Vic Winch 06

Post by **Davidh** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:20 pm

Oh crap... this is gonna turn out worse than the OBC thread on tyre sizes!

Post by **ford36** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:24 pm

yet sound s like it will.....

Post by **krimnl** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:27 pm

Davidh wrote:Oh crap... this is gonna turn out worse than the OBC thread on tyre sizes!

it has to all be sorted out thts for sure.

im happy to run whatever tyre size is decided on , but the rules have to be made uniform for all events , ccda has to clearly state in the rules the tyre sizes and pressures or even better have a list of approved tyres an approved rim sizes . and then ALL events under run the ccda banner have to stick with this ruling.

but for now we will have 37" for outback , 35.5 for vic winch , 36.5 for Ateco, 35" for cruiserkhana and open for hobzees events

Post by **Aus4wd** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:34 pm

hi guys sandy here

we have been up to the property on the weekend and there will be some good long but drivable stages for friday night . hopefully an early finish.

sat will have 5 day stages and 1 night stage the night one being drivable also and sunday we are going to try to run 3 stages in line

the tyre size has been capped at 908 mm @ 20 psi .

there are a few reasons
we would like to preserve the tracks and the land as we would like to run another event very soon at the same property.preserving the cars so that there is less breakages and more competitors finishing all stages. also bringing the field closer and reducing the importance of hp making it more even across the board .

i understand that this may be an inconvenience to some teams that want to run , but i hope you can respect our decision and understand our reasoning for it .

we have started recieving entries back already ,if anyone needs a form email us at alisonsandy@hotmail.com

Post by **ford36** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:34 pm

so if someone turn s up to the vic winch with a trackr 2 (36simex) on and it fit in the gauge their will be able to race with them.????

I think if they going to have a size limit they should go by whats writen on the side of the tyre. not what fit in the gauge...

Post by **ford36** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:35 pm

hi sandy will you past a 36simex or not

Post by **Aus4wd** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:43 pm

i have measured several tyre brands and sizes one of them being a 36 x 12.5 x 16 pede on a 8 in rim with a mechanical bead lock and it measured 906mm. depending on you rim size i think they should all fit but anyone is welcome to bring tyres down to measure.or measure them yourselves..to be honest i think bigger tyres will probably disadvantage you anyway

Post by **Aus4wd** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:44 pm

there will be pre scrutineering for those who didnt realize

Post by **krimnl** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:45 pm

Aus4wd wrote:i have measured several tyre brands and sizes one of them being a 36 x 12.5 x 16 pede on a 8 in rim with a mechanical bead lock and it measured 906mm. depending on you rim size i think they should all fit but anyone is welcome to bring tyres down to measure.or measure them yourselves..to be honest i think bigger tyres will probably disadvantage you anyway

can i run my 37" claws

Post by **Aus4wd** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:53 pm

maybe you should consider 255/45/18 for better handling

Post by **krimnl** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:01 pm

Aus4wd wrote:maybe you should consider 255/45/18 for better handling

Post by **morkz** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:27 am

hey just to let everyone know

we have set up a vicwinch website and will be working on it when i get back from europe which is at the august....

www.vicwinch.com.au

www.vicwinch.org.au and we have a forum as well /forum at the end of the domain name..

cheers

weeman

Post by **MissDrew** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:42 am

Aus4wd wrote:there will be pre scrutineering for those who didnt realize

I`m going to guess this doesn`t apply to out of towners or interstaters.

Post by **nackers** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:14 pm

The CCDA need to stand up and make a decision on this tyre problem. The OBC was a joke with competitors have their tyres deflated and jacked up off the ground so the gauge would fit - what happened to race ready. Now the Vic winch has set another tyre size, different than the standard, maybe for all the right reasons but never less there is no consistency in the decision making. If the Vic winch needs to be stepped down a level to reduce costs for up and coming drivers and teams then the comp should be ran under the trophy class or touring class classification, then the whole horse power and tyre size problems are taken care off.
That my 2 cents

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:50 pm

Aus4wd wrote:i have measured several tyre brands and sizes one of them being a 36 x 12.5 x 16 pede on a 8 in rim with a mechanical bead lock and it measured 906mm. depending on you rim size i think they should all fit but anyone is welcome to bring tyres down to measure.or measure them yourselves..to be honest i think bigger tyres will probably disadvantage you anyway

I thought the 36x12.5 was listed at 940mm new, but that maybe on a 15ins rim.

