Nissan starter in a Holden V8/Patrol conversion?

[Vulcanised]

I bought the Marks Kit for the conversion which i am going to start on tomorrow...... nothing was mentioned about using a Holden starter... and one didn't come with the motor...... i'm guessing that the nissan starter won't mesh with the Holden manual flywheel?? no major drama, i can get one on monday...... just wish it was mentioned on the web site or in the kit instructions if that is the case.

[hillbilly]

Manuals use a flywheel
Auto's use a flex plate
Brand new from Holden, starter motors to suit vn type motors are $165.
Some of the wreckers I approached quoted nearly this price for some secondhand filthy 8 year old starter ripped straight off a wreck.
Go figure.

[SLOGQ]

Also, the nissan starter bolts to the gearbox, the holden starter bolts to the engine block on the passenger side of the engine. There would be no way a nissan starter would work with a holden flywheel.

Did u get starter motor bolts with the engine? If not, you will have to get the right ones, probobly genuine. If you dont get the right bolts, you can have alignment problems with the starter.

Hope this saves you some trouble mate.......

[Vulcanised]

Manuals use a flywheel
Auto's use a flex plate
Brand new from Holden, starter motors to suit vn type motors are $165.
Some of the wreckers I approached quoted nearly this price for some secondhand filthy 8 year old starter ripped straight off a wreck.
Go figure.

with the marks kit... you use both.... the holden manual flywheel, and a spacer back to the Nissan flex plate. Looks like i'll be buying a starter for it. It's a shame that the spares department isn't open saturdays...... i'll take pics as i go.

[awill4x4]

with the marks kit... you use both.... the holden manual flywheel, and a spacer back to the Nissan flex plate. Looks like i'll be buying a starter for it. It's a shame that the spares department isn't open saturdays...... i'll take pics as i go.

I was talking to the mechanic next door who has done a few odd conversions and he said you may need to balance the flywheel/spacer/flex plate assembly. If not vibration "may" be a problem. He was also a bit concerned about the rotating mass and felt the engine may feel a bit lazy spinning up the extra mass but he thought it should be good when up to speed as that extra mass should be better in maintaining momentum.
Regards Andrew.

[Screwy]

You need a starter motor for a holden V8 i think the bocsh part number is bxh236 but dont qoute me.......

you need the 2 bolts also.
you can buy these after market at repco as well as the starter motor.

the bolts are a bosch part number just like the starter and only a few dollars each, nearly every repco should stock them. they have special ribbs on them to prevent them coming undone also. its a long part number starting with a 9.

repco will have wat u need.
and they are open sundays

screwy

[Vulcanised]

got a Bosch from repco this morning for $200..... no bolts though, but they are 7/16 UNC bolts..... i got some high tensile bolts from work..... will fit it up tomorrow..... got the engine mounts sorted.... and welded in. Tomorrow the engine goes in permanently, and all the fiddly shit starts.

[bru21]

marks kit having instructions ha ha ha very funny thought!

[Vulcanised]

marks kit having instructions ha ha ha very funny thought!

they do have instrcutions.... a little basic, but they do lead you in the right direction..... the wiring harness instructions are a little more comprehensive. The Marks kit was a shit load better than what Dellow were offering.

[Vulcanised]

He was also a bit concerned about the rotating mass and felt the engine may feel a bit lazy spinning up the extra mass but he thought it should be good when up to speed as that extra mass should be better in maintaining momentum.
Regards Andrew.

looking at it after we pulled everything out, the Nissan torque converter is a lot smaller than the OE Holden one..... so overall i don't think there will be much of a weight difference. And i don't really need it to rev fast... just lots of torque down low.

I was also discussin torque figures with a couple of guys, and they assure me that the 5.0 litre has better low down torque than the 1uz lexus.... i might have to do a search and see if i can find some figures.

[Screwy]

He was also a bit concerned about the rotating mass and felt the engine may feel a bit lazy spinning up the extra mass but he thought it should be good when up to speed as that extra mass should be better in maintaining momentum.
Regards Andrew.

looking at it after we pulled everything out, the Nissan torque converter is a lot smaller than the OE Holden one..... so overall i don't think there will be much of a weight difference. And i don't really need it to rev fast... just lots of torque down low.

I was also discussin torque figures with a couple of guys, and they assure me that the 5.0 litre has better low down torque than the 1uz lexus.... i might have to do a search and see if i can find some figures.

yeh definatly correct. the holden motor and chevs have more torque than the lexus V8.

[marko]

Hey
Im currently putting a Vn ss 5lt into a mavrick. The engine is in and bolted up. Im up to the stage of the exhaust system. Ive read most of the post about this conversion but nobody really talks about the exstractors. As far as i can see i can not use of the shelf items.Is this correct? Looks like I will have to run the headers on the drivers side under the forward part of the sump Because there will hit the drive shaft. Ive been quoted $800 to make just the exstractors. Has any body done something differant. Or know any body who wants to sell a pair that fits. Any help would be great

[Vulcanised]

Hey
Im currently putting a Vn ss 5lt into a mavrick. The engine is in and bolted up. Im up to the stage of the exhaust system. Ive read most of the post about this conversion but nobody really talks about the exstractors. As far as i can see i can not use of the shelf items.Is this correct? Looks like I will have to run the headers on the drivers side under the forward part of the sump Because there will hit the drive shaft. Ive been quoted $800 to make just the exstractors. Has any body done something differant. Or know any body who wants to sell a pair that fits. Any help would be great

The motor i'm using is out of a VP.... it has the extractor type headers as standard, and they hug the block fairly well..... haven't looked at how it's going to run... i'll leave that to the Zorst guy... his loss if it's a drama, he stuck his head under the Patrol and said it won't cost me any more than $400 for the single 2 1/2" system with a high flow sports muffler. I am having major dramas at the moment with the wiring and shit...... giving me a nervous breakdown at the moment.

The zorst on the passenger side.......


I have to lengthen the pipe from the collector down about 6" because the flange plate hits on the adaptor and is very close to the chassis.

[marko]

I think you will find the left hand side standard headers will run straight into the clutch slave cylinder. But If useing an auto, the headers should fit I think. But if using manual box, there is very little room between the bell housing and shaft. I guess If your running a big lift, you may have more room.

[Vulcanised]

i'm running a bit of lift, including 2" body..... i'm fitting it to the Patrol auto.... and the flange hits the adaptor..... had to grind a little off it..... but i have decided to extend the pipe a bit