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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:06 pm
by SWAT
Pat Murray wrote:Just so all you good guys don't think that TRVA is doing nuthin', we have a presentation next Wednesday night by DPIWE on this issue. It is NOT set in concrete yet and they are open to suggestions at this stage. The TRVA executive will listen to their arguments and formulate a response based on this. All the good stuff you guys are doing out there helps. Don't forget to phone your local Member and give him/her your thoughts! They don't like voters calling them up and giving them heaps--it makes them very nervous! Go get yourselves a copy of the Draft management Plan and study what is being proposed-it will help your arguments.

Thanks // Nice work Pat

Keep us posted on the news

Chears Bruce

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:09 pm
by Spike_Sierra
i went to king towbars and asked to sign the petition and they looked at me blankly, also went to Tjm as i thought they would have one but they dont.
have to go out to brads at mobile workshop supplies and he printed a copy out, im first on the list!

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:15 pm
by ditch
I just signed then at 4x4 spares in moonah, good stuff guys.

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:02 pm
by turbogu
theres also a copy at Griggs mower and saw service in 14 wilmot road huonville

and the franklin post office for any of the southern guys

petition

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:04 pm
by DR Frankenstine
Spike_Sierra wrote:i went to king towbars and asked to sign the petition and they looked at me blankly, also went to Tjm as i thought they would have one but they dont.
have to go out to brads at mobile workshop supplies and he printed a copy out, im first on the list!
We deffinatelly have it at kings florence st and main rd moonah you probably got d/head Trevor Sorry :?

southport

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:09 pm
by DR Frankenstine
Everyone needs to get a copy of the draft management plan and study it. Then respond to it no later than the 30 sept sending responses to


Director of national parks and wildlife
GPO Box 1751 Hobart 7001

The more responses the better.
Everyone who responds with merit will then be invited to attend a public forum.

Spread the word.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:03 am
by GREGGO
Coastal Bikes in Burnie has a copy of the petition. Keep up the good work. The Arthur - Pieman area is looking good for a save, so lets try for the same result down your way!

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:07 pm
by bushytas
Hi all just to let you know the meeting tonight is for 4wd clubs motor bike riders bushwalkers ECT its at the RSL at Dover and starts at 7pm
It’s to find out what people think it’s being held by parks and wildlife, lands department and the recreation users association
I wont be going so if anyone ends up going please post minutes here if you can.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:39 pm
by crankycruiser
One of the boys in the club rang em up and they were saying its for landowners only..

we will be staying away casue we dont wanna upset them.. we prolly bneed em on our side

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:17 pm
by lwbmav
crankycruiser wrote:One of the boys in the club rang em up and they were saying its for landowners only..

we will be staying away casue we dont wanna upset them.. we prolly bneed em on our side
Sounds like parks is doing a real number on us .
Get the greens on side get the landowners on side puck people with 4wd's I don't think we have much chance blokes.

the meet

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:49 pm
by lwbmav
So did anyone go to this meeting love to know what was said

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:09 pm
by bushytas
yes the trva and huonvalley club have gone and so have other clubs was talking to four people tonight from DV and huon and the old Toyota club
they were all going and had been invited ? so go figer

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:26 pm
by lwbmav
bushytas wrote:yes the trva and huonvalley club have gone and so have other clubs was talking to four people tonight from DV and huon and the old Toyota club
they were all going and had been invited ? so go figer
can you pin them for info sometime and let us know

thanks Scott

The meeting

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:19 pm
by lwbmav
Any word on the meeting guy's? anyone?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:23 pm
by timbocruise
so any word yet?????????

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:47 pm
by Pat Murray
The TRVA Southern Executive met with Parks senior Planner Gary Willmott last Wednesday and had a frank and open meeting. They realise that this is a hot potato issue and fully expect users to be pissed off. They expect that their proposed Plan will go to the Planning Board and thus will hear submissions from user groups etc. over their proposed plans. I can only stress that you contact your local pollies and bash their ears bigtime over this one. It is generally considered that the personal contact of one voter to a pollie is equal to the opinions of 100 voters!!! So if you really care follow this advice PLEASE! Petition signing is good too but personal contact is the way to go, trust me. The proposed closure will not come into effect until possibly summer of 2006 or later. We are leaning towards the alternative track that parallels the existing tracks to the Spit but must stress that nothing is decided yet.