Post by **sierrajim** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:52 pm

matt.mcinnes wrote:
Aus4wd wrote:i have measured several tyre brands and sizes one of them being a 36 x 12.5 x 16 pede on a 8 in rim with a mechanical bead lock and it measured 906mm. depending on you rim size i think they should all fit but anyone is welcome to bring tyres down to measure.or measure them yourselves..to be honest i think bigger tyres will probably disadvantage you anyway

I thought the 36x12.5 was listed at 940mm new, but that maybe on a 15ins rim.

More often than not a tyre not on a rim will be much taller than one fitted to a rim.

Post by **Aus4wd** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:45 pm

matt.mcinnes wrote:
Aus4wd wrote:i have measured several tyre brands and sizes one of them being a 36 x 12.5 x 16 pede on a 8 in rim with a mechanical bead lock and it measured 906mm. depending on you rim size i think they should all fit but anyone is welcome to bring tyres down to measure.or measure them yourselves..to be honest i think bigger tyres will probably disadvantage you anyway

I thought the 36x12.5 was listed at 940mm new, but that maybe on a 15ins rim.

A 37" BFG Crawler measures at 940mm.

Post by **Aus4wd** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:05 pm

Guts wrote:
Aus4wd wrote:there will be pre scrutineering for those who didnt realize
I`m going to guess this doesn`t apply to out of towners or interstaters.

we will go through the scrutineering with you guys previous and do the same as last time which was ,we did a check at the property on the friday you guys may need to arrive a bit earlier in the day

Post by **MissDrew** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:17 pm

Aus4wd wrote:
Guts wrote:
Aus4wd wrote:there will be pre scrutineering for those who didnt realize
I`m going to guess this doesn`t apply to out of towners or interstaters.
we will go through the scrutineering with you guys previous and do the same as last time which was ,we did a check at the property on the friday you guys may need to arrive a bit earlier in the day

Yep thought as much

Thanks.

Post by **ford36** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:40 am

If i could get a entry form i ll be they

Post by **Aus4wd** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:32 pm

I've tried 3 times to send your entry form, both to yours and Amy's email address.

Post by **ford36** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:47 pm

Thanx sandy turned up to day.
I thing my email is playing up

Post by **Aus4wd** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:12 pm

We have already started receiving entries back and I must remind everyone that these need to be returned by 31st July.

All entrants, successful or not, will be notified by 14th August.

Best Regards
Alison

Post by **YankeeDave** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:26 pm

hey alison can i haggle on the entry price? want to join but low on cash

Post by **80diesel4play** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:00 am

YankeeDave wrote:hey alison can i haggle on the entry price? want to join but low on cash

pay your club membership dave and we may be nice to you!!!

Post by **hottiemonster** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:54 am

YankeeDave wrote:hey alison can i haggle on the entry price? want to join but low on cash

same here, anyone wishing to pay for my entry

Post by **teemothy** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:30 pm

I'm soooo confused, is the vic winch challenge a winch challenge, or is it a tuff truck type of event.
There's nothing worse than seeing stages fuct by big tyres midway through an event. if you need proof ask anyone who got to follow lowey into that big bog hole on saturday at the vic winch challenge last year.
I think the event organisers should be respected and thanked for their time and effort in setting up an event. i imagine it takes more than a weekend or two to get an event up and running.
So many people have so many negative views, if your not happy, pressure your club into creating its own event, then you can make your own rules. Its not like Victoria is overrun with events.

Goodluck to everyone and thankyou to the ontrack 4wd club for putting on the event.

Post by **80diesel4play** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:54 am

teemothy wrote:I'm soooo confused, is the vic winch challenge a winch challenge, or is it a tuff truck type of event.
There's nothing worse than seeing stages fuct by big tyres midway through an event. if you need proof ask anyone who got to follow lowey into that big bog hole on saturday at the vic winch challenge last year.

THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR - 1 x Zero car only at start of day - all can watch and then all go in your groups. No "internal zero car competition will be happening at all" I think everyone was dissapointed in last years issues with ezero cars destroying the course prior to groups

I think the event organisers should be respected and thanked for their time and effort in setting up an event. i imagine it takes more than a weekend or two to get an event up and running.
So many people have so many negative views, if your not happy, pressure your club into creating its own event, then you can make your own rules. Its not like Victoria is overrun with events.

Goodluck to everyone and thankyou to the ontrack 4wd club for putting on the event.

Thanks mate - You're welcome to come help work on the working bees we have (@6 to get things going)

Paulo
El Presidente - Ontrack 4wd club(Vic)

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:30 pm

Dropped my entry in today

think my 35x10.5x15 will fit the gauge ok

Post by **MissDrew** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:36 pm

Mine went last week, just got to wait untill next month to find out who gets in.

Things for me to do is fit laminated front housing, new front shocks, new swampers (done 2), new leads, new bushes, maybe a new clutch and get my new exhaust done.

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