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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:15 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
greg wrote:Hey Mick,

Perhaps you can clear something up for me regarding the boggers...

I've heard a viscious rumour that when travelling at highway speeds they are frighteningly loud (i.e. as loud as 98 decebels?)??????

Is that right? :shock: Or is that just crazy talk? :roll:

thanks mate


i think it is crazy talk.

I have only driven it on the road in low range but i cant hear anything over my exhaust

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:14 am
by stu
I have only driven it on the road in low range but i cant hear anything over my exhaust


.........which sounds like a jumbo taking off, so that would be 120 db.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:49 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
a few update pics.

done a bit of sill chopping

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:52 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
i also cut the rear quarters off because they were a little shagged.

a few half finished tube rear pics

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:54 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
a couple more

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:59 pm
by greg
Cripes mate - that thing is losing sheet metal pretty quickly :D

Just do me one favour - please get rid of the stock b pillar / hoop :?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:00 pm
by redzook
weres the pics of the front finished?
:D
whats the wb at?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:05 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
greg wrote:Cripes mate - that thing is losing sheet metal pretty quickly :D

Just do me one favour - please get rid of the stock b pillar / hoop :?


i like the b pillar, its not a real zook with out that!

The reason for losing all the sheetmetal is that i keep up bending panels! Its easier to bend up a bit of tube rather than panel beat it!

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:09 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
redzook wrote:weres the pics of the front finished?
:D
whats the wb at?


The front still isnt finished :roll: I have a few more bits bent up for it, just havent welded them on!


The wheelbase is only about 85 inches at the moment. I am stretching the front out a couple more inches as well. I dont want it too long, i think it will belly out on everything if i go too long.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:09 pm
by greg
mickbj42 wrote:i like the b pillar


WHAT!!!!! :shock:

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:14 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
greg wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:i like the b pillar


WHAT!!!!! :shock:


matt doesnt run one on his, i prefer it with one. I think it might come off soon though.......it is all twisted and bent on the passenger side

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:17 pm
by greg
mickbj42 wrote:
greg wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:i like the b pillar


WHAT!!!!! :shock:


matt doesnt run one on his, i prefer it with one. I think it might come off soon though.......it is all twisted and bent on the passenger side


The sooner the better i reckon :D

It's definately looking tough now though mick... dare i assume that it is a buggy / trailer queen in its state though?

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:20 pm
by redzook
i think it looks sweet with the b pillar an windscreen still in tact

Still look like a zook ;)

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:22 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
greg wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:
greg wrote:
mickbj42 wrote:i like the b pillar


WHAT!!!!! :shock:


matt doesnt run one on his, i prefer it with one. I think it might come off soon though.......it is all twisted and bent on the passenger side


The sooner the better i reckon :D

It's definately looking tough now though mick... dare i assume that it is a buggy / trailer queen in its state though?


i am going to drive it to work once i have finished these round of mods!

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:59 pm
by SAWZALL
Gee I hope you work from home :D

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:33 pm
by mud4b
what do you measure from to get the wheelbase length.....




keep the hoop it looks good.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:11 am
by redzook
mud4b wrote:what do you measure from to get the wheelbase length.....




keep the hoop it looks good.
front of front tyre to front of rear tire (wheels facin straight)
or hub to hub

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:21 am
by Drewfus
Good stuff,


in support, keep the b pillar hoop, think they look good (even if they are feeble and useless.....)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:17 pm
by N*A*M
because this is a very interesting mod and since mick can't take photos to save his life; i have adjusted the levels on the two sill pics. they look fawken sweet! :cool: nice work man!

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:30 pm
by grimbo
Mick are you running dual shackles on the front or is it shackle reversal. Either way don't those rear shackles make a hell of a noice slapping against the frame like that in those last two pics. And what happens when you stuff the spring ie shorten the length where is that taken up, as the shackles usually handles this but in that setup it doesn't appear they will be able to. Or am I not seeing things properly

Re: Zook Build-Up

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:35 pm
by greg
grimbo wrote:Mick are you running dual shackles on the front or is it shackle reversal.


Do a search Newbie! :D

mickbj42 wrote:Mods will be: 1.6 Vitara engine, hilux diffs, 37 boggers, shackle reversal, shock hoops in the front, inboarded shocks in the rear, power steer and heaps of other stuff.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:37 pm
by grimbo
I realise from the original setup it was but wasn't sure if he had since gone to dual shackles as I didn't think you would set a shackle reversal like that :D

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:50 pm
by greg
True, they do appear to be at full compression when sitting at ride height... Perhaps mick has bumpstopped the car to sit like this? It would definately be an easy way to get the car to sit nice and low :cool:

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:57 pm
by redzook
the spring looks pretty flat i dont think the shackle will have to move back any futher only forward

could be rong though :neutral:

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:24 pm
by greg
redzook wrote:could be rong though :neutral:


Clearly you get a few things rong don't you? :D

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:32 pm
by grimbo
redzook wrote:the spring looks pretty flat i dont think the shackle will have to move back any futher only forward

could be rong though :neutral:


when he compresses or flexes the spring the shackle won't allow it unless it is dead flat . If there is any increase in spring length it will eventualy break something.

I think you are rong too :D

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:57 pm
by redzook
but how will the spring extend when it is already flat it can only get shorter ;)

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:12 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
grimbo wrote:Mick are you running dual shackles on the front or is it shackle reversal. Either way don't those rear shackles make a hell of a noice slapping against the frame like that in those last two pics. And what happens when you stuff the spring ie shorten the length where is that taken up, as the shackles usually handles this but in that setup it doesn't appear they will be able to. Or am I not seeing things properly


It is a shackle reversal on the front. The hit the chassis but it aint too bad, i am going to make a few adjustments to help that though.

Because the springs are perfectly flat the shackle on compression and extension will always pull forward.

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:13 pm
by M&M Custom Engineerin
redzook wrote:but how will the spring extend when it is already flat it can only get shorter ;)


you already answered the question :lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:14 pm
by greg
mickbj42 wrote:Because the springs are perfectly flat the shackle on compression and extension will always pull forward.


Does that mean that your ride hight is effectively sitting at full compression? Is it bumpstopped at that point too?

That would definatly be the easiest way to get the car to sit as low as possible all the time - though i gather it would result in a bumpy side... how does it go?