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Post by **jugger** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:03 pm

ok gentalmen i am putting forward 4 choices for engine conversion for my lux these are the choices. currently got a 4y dual cab 33 4.88.

choice 1 :- larger petrol 4 cyl ? NO

choice 2 :- 202 holden 6 ? if i can get any info on this

choice3 :- 3.0 turbo deisel ? NO

choice 4 :- 253 holden v8 ? high maybe run on full lpg

choice 5 :- as stated by emo 3.8 v6 ? to much to go wrong.
there they are guys pls help choose as saving have to start soon so i need to get the pricing and planning happen real soon .

Post by **skootin** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:11 pm

If you want to stay petrol 3RZ Fe would be a good choice EFI 2.7l you can pickup a wrecked 2wd for the engine they auction yards.

Post by **hokey** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:31 pm

5M-E, 7M-GE, 22RE. an M engine would go pretty well. 1G-GZE perhaps?

Post by **jugger** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:26 pm

kool . ne of the things was simplicity aswell . and those engines sound complecated. i dont know are they complicated engines?

Post by **high n mighty** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:31 pm

When I blew an engine up in darwin the mechanic suggested they fit a 202 to my 90model ln106, I laughed in his face.

Commo V6's are very common and cheap these days though. 83Lux decided on some sort of toyota 4cyl for his though.

Post by **daveo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:49 pm

think that the 3.0td (1KZ-TE) is a fly by wire job, ie tricky electrics. just something to consider.

beebee (i think) has a 3RZ in his rig, reckons its the ducks nuts IIRC

Post by **jugger** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:53 pm

kewl any body know anybody that has put a 202 in a lux it would be interesting as theres only a few thousad sitting around

Post by **Emo** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:59 pm

choice5 - Holden 3.8 litre v6.

You know it makes sense.

Post by **jugger** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:13 pm

yeah would like to but its in the realms of complecated for my mechanical genies like me . ive hear that to get a good job done its in the area of $10000 inc motor and box . i like the idea but it needs to be simple cause it will be me doing as much as ican my self .

but good call on the choice 5

Post by **ash_on_mtb** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:22 pm

202!!! You could fill it half water/half oil and it would still run. And run... and run. So long as the middle eastern countries keep truckin oil that is...

Post by **whiteknight** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:22 pm

jugger wrote:kewl any body know anybody that has put a 202 in a lux it would be interesting as theres only a few thousad sitting around

when i was looking around to buy mine i saw a couple and drove one just to see how it went, wasnt too bad although not sure how it would go offroad. There aint a lot of room lengthwise in the engine bay once this sucker is in.

Post by **jugger** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:28 pm

yeah i was thinkn that to . but would run on lpg so the angle thing is coverd . and a remote radiator if set up rite could improve cooling capabilites me thinks .

well chat tomorrow i wanna check out your high steer and ask some qestions bout it . whtknight.

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:40 am

come on keep it in the family. you can find plenty of wrecked cressidas that will have a 7M-GE in there and you can just use the whole loom. they are great motor with plenty of torque. and complete 1G-GTE engines with wiring can be bought from an importer for no more than 1500. supercharged is the same price. be different and keep it toyota mate

Post by **v840** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:58 am

hokey wrote:5M-E, 7M-GE, 22RE. an M engine would go pretty well. 1G-GZE perhaps?

I agree with Hokey. Any of these engines would be killer. Just to throw a spanner in the works though, have you thought about a 1UZ-FE? 6 bolt mains, quad-cam, 185kw as standard! Plenty of people have done the conversion and I havent heard of anyone not loving it.
Maybe shoot TWISTY_TOY94 a PM. He's done it to his 4Runner.

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:04 am

1UZ-FE might be a bit complicated. to be contrary to what i just said if people want V8 power and low down i don't know why they waste time on these engines. get a 350 and it will piss all over one of these. 1UZ-FE's are quite cheap though. and have bulletproof bottom ends and we all know what they are good for

Post by **MARKx4** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:17 am

Have a look at www.v6conversions.com.au they do a good kit, we put one of there kits into my mates rodeo a couple of years ago. They were very helpfull. Why dont you look at putting a toyota V8 in aswell?

