed on them?

Post by **junr** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:28 pm

Probably weaker due to modern thinking/ design with crush rates in mind and to suit air-bagged trucks- especially in offset impacts (ie: in the corner).

Post by **bogged** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:58 am

junr wrote:Probably weaker.

so infact, there is probably nothing different with them.

Post by **junr** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:27 pm

I am not flaming other manufacturers- just pointing out what I require. Had an early gq with arb steel bar- lower section (not hoops) was VERY strong- thicker steel but also boxed/rolled on bottom unlike modern version- corners could take weight without bending up significantly- now have nissan alloy (yes weeker than equivalent in steel) but also have mate with nissan steel airbag bar and another with arb steel airbag bar- twist up into guard if any weight applied in corner- can virtually lift by hand! These new bars are obviously designed to collapse more easily than previous older gq bar, so as not to greatly impeed on decelleration rates with air-bagged models (ie: tube bar may collapse less readily resulting in shorter period of decelaration, thus setting off airbags- if still connected!- more readily). If you look at the tube design from Macquarie 4x4 (would have to see in flesh to make final assessment) you will notice the triangulated sections extending out to corners which along with thick walled tube make it inherently stronger particularly in an upwards direction!

Post by **smooooth** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:38 pm

Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks

Post by **RoldIT** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:41 pm

vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks

Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

Post by **OVERKILL ENG** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:14 pm

RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM

Post by **junr** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:16 pm

Thanx for clearing up Sam- can you make bar in manner I described?- Also will it hold weight of car in corners as posted?

Post by **RoldIT** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:38 pm

OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM

Apologies, I was under the impression Vinnie was referring to the pic of the Macqaurie Ute.

Post by **GUJohnno** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:19 am

RoldIT wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM
Apologies, I was under the impression Vinnie was referring to the pic of the Macqaurie Ute.

The bar on the wagon is mine and was made by Stu (Freedom Automotive Technologies) in Bright. He must be talking about the ute...

Post by **RoldIT** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:25 am

GUJohnno wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM
Apologies, I was under the impression Vinnie was referring to the pic of the Macqaurie Ute.
The bar on the wagon is mine and was made by Stu (Freedom Automotive Technologies) in Bright. He must be talking about the ute...

No, they are talking about the pic in 4WD monthly, not the ones in this thread.

Post by **bogged** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:07 pm

RoldIT wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM
Apologies, I was under the impression Vinnie was referring to the pic of the Macqaurie Ute.

Pwned?

Post by **RoldIT** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:22 pm

bogged wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
OVERKILL ENGINEERING wrote:
RoldIT wrote:
vinnie wrote:Without causing any drama's the bar in the picture you are mentioning was actually made by Overkill Engineering it is very similar to the one made by Maquarie.
Just thought i would clear this up.
Thanks
Don't think so ... maybe check your sources on that one.

I think you'll find his source is correct as I built the bar on the wagon beeing discussed.
SAM
Apologies, I was under the impression Vinnie was referring to the pic of the Macqaurie Ute.

Pwned?

That's alright, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Are you?

Post by **bogged** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:16 pm

RoldIT wrote:That's alright, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Are you?

Bought a SHitcati 900ss once, 22 warranty claims in 18 mths including the paint falling off while washing it once, fuel freezing before it got to the carbs....

THAT was WRONG.. VERY WRONG. Should have got the VFR the first time...

Post by **RoldIT** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:41 pm

bogged wrote:
RoldIT wrote:That's alright, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Are you?
Bought a SHitcati 900ss once, 22 warranty claims in 18 mths including the paint falling off while washing it once, fuel freezing before it got to the carbs....

THAT was WRONG.. VERY WRONG. Should have got the VFR the first time...

hehehe ... sux to be you.

Post by **GUJohnno** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:50 am

RoldIT wrote:
bogged wrote:
RoldIT wrote:That's alright, I'm a big enough man to admit when I was wrong. Are you?
Bought a SHitcati 900ss once, 22 warranty claims in 18 mths including the paint falling off while washing it once, fuel freezing before it got to the carbs....

THAT was WRONG.. VERY WRONG. Should have got the VFR the first time...
hehehe ... sux to be you.

very

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