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:41 pm
by lwbmav
Pat Murray wrote:The TRVA Southern Executive met with Parks senior Planner Gary Willmott last Wednesday and had a frank and open meeting. They realise that this is a hot potato issue and fully expect users to be pissed off. They expect that their proposed Plan will go to the Planning Board and thus will hear submissions from user groups etc. over their proposed plans. I can only stress that you contact your local pollies and bash their ears bigtime over this one. It is generally considered that the personal contact of one voter to a pollie is equal to the opinions of 100 voters!!! So if you really care follow this advice PLEASE! Petition signing is good too but personal contact is the way to go, trust me. The proposed closure will not come into effect until possibly summer of 2006 or later. We are leaning towards the alternative track that parallels the existing tracks to the Spit but must stress that nothing is decided yet.
Nice work Pat
So is that the end of black swan or will we still be able to camp(drive) there.
thanks Scott

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:55 pm
by Pat Murray
Black Swan lagoon will fall under the same Management regime as the main track from their point of view--i.e. they would like it closed. I guess from the point of view of trying to keep a low profile (us) it would be better to leave Black Swan alone as Recherche is getting a lot of attention from other groups lately and it is quite close. But , the decision is yours.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:54 pm
by timbocruise
the best tracks should be used, ie pig pen, and the marsh should be closed off to let it recover, dont see why going to black swan should hurt, it is mostly compacted sand tracks and single tracks at that. doesnt make sense to just close the whole lot off :x

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:37 pm
by SWAT
Most of the tracks leading in to the Black Swan Camp site are well formed and on the ridge line only with a few problem holes to cross, and if the sty or forestry road was used it would reduce the dammage down there 10 fold, with just a bit of work in the holes....... The camp site at Black Swan is also much larger and environmentally less dammageable by campers I would not like to see this place ruled out as an option.

Any other Ideas or thoughts?

Chears Bruce

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:32 pm
by bushytas
ok all by the 14/9/05 will be the dead line for all the signed letters to be back to myself or peter please if you have them return them by that time and if you need us to pick them up pm me and either peter or myself will be into pick them up but please ask for id before giving them to just anyone our names are at the bottom of the letter so match it to our licence or something

petition

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:50 pm
by DR Frankenstine
bushytas wrote:ok all by the 14/9/05 will be the dead line for all the signed letters to be back to myself or peter please if you have them return them by that time and if you need us to pick them up pm me and either peter or myself will be into pick them up but please ask for id before giving them to just anyone our names are at the bottom of the letter so match it to our licence or something
Hi all
Ill ring everyone on my list and get them to post them to me. But other wise post them to
Peter Booth
30 mountain pl
Molesworth
7140

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:17 pm
by crankycruiser
Will do...

I will take mine to southport this weekend first tho.. git a bit of mud on it for them..

BTW a few of the boys are in there now and they reckon its pretty dry..

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:25 pm
by Pat Murray
TRVA ( 4WD Tas.) will be placing their submission with Parks on Tuesday. We have worked long and hard on this issue,contrary to what one tosser has said on this thread, and since Parks do not seem all that confident of getting their Plan up, we hope we can have a considerable influence on them.

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:52 pm
by derelict_frog
Kool, thanks dude!!!


PS any one got back from southport this weekend? apparantly at least 2 groups had to turn back as they couldnt get in????

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:52 am
by SWAT
derelict_frog wrote:Kool, thanks dude!!!


PS any one got back from southport this weekend? apparantly at least 2 groups had to turn back as they couldnt get in????


Yeah We are back and there was alot of people who had to turn back it is Very wet down there i think probably the wettest I have seen it.......

We were camped at black swan

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:53 am
by SWAT
Pat Murray wrote:TRVA ( 4WD Tas.) will be placing their submission with Parks on Tuesday. We have worked long and hard on this issue,contrary to what one tosser has said on this thread, and since Parks do not seem all that confident of getting their Plan up, we hope we can have a considerable influence on them.



Colud you send me a copy of the TRVFA Submition Please?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:02 pm
by Red_Zook
SWAT wrote:
Pat Murray wrote:TRVA ( 4WD Tas.) will be placing their submission with Parks on Tuesday. We have worked long and hard on this issue,contrary to what one tosser has said on this thread, and since Parks do not seem all that confident of getting their Plan up, we hope we can have a considerable influence on them.



Colud you send me a copy of the TRVFA Submition Please?
i woudlnt mind a read of this 2..
can some one get a copy and copy and past it up here for all 2 c?
Phil

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:58 pm
by LUXon37s
I went in on the opening weekend and the one gone, It was great the one just gone piece of piss through the pig stye we heared about 10 cars bogged on saturday on the marsh so we went out to help saturday nite but no one there

southport

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:57 pm
by DR Frankenstine
noifs wrote:I went in on the opening weekend and the one gone, It was great the one just gone piece of piss through the pig stye we heared about 10 cars bogged on saturday on the marsh so we went out to help saturday nite but no one there
was a great couple of weekends hey gav

There were a lot of vehicles having a lot of trouble both weekends and this was mostly due to under prepared vehicles and lack of proper recovery gear. A couple of Pics of the vehicles that were well prepared and had little trouble.