Post by **v840** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:20 pm

hokey wrote:1UZ-FE might be a bit complicated. to be contrary to what i just said if people want V8 power and low down i don't know why they waste time on these engines. get a 350 and it will piss all over one of these. 1UZ-FE's are quite cheap though. and have bulletproof bottom ends and we all know what they are good for

Isnt he in QLD? I didnt think it was possible to get a 350 engineered up there? Lexus engines are cheap, powerful and less heavy than the chev. Plus they can be engineered.

I dont know this for sure, just what I heard.

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:40 pm

they just don't have the torque an low down that only american V8's can provide. but yes probably to big capacity wise to be engineered. M engines would be great in there.

Post by **TWISTY** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:39 pm

hokey wrote:they just don't have the torque an low down that only american V8's can provide. but yes probably to big capacity wise to be engineered. M engines would be great in there.

The Lexus V8 would be my pick....but I'm a bit Bias......They are a awesome engine, and the conversion is not complicated at all....I pulled mine off for just over $6000....but the more you can do yourself, the cheaper it'll be.....I paid $2000 just to have the the motor/gearbox mounted....which could have been done for half that.

As for the torque down low, yeah, fair enough, the 1UZ reaches peak torque at like 5500rpm....but it still has more than double what the old donk used to have down low, so it is by no means a problem at all.

Compliance in QLD is a piece if cake too!! I couldn't believe how easy it was....A 15min inspection and $80 later and you are all legit!!

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:09 pm

Back on topic tho i think you should consider some of the above mentioned toyota engines. they are all big capacity and will have great torque. the are very cheap aswell.

Post by **jugger** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:07 pm

hokey wrote:come on keep it in the family. you can find plenty of wrecked cressidas that will have a 7M-GE in there and you can just use the whole loom. they are great motor with plenty of torque. and complete 1G-GTE engines with wiring can be bought from an importer for no more than 1500. supercharged is the same price. be different and keep it toyota mate

how easy to bolt up ? do they just bolt to the box or is threre an adapta plate involved? the same as that lexus v8 one is that bolt up or is there a plat involved

and i would love to put a 383 alloy stroker in but i dont think qld has come out of the dark ages yet 308 i think is pushing it and u have to get the rite person on the rite day.

Post by **jugger** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:08 pm

hokey wrote:come on keep it in the family. you can find plenty of wrecked cressidas that will have a 7M-GE in there and you can just use the whole loom. they are great motor with plenty of torque. and complete 1G-GTE engines with wiring can be bought from an importer for no more than 1500. supercharged is the same price. be different and keep it toyota mate

how easy to bolt up ? do they just bolt to the box or is threre an adapta plate involved? the same as that lexus v8 one is that bolt up or is there a plat involved

and i would love to put a 383 alloy stroker in but i dont think qld has come out of the dark ages yet 308 i think is pushing it and u have to get the rite person on the rite day.

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:43 pm

what gearbox do you have in there atm??? i don't know what will bolt up but if you tell me i can find out.

Post by **Tomolux** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:52 pm

5L engine is the biggest u can put in a lux without a engineers report/ certificate. in QLD

just need a mod plate for anything smaller.

i'm gettin my boss to do one for my 1uz

Post by **jugger** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:04 pm

hokey wrote:what gearbox do you have in there atm??? i don't know what will bolt up but if you tell me i can find out.

its a yn67 1984 plated not sure on the box number but its a 5 speed .

Post by **jugger** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:05 pm

Tomolux wrote:5L engine is the biggest u can put in a lux without a engineers report/ certificate. in QLD

just need a mod plate for anything smaller.

i'm gettin my boss to do one for my 1uz

thanks tommo but i can dream of a 383 alloy stroker . but me thinks i may kill my self bit to much power.

Post by **hokey** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:48 pm

i would not have a clue what gearbox that is. is the transfer mounted onto the box or are they seperate?

Post by **jugger** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:12 pm

hokey wrote:i would not have a clue what gearbox that is. is the transfer mounted onto the box or are they seperate?

on the box .

Post by **hokey** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:46 am

when u find out what box you have i can tell you which gearbox u need. if u have an R1X then you will need the bellhousing out of an MA70 supra. if it is a G5X then you will need the bellhousing that comes infront of a W58 so out of MA61 supras

Post by **hokey** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:38 pm

Incorrect information about the R1X gearbox sorry. if you have an R151 then the MA70 bellhousing won't work as ur input shaft is 10mm to long. other information still stands.

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