Airshock setup

Post by **antt** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:39 pm

just wondering who's experimented with heavier weight oil in their airshocks and what were your results? from what i can gather, 5w is the standard that they come with. has anyone tried filling them with 7 or 10w? if so, how much of it did you run to what pressure?

Post by **POS** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:58 pm

antt wrote:just wondering who's experimented with heavier weight oil in their airshocks and what were your results? from what i can gather, 5w is the standard that they come with. has anyone tried filling them with 7 or 10w? if so, how much of it did you run to what pressure?

15 Weight!

If you get really keen you can even buy a Valve kit for them and then you can start playing around with them even more!

Post by **antt** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:16 pm

15w hey, will have to give that a try and maybe max oil volume

i'm not that anal about the setup of them, so wont worry about valving kits just yet

Post by **jeep97tj** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:35 pm

I run 7.5w and mine are 1" over full and i think i still want more oil, so if 10w is ok to put i them i might go that way.

I thought 7.5w was the max though???

Post by **Wendle** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:44 pm

i would think you can experiment with them fairly safely, i don't think 90w gear oil would hurt them ROFL. they seem pretty tough.
i put a dent in one of mine and the piston has slowly but surely pushed it back out. can't even see where it was now.

Post by **not not** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:30 pm

350mm of 15w in mine with about 1700kpa of nitrogen in mine with weight of buggy the front have 3.5inch of upward travel and the rear 4.5inch. With less oil they felt really bouncy.

Post by **antt** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:34 pm

what size are yours not not?

gonna get some 15w and try it out tomorrow.

Post by **not not** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:22 pm

Still the 14inch but have been fully rebuilt. ( about $40 per kit with shroder valve) I played around with them for bloody ages with all diffrent weights of oil starting with the 5w. If after some good info ring cam from racer inports and ask for Dions number as hes very good with diagnosing set up probs over the phone. Oh and he will fill ya with heaps of info you dont really need aswell
Cheers Jamie

Post by **OnPatrol** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:34 pm

Let us know whether heavier oil gives better ride. I have a pair of fox smoothies in the rear of the Patrol and because of the weight of the vehicle the shocks needs more compression. Valves were already changed.

Post by **ljxtreem** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:39 pm

Wendle wrote:i would think you can experiment with them fairly safely, i don't think 90w gear oil would hurt them ROFL. they seem pretty tough.
i put a dent in one of mine and the piston has slowly but surely pushed it back out. can't even see where it was now.

Hmmm, hope my dint pushes out too

yeah, hevy oil or lots whatever, I like mine hard

Mock

Post by **antt** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:47 pm

they're pretty sturdy. this is a pic of a mates cruiser, that was driven about 1.5kays with the weight of the front left corner leaning against the side of the saw airshock. didnt bend it, and hasn't leak since

Post by **not not** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:11 pm

That was after the welding in a far left paddock episode wasnt it Antt?

Post by **antt** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:20 pm

thats the one

Post by **POS** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:01 pm

not not wrote:350mm of 15w in mine .

In a 14" travel shock

She'd be damn full!!!!

Post by **redzook** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:03 am

POS wrote:
not not wrote:350mm of 15w in mine .
In a 14" travel shock She'd be damn full!!!!

i just find it intresting that he measures a liquid in millmeters

Post by **RUFF** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:15 am

POS wrote:
not not wrote:350mm of 15w in mine .
In a 14" travel shock She'd be damn full!!!!

Not Quite he would still have enough room to get 5mm of gas in there

Post by **80lsy gq** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:21 am

leave NotNot alone you cruel people.....

Post by **not not** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:43 pm

Funny farkers arnt you all

Ok Ok Ok 350mls

Post by **-Mandy-** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:53 pm

Some people just aren't very individual are they

How shit seeing 2 of the same avatars.

antt, i reckon you should airshock the front as well, we have 4 brand new 16's sitting at home, come try them out

If you need any advice on them, Rod knows a fair bit, basically mirror image of not not's post. How do you think he "knows".

Cept liquid mass in measured in mls all along

Post by **DamTriton** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:02 pm

-Mandy- wrote:Some people just aren't very individual are they

How shit seeing 2 of the same avatars.

antt, i reckon you should airshock the front as well, we have 4 brand new 16's sitting at home, come try them out

If you need any advice on them, Rod knows a fair bit, basically mirror image of not not's post. How do you think he "knows".

Cept liquid mass in measured in mls all along

Liquid volume measured in ml, if we're being pedantic

Post by **-Mandy-** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:05 pm

DAMKIA wrote:
-Mandy- wrote:Some people just aren't very individual are they

How shit seeing 2 of the same avatars.

antt, i reckon you should airshock the front as well, we have 4 brand new 16's sitting at home, come try them out

If you need any advice on them, Rod knows a fair bit, basically mirror image of not not's post. How do you think he "knows".

Cept liquid mass in measured in mls all along
Liquid volume measured in ml, if we're being pedantic

Thanks hunny

We could just all try and be the same by being "cool", but that would just be boring.

Liquid covers a mass of an area

antt, I reckon you should get rid of the airshox and go coilovers

They look heaps sexier...Gawd only knows you need that

...actually now i think about it...ALL of you's should....

jk

Post by **antt** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:04 pm

settle down missy

i'm just gonna fill em with 15w and see how they go. cant be any worse than they are at the moment. binds up like a mofo with the welded rear on concrete

Post by **mud4b** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:51 pm

-Mandy- wrote:

If you need any advice on them, Rod knows a fair bit, basically mirror image of not not's post. How do you think he "knows".

mandy i might have to hit rod up in a few months for this as i really have no idea on these things....

Post by **not not** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:06 pm

Thanks Mandy but you may need glasses as they are diffrent!
As far as the air shox go every thing ive learnt about them has been from reserch and asking the right people ie cam from racer and dion from race shock development. They are the people who helped me out with info on rebuilding the 14s as they were way past due with very leaky seals and not many people at all have ever tryed to rebuild air shox that i know of. But antt as far as setting them up everyone has there own opinion on how to set them up and how/why they like them a certain way. Take all the info you can get and find your own medium.
And speaking of shocks Mandy?
Cheers Jamie

Post by **-Mandy-** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:34 pm

notnot wrote:And speaking of shocks Mandy?

Yeh, i'm running coilovers. Point being??

Ohh the ones that were up to you to come and pick up that are probably still sitting at our old place outside on the footpath??

Not mine, so wasn't responsible for transporting them in the move, was mentioned that they needed to be collected

Post by **not not** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:45 pm

Oh you mean the message after you had moved that didnt state they they were left there if indeed they were. And i am pretty shore they wernt left there at all.

Post by **redzook** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:48 pm

see that PM button just below each others posts?

Post by **antt** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:56 pm

not not wrote:antt as far as setting them up everyone has there own opinion on how to set them up and how/why they like them a certain way

yeah for sure. watchin and speakin to chris today bout his, he only runs 7w, and it works alright for him in his

Post by **not not** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:10 pm

That would be roctoy? If so did he give you any idea on what volume of oil?
How have you been filling them with nitrogen? Or do you have your own bottle and regulator setup allready? If playing around with them to get what seems right to you i would suggest getting a bottle setup with a good reg if you dont allready have one. Will set you back about $600 odd dollers but at least there is no fuss when wanting to adjust pressure or refill them for what ever reason.
Cheers Jamie

Post by **Rod Dirt'e** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:16 pm

Reg will cost you about $285 (shop around)
and Bottle per year $155 plus refills

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