help with motor

Post by **bluezook** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:30 am

hi all i have 2 ways of going about this can you tell me what is the best way as i dont have much money i have $800

1 i can get a 1.6L carby for 400 (dont know what its like) and the bolt in kit for 350 and ill get a mate to change the mount so it will cost me $750 if all gose to plan

or

2 i can get the single point injection for the 1.3L for $300 with everything.as my motor is in very good condition and then later on ill supercharge it if i go this way ill save money so i can do more to the gaering as well

can someone help me

Post by **PJ.zook** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:37 am

Personally, i would go the throttle body injection if you can get everything for the $300 you mention. Firstly because it gets rid of the bloody carby which is great in a 4x4, and you will also have money left over for maybe a set of extractors, or some spotties, etc...

Post by **bluezook** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:42 am

i think that will be my best way

Post by **joeblow** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:36 am

don't waste money on a 1.3.go the 1600 and you will love it.besides a 1.3 tbi does not comply with adr rules.

Post by **Santos** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:02 pm

joeblow wrote:don't waste money on a 1.3.go the 1600 and you will love it.besides a 1.3 tbi does not comply with adr rules.

Funny neither does a 1.6l engine. Think about it, custom engine mounts.
Sure you can engineer them which is ' ADRing' so why not ADR a tbi?

Other things like extractors although designed as factory replacement they change the characteresics of the factory setting so how do you prove the engine still meets it's original ADR?

Bluezook go TBi, spend the rest on extractor and a torquey cam. Maybe you will never supercharge but it will be set for it . If you motor is strong don't chuck it out. How often do you do speeds legally over 110km?

(oh yeah and the whole tbi works on angles blah blah what everyone says

Post by **joeblow** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:10 pm

i'm not talking about engineering guidlines which covers instalation.if a motor was not offered in australia,in an ausie spec car than the tbi motor does not meet adr rules for emissions.you can get away with this by running straight gas but that defeats the purpose.

Post by **Santos** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:26 pm

Yeah but you can get to pass emissions just like you can get an engineer to pass engine mounts. You just have to prove that the engine emmissions are equivelant to your year model standard (or better). The whole reason why japan and USA switched to throttle body was so that it passed emmission standards!

Post by **joeblow** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:31 pm

vicroads and epa cost for that test is $4000+.ring vicroads engineers to find out.

Post by **nicbeer** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:46 pm

Dont think most of the guys could tell the difference between a tbi and a carby.

How often do they do emissions testing?

Nic

Post by **Mudsierra** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:08 pm

um.. what's TBI?? what it mean i never heard of it before?

Post by **"CANADA"** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:13 pm

MudRoza wrote:um.. what's TBI?? what it mean i never heard of it before?

Throttle Body Injection

Post by **CRUSHU** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:39 pm

joeblow wrote:i'm not talking about engineering guidlines which covers instalation.if a motor was not offered in australia,in an ausie spec car than the tbi motor does not meet adr rules for emissions.you can get away with this by running straight gas but that defeats the purpose.

I have heard this before as well, My engineer wouldn't let me use an import spec 4AGE motor in my Zook, it had to be Aussie spec, or converted to Aussie spec (computer and whatever else was different).

But how do you engineer a VH45 in a Patrol?

Post by **Zookified** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:55 pm

Bluezook, where can you get a tbi setup for $300? Is there only one setup going at this price?

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:01 pm

CRUSHU wrote:
joeblow wrote:i'm not talking about engineering guidlines which covers instalation.if a motor was not offered in australia,in an ausie spec car than the tbi motor does not meet adr rules for emissions.you can get away with this by running straight gas but that defeats the purpose.

I have heard this before as well, My engineer wouldn't let me use an import spec 4AGE motor in my Zook, it had to be Aussie spec, or converted to Aussie spec (computer and whatever else was different).

But how do you engineer a VH45 in a Patrol?

I know of at least one engineered on straight gas - so that's one way.
Can't imagine there are many VH45's from aus spec Q45's sitting in wreckers

Steve

Post by **bluezook** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:53 pm

this is funny because you are all wrong read before you post i SAID !single point injection!

NOT TBI

Post by **christover1** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:00 pm

bluezook wrote:this is funny because you are all wrong read before you post i SAID !single point injection!

NOT TBI

It is the same thing as far as I understand

christover

Post by **built4thrashing** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:40 pm

whats with all the negative comments guys? It seems to be the norm lately that when ever someone asks a question or asks for advice everyone gets real political and negative.

Who really cares if he doesnt get it ADR'd or whatever. Im sure nearly everyone on here is driving an illegal vehicle in some way. Like who on here has made their own front bars and had a propper crash-test done on it to see if it passes, or upgraded and engineered the brakes to suit the bigger rubber we all run?

This site used to be really good but lately it has gone downhill
P.S. not everyone is like this but it seens to be comming a majority.

Post by **nicbeer** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:58 pm

christover1 wrote:
bluezook wrote:this is funny because you are all wrong read before you post i SAID !single point injection!

NOT TBI
It is the same thing as far as I understand

christover

X2 Single point has a injector in the middle of the throttle body aka TBI.

Nic

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