Attaching rope to a drum

[MYTTUF]

Peoples
I wanna run a loop at both ends of the winch rope to make bush winch repairs quicker.
How have others attached the loop to the drum??
Cheers
Jonesy

[toughnut]

You can just make a chocker hitch. Ie, loop the rope through itself over the drum. Once you have the three wraps on the drum that you are meant to have minimum it won't slip. I tied my rope around after it broke and it stayed like this for about 8 months including XI last year and had no probs.

[G_loomis]

I have seen a few guys tape the end of the rope to the drum, then make the required amount of wraps around the drum (about 5-6 times I think they did) and then completely tape over this.

Not much of a muchness between that or tying a knot I guess...but taping it would leave a flatter product allowing for a neater respool. But who really worries about that in the heat of battle.

[blkmav]

Big arse crimp terminal bolted to the drum. However I do like the tape idea to get a neater spool

[MYTTUF]

Guys
I planned to just wrap the rope around the drum and use a bit of tape to help with the initial wrap around. I was advised to tie a knot as it will work as a safety brake in the worse case scenario and went to set it up yesterday with a mate. He advised me that he had seen a winch rope that was just tied & taped slip under a heap of load (this winch worked Ok when re-wound in the exact same situation).
Anyway I mucked around and don't know due to all the different techniques which is the best. I thinlk I'll just end up doing what Steve has done if I can get it on neat. The crimp lug is what it came with but I wanna have a loop at both ends.
Thanks
Jonesy

[-Scott-]

There's a simple formula (which I don't remember) relating the tension on the load side to the tension on the "free end" of the cable. The two primary variables are friction coefficient between cable and drum, and the number of turns. The fewer the number of turns, the more tension can be transmitted to the "drum end" of the cable. More turns = less tension - but the tension at the drum end is always defined. It may be negligible, but it has a number.

The three turns thing works well for high friction combinations - leather horse reins around wooden pole, steel cable around steel drum - so the attachment of cable to drum doesn't need to be strong, because the force is negligible.

It's possible the friction co-efficient between drum and plasma rope is too low for the traditional three turns, so you may not be able to rely on friction alone - you may still need a positive attachment to "resist" the residual tension. Or an extra turn or two. Or both?

Cheers,

Scott