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Highlift Mounting
Highlift Mounting
I've inherited a highlift jack - any ideas where/how I can mount it on the Jimny?
Trying to keep it outside the vehicle.
Trying to keep it outside the vehicle.
DRS smells like a cat-food milkshake... and wet socks... and gorgonzola cheese... all whizzed up in a blender
wonder if you could adapt this hi Lift jack holder http://www.oppositelock.com.au/redesign ... emID=RMAJM on to your bullbar? might keep the COG lower a bit than on the side of the roof rack.
Mines mounted on the back of my spare wheel holder, and I put my spare wheel on the roof rack.
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Sorry if this seems like a stupid thing to say, never mind where you can put it, but where can you use it?
Most modern bullbars don't have enough flat edges to take the jack securely, and there is nowhere else on a jimny that you could lift off (or most other cars for that matter.) yes you can use bull bar adapters, but these are not really the ideal place to be lifting one wheel from, and what do you do to lift the rear?
Highlift jacks are amongst the most dangerous tools that 4WDers use - mostly because if used conventionally you have to unload the suspension of the car to get a wheel in the air, which means that the whole car comes up and both tyres on that side/end of the car get unweighted. Also, when they start to fall off of the jack the tend to go slow so the reaction is to try and stop it. I have also seen poeple smacked in the face by the handle when lowering the car.
On another note, if jacking off a slider, the top of the jack tend to want to get all over the door unless the slider is a really long way away from the sill.
I have had cars fall off of hilifts in the shed, on perfectly flat concrete. tHe only way I will use one off road is if the axle to be lifted is chained to the chassis at ride height. That way you only need to lift the car the height required, not the height required plus full droop.
I guess they can be used as a recovery tool, but if there is another car with you, you would always go for a snatch before stuffing around with a hilift packing under the wheels.
Squik, if you have inherited a genuine Hilift, (removable handle, bolted footplate) you can strip the jack down very quickly and store most of it neatly in the car. If stored outside the car they tend to get jammed up with dust and they take a while to free up before you can use them anyway.
We did this with a clubmembers car when he was doing cape york- the whole jack dissapeared into the storage bins in the back of his sierra. If you bolt it onto the car somewhere in one piece, the stuffing around involved in getting it off the car usually isn't worth it, someone will pull out a bottle jack and have the wheel in the air before the hilift is off and scaring everyone.
PS back in the day, hilifts were like lights on the roof are now... a hardcore sticker. Every 40 series and every car with a Kaymar rear bar had to have a hilift (because they were easy to mount) but if you asked these guys to get them off, they'd stuff around forever looking for the key to the padlock, then the lock would be rustly, then they couldn't find the spanner for the bolts, then the bolts were rusty and then after they had got the thing off, it was jammed solid with dust and the didn't know how to use it anyway
Steve
Most modern bullbars don't have enough flat edges to take the jack securely, and there is nowhere else on a jimny that you could lift off (or most other cars for that matter.) yes you can use bull bar adapters, but these are not really the ideal place to be lifting one wheel from, and what do you do to lift the rear?
Highlift jacks are amongst the most dangerous tools that 4WDers use - mostly because if used conventionally you have to unload the suspension of the car to get a wheel in the air, which means that the whole car comes up and both tyres on that side/end of the car get unweighted. Also, when they start to fall off of the jack the tend to go slow so the reaction is to try and stop it. I have also seen poeple smacked in the face by the handle when lowering the car.
On another note, if jacking off a slider, the top of the jack tend to want to get all over the door unless the slider is a really long way away from the sill.
I have had cars fall off of hilifts in the shed, on perfectly flat concrete. tHe only way I will use one off road is if the axle to be lifted is chained to the chassis at ride height. That way you only need to lift the car the height required, not the height required plus full droop.
I guess they can be used as a recovery tool, but if there is another car with you, you would always go for a snatch before stuffing around with a hilift packing under the wheels.
Squik, if you have inherited a genuine Hilift, (removable handle, bolted footplate) you can strip the jack down very quickly and store most of it neatly in the car. If stored outside the car they tend to get jammed up with dust and they take a while to free up before you can use them anyway.
We did this with a clubmembers car when he was doing cape york- the whole jack dissapeared into the storage bins in the back of his sierra. If you bolt it onto the car somewhere in one piece, the stuffing around involved in getting it off the car usually isn't worth it, someone will pull out a bottle jack and have the wheel in the air before the hilift is off and scaring everyone.
