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anyone with a 1.3L carby 16 Valve engine

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anyone with a 1.3L carby 16 Valve engine

Post by josh9465 »

i have heard about the low km's imports of the 16V engine that bolts straight up to a sierra gearbox.

anyone out there whos had this engine put in.

is there a difference in power.
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Post by mud4b »

its a g13bb.


but its the carby bit that has me stuffed?

maybe out of a swift?
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Post by nicbeer »

Arnt the BB's all efi or are some of them carb.

If so do a search as discussed before a couple times.

Let me know what Prices u get as i am after one as well in Perth. May save a bit of post sending a couple...

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Post by mud4b »

nicbeer wrote:Arnt the BB's all efi or are some of them carb.

If so do a search as discussed before a couple times.

Let me know what Prices u get as i am after one as well in Perth. May save a bit of post sending a couple...

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yup they are all efi...
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Post by nicbeer »

I have a carby and intake manifold at home that i believe is off a G13BB,

Mark, would you know by pics what it may be off? I know from memory that it has oval intakes in the manifold.

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Post by josh9465 »

well sukukishop in cannington told me they can get hold of import 16v Carby motors that bolt straight on. and if u want to efi it u can later.

but the cheapest option was to go with the import engine use ur same carby, they make an adapter plate to suit the stock carby.

they also put vitara extractors. but still 1.3L. just 16V. $3000 to fit all up if they do it.
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Post by mud4b »

nicbeer wrote:I have a carby and intake manifold at home that i believe is off a G13BB,

Mark, would you know by pics what it may be off? I know from memory that it has oval intakes in the manifold.

Nic
yup prolly would..

sounds like a swift.. the vits have the same shape but with a half circle cutout above it (make any sense)
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Post by mud4b »

josh9465 wrote:well sukukishop in cannington told me they can get hold of import 16v Carby motors that bolt straight on. and if u want to efi it u can later.

but the cheapest option was to go with the import engine use ur same carby, they make an adapter plate to suit the stock carby.

they also put vitara extractors. but still 1.3L. just 16V. $3000 to fit all up if they do it.
very interresting... are you sure its not single point injection as it looks similar to a carb?

for that price it sounds very good.
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Post by nicbeer »

Kewl, will try get some photos.

Mark- Have you got any G13BB's in at the moment or coming in?

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Post by josh9465 »

nope definately said wasnt efi. cause the first option was the easiest/cheapest. plus i didnt have to wire an efi. which i have no idea how.

engine swap i can manage.........just!

apparently the guy at arb osb pk had one of these engines put it. if anyone knows him.
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Post by mud4b »

nicbeer wrote:Kewl, will try get some photos.

Mark- Have you got any G13BB's in at the moment or coming in?

Nic
only mine but its for the buggy..
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Post by joeblow »

ok.unless its a g13bb efi than there is no such thing as a 1.3 16 valve.1.6 16 valves came out for the german and canadian markets with a carby that ran the same pressure as an efi.otherwise they were all mpi or throttle body.any queries or photos e mail me.ihave all workshop manuals on cd rom.
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Post by Gutless »

are you sure its not a G13BA 16v SOHC MPI motor?? Its full fuel injection with 16v vit head and it was fitted to coilies in japan. This is the only 16V 1.3L motor in existance that I am aware of.
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Post by joeblow »

heres a couple of photos of a 1.6 16 valvle throttle body conversion i did a while ago.
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Post by Rotazuk »

Never heard or seen a 1.3 16v carby but would not be surprised if one was made for the local japan market . Also may be out of a swift etc . I have a 1.6 16v carb motor in teh shed at the moment , out of teh swift . Would make for an easy conversion if you wanted to stay away from efi .

I got it for the head to replace a 1.6 16v efi head but they are different , ports are different for the injector etc . Bugger eh .

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Post by joeblow »

if you plan on engineering your zook make sure its a 16 valve efi as the 16 valve carby does not comply with australian design rules.
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Post by mud4b »

hang on i think everone is getting mixed up here...


the original; post was a 1.3lt 16v carby engine...

now everyone is talking about 1.6 either single point throttle body or throttle body(same thing as a single point) or the multi point.
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Post by Santos »

Nothing on the Suzuki Japan website shows a G13 with 16v and a carby.
(in fact anything after like 1990 is single point efi instead of carby, australia really milked the carbies way past their used by date.)

Still here's a thought
If you wanted to carby a EFI G13bb (early jimny and current carry motor) .

The old Swift sedan 1.6l were 16v singlepoint right?
So perharps you can get the intake manifold from that and put a carby on it?

Be nice to see this engine carby 16 if it exist though.. know it's history.
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Post by nicbeer »

I got Pics.

G13BB carby. Confirmed by Drew. JAP Import AFAIK

as per below.

Any more pics - Ask.

Nic

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Post by Santos »

Cool, not where in the world was the g13bb carby available?

The port's look like the ones on a DOHC... anyone here know if the inlet manifold gasket for the G13B DOHC and the g13BB sOCH are interchangible?

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Post by josh9465 »

so the guy at suzukishop was correct. he did say with the 16V 1.3L there was more power than the 8V 1.3L.

dont know how much tho. how much more could u get from an extra 8Vs?
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Post by joeblow »

The port's look like the ones on a DOHC... anyone here know if the inlet manifold gasket for the G13B DOHC and the g13BB sOCH are interchangible?


same gasket as 1.6 16 valve swift throttle body.
looks like a nicer carb than the ausie version.mmmmmm....i hate carbies.
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Post by Santos »

dont know how much tho. how much more could u get from an extra 8Vs?
Well a mazda b6 8v carb engine has 61kw, and a mazda 16v carb engine has 64kw.


I think there would be other things to consider when you compare the g13b 8v and g13bb 16v you got things to consider like compression ratio, cam, etc etc.
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