Hello All,
I am just in the process of selling my Sierra in favour of something a little bigger to accomodate the family.
One of my options could be a Freelander so I am just after a bit of advice here on purchasing a 2nd hand one.
I have done a bit of research on the www today and so far I have found only negaitve reports on the Freelander with numerous build quality problems and recalls.
Is this really the case?
Would be interested to hear from someone who owns one.
I am looking at 97-99 models.
Thanks.
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Buying a Freelander
Moderator: Micka
I was told by my service fella when my Disco was dealer serviced that he wouldn't sell one to his worst enemy. Apparently the 4cyl ones blow head gasket, then head gasket then the motor. The V6's have auto tranny dramas, but apparently the TD4's are fine. I'm not sure if they still have funny tyre wear problems when run loaded.
Cheers
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
Welllll ... as an owner of a Freelander ....
Pre-01 I wouldn't touch if it was a Petrol. The 1.8 is just too small and has headgasket issues. The early diesels are not bad however, but I've never driven or owned one.
After 01 the 1.8 and the old diesel were not sold here anymore - you can only get the V6 or the TD4. The V6 is a rover engine and the TD4 is a BMW engine. The auto was available with the V6 and TD4 only. You can get a TD4 manual, but not a V6 manual.
I would stay away from the early 01s as some did have problems. I have a late 02 V6 myself.
The automatic (5spd with steptronic) is the same for the TD4 and the V6 so not sure why the V6 would have any more problems than the TD4? There were some issues with the Auto but they should all be sorted. I have heard various theories as to why there were problems with them. The Jatco autobox is generally quite reliable though.
The funny tyre wear problem was related to the IRD and was fixed with the V6/TD4 versions. Most of the early diesels and petrols would have had it fixed by now anyway.
The V6 does have a propensity to have a failure with the variable intake manifold - not a show stopper, you just end up a fraction down on power. When its working, when you hit 3500rpm the intake length changes and it gets a surge of power - almost VTEC like. Actually the V6 has a superb induction noise ...
The TD4 is pretty good, loads of torque.
They are a great car if you get a good one. Very comfy ride, moderately capable off-road. Great interior space - I'm 6'8" and have more room inside than a Disco. The only drawback is the tiny boot.
Pre-01 I wouldn't touch if it was a Petrol. The 1.8 is just too small and has headgasket issues. The early diesels are not bad however, but I've never driven or owned one.
After 01 the 1.8 and the old diesel were not sold here anymore - you can only get the V6 or the TD4. The V6 is a rover engine and the TD4 is a BMW engine. The auto was available with the V6 and TD4 only. You can get a TD4 manual, but not a V6 manual.
I would stay away from the early 01s as some did have problems. I have a late 02 V6 myself.
The automatic (5spd with steptronic) is the same for the TD4 and the V6 so not sure why the V6 would have any more problems than the TD4? There were some issues with the Auto but they should all be sorted. I have heard various theories as to why there were problems with them. The Jatco autobox is generally quite reliable though.
The funny tyre wear problem was related to the IRD and was fixed with the V6/TD4 versions. Most of the early diesels and petrols would have had it fixed by now anyway.
The V6 does have a propensity to have a failure with the variable intake manifold - not a show stopper, you just end up a fraction down on power. When its working, when you hit 3500rpm the intake length changes and it gets a surge of power - almost VTEC like. Actually the V6 has a superb induction noise ...
The TD4 is pretty good, loads of torque.
They are a great car if you get a good one. Very comfy ride, moderately capable off-road. Great interior space - I'm 6'8" and have more room inside than a Disco. The only drawback is the tiny boot.
Dion
01 I6 Jeep Cherokee Classic (ARB bar, OME 2" lift)
01 I6 Jeep Cherokee Classic (ARB bar, OME 2" lift)
....but also beware Mitsubishi - they can get horribly expensive to fix and maintain. Mitsu parts are very expensive if not the most expensive of all Jap cars and there's not many aftermarket subsitutes.....otherwise Paj and iO are decently made. Later RAVs are torsionally weak - jack up one corner and the doors won't shut properly. CRVs seem to be OK, perhaps they are the pick of the SYV bunch, although Zook V6 is also reasonable, bit underpowered but cheaper than CRV.
Nice gq swb ute chop with a huffer for the good times
The comment about torsion strength reminds me ...
People often claim the Freeo suffers the same problem. I have had mine lifting wheels and no rub marks in the doors etc.
They are moderately capable offroad. Biggest drama is clearance, which means you often have to do this:
Oh, the later model V6 and TD4s all had the traction control and Hill Descent Control. Traction control make short work of steep rutted climbs:
People often claim the Freeo suffers the same problem. I have had mine lifting wheels and no rub marks in the doors etc.
They are moderately capable offroad. Biggest drama is clearance, which means you often have to do this:
Oh, the later model V6 and TD4s all had the traction control and Hill Descent Control. Traction control make short work of steep rutted climbs:
Dion
01 I6 Jeep Cherokee Classic (ARB bar, OME 2" lift)
01 I6 Jeep Cherokee Classic (ARB bar, OME 2" lift)
Interesting comments. Perhaps it's the 'Rover' bashing thing - one bad model and they are all ajudged to be crap. I'll have to be more cautious when hearing Freelander criticism. As I said, I was aware they had sold heaps in the EU, and when over there earlier this year, not one word of criticism was spoken about them - except the early petrol models, as has been said...
Nice gq swb ute chop with a huffer for the good times
well about the sub frame well my brother test them o the limits
here are some pics of both of his racers. The silver one is 1.8 and the red one is a TD5
And if you read Total Off Road. His is the one flying on the subcribtions page
In the Dakar
And in case you wondered this is what he races against
here are some pics of both of his racers. The silver one is 1.8 and the red one is a TD5
And if you read Total Off Road. His is the one flying on the subcribtions page
In the Dakar
And in case you wondered this is what he races against
AKA Reads90
Its the way it shatters that matters
Its the way it shatters that matters
I want his job!well about the sub frame well my brother test them o the limits
here are some pics of both of his racers. The silver one is 1.8 and the red one is a TD5
And if you read Total Off Road. His is the one flying on the subcribtions page
Nice gq swb ute chop with a huffer for the good times
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