PS back in the day, hilifts were like lights on the roof are now... a hardcore sticker. Every 40 series and every car with a Kaymar rear bar had to have a hilift (because they were easy to mount) but if you asked these guys to get them off, they'd stuff around forever looking for the key to the padlock, then the lock would be rustly, then they couldn't find the spanner for the bolts, then the bolts were rusty and then after they had got the thing off, it was jammed solid with dust and the didn't know how to use it anyway
Steve
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Agree 100% with steve on the safety side, my hilux fell off the high lift a couple of weeks ago.
Did have the wheel and tyre underneath the diff so didn't fall far but none the less they're not the safest things to use.
Did have the wheel and tyre underneath the diff so didn't fall far but none the less they're not the safest things to use.
[quote="Harb"]Well I'm guessing that they didn't think everyone would carry on like a big bunch of sooky girls over it like they have........[/quote]
i have also used it as a hand winch it works a treat when you dont have anything else.
I used to carry mine on my spare tyre holder but it chewed the studs out so i dont think its worth it.
Maybe just me but it has done it mounting up/down and sideways
So be carefull of that
I dont have a bull bar and i just stick it under my stock front and rear bars they hold up fine with it the car isnt really heavy enough to cause much damage if any.
Your choice in the end though
I used to carry mine on my spare tyre holder but it chewed the studs out so i dont think its worth it.
Maybe just me but it has done it mounting up/down and sideways
So be carefull of that
I dont have a bull bar and i just stick it under my stock front and rear bars they hold up fine with it the car isnt really heavy enough to cause much damage if any.
Your choice in the end though
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you could cable tie it to your chassis rail!!
or put it on the bonnet, but if you did this then you would have to have a shovel on there, and possibly a spare tyre as this would be really hardcore!
but then having a smiley face on your rear diff is not all that hardcore is it!!
ha ha
i'm sorry its late.
enjoy ashley
or put it on the bonnet, but if you did this then you would have to have a shovel on there, and possibly a spare tyre as this would be really hardcore!
but then having a smiley face on your rear diff is not all that hardcore is it!!
ha ha
i'm sorry its late.
enjoy ashley
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THe magor things to conider are
1: ease and speed of getting at it when needed. Taking into account it may be wet, cold and muddy where you put it, and you may well be in a bog hole with your jack below water line.
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2: Safety, including visibility, crash safety, pedestrian safety and occupant safety. A hi lift smack in the head can be offensive.
3: Will it be easy to steal from car parks etc.
4: can you get at it for a self defence use
christover
1: ease and speed of getting at it when needed. Taking into account it may be wet, cold and muddy where you put it, and you may well be in a bog hole with your jack below water line.
.2: Safety, including visibility, crash safety, pedestrian safety and occupant safety. A hi lift smack in the head can be offensive.
3: Will it be easy to steal from car parks etc.
4: can you get at it for a self defence use
christover
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Or buy a Series 1 Landygermo wrote:you could cable tie it to your chassis rail!!
or put it on the bonnet, but if you did this then you would have to have a shovel on there, and possibly a spare tyre as this would be really hardcore!
but then having a smiley face on your rear diff is not all that hardcore is it!!
ha ha
i'm sorry its late.
enjoy ashley
Will it fit just inside your tailgate? You want to keep it clean so that it operates correctly. I'm planning on mounting mine to my rollbar when I make that.
Ok...so ready the stuff on highlift jack dangers:
What are the other options for the wheel removal/jacking of lifted vehicles?
If there aren't any other better options, why hasn't someone come up with one.
In hindsight, this is actually a serious issue
What are the other options for the wheel removal/jacking of lifted vehicles?
If there aren't any other better options, why hasn't someone come up with one.
In hindsight, this is actually a serious issue
DRS smells like a cat-food milkshake... and wet socks... and gorgonzola cheese... all whizzed up in a blender
Some people ratchet strap the axle to chassis, so hi lift only has to lift a small amount, to get wheel clear of the ground. This is much safer.Squik wrote:Ok...so ready the stuff on highlift jack dangers:
What are the other options for the wheel removal/jacking of lifted vehicles?
If there aren't any other better options, why hasn't someone come up with one.
In hindsight, this is actually a serious issue
Also proper hi lift jack points can be fitted, tho if fitted at the side you can still risk panel damage.
Keeping all body parts out of harms way is wise. Keep other people clear, too, if you care
Strong gloves is wise, so a whack from the handle hurts less....but keep head away from handle, unless you have a very good helmet on.
I don't have a hi lift, I use a small trolley jack, with a block of wood, cos it don't even reach the axle without it. Portable wheel chocks exist, saves looking for logs.
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