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Who else has broken these yet ?

And was it the Axle or the CV ?

Nick

1MadEngineer, is your GQ a lwb, or extended swb?

KIWI wrote:1MadEngineer, is your GQ a lwb, or extended swb?

LOL Its Mick's and its a LWB cut to extra cab

Cheers, always though swb was the way to go, but will keep the GU shorty for on road, and buy a lwb to mod for the other stuff I think

KIWI wrote:Cheers, always though swb was the way to go, but will keep the GU shorty for on road, and buy a lwb to mod for the other stuff I think

Do the shorty up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WICKED wrote:Do the shorty up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, its running a 3" lift, 33's and superior flex arm, but I need to get rid of the RD28 to make it half decent off road, so for the cost of a conversion, I could buy a GQ and mod it, which is a better option, as I don't want to wreck it as I want to bring it to oz when we make the move late next year.
Sorry for the OT

I had a CAL CV let go on friday night the short side in my SUZZYQ. For the people who don't know my truck she is a gq lwb chassie suk body commodore V6 auto on IROK 42'S . Not a heavy truck at all and with a stock as you can get V6. I'M now just waiting to see how the after sale's service.

Are they selling GU ones yet?

AT4ANTHONY wrote:I had a CAL CV let go on friday night the short side in my SUZZYQ. For the people who don't know my truck she is a gq lwb chassie suk body commodore V6 auto on IROK 42'S . Not a heavy truck at all and with a stock as you can get V6. I'M now just waiting to see how the after sale's service.

Whats the Latest with this mate?

AT4ANTHONY wrote:I had a CAL CV let go on friday night the short side in my SUZZYQ. For the people who don't know my truck she is a gq lwb chassie suk body commodore V6 auto on IROK 42'S . Not a heavy truck at all and with a stock as you can get V6. I'M now just waiting to see how the after sale's service.

I would be very interested in this as i have them in my truck and both sides are clicking quite bad,they are in a MWB 4.2 turbo nissan diesel running 35" simex ,Reduction gears in transfer,lockers etc etc its a winch challenge truck in NZ

There's been quite a bit of coment on Pirate about the cromo CV's having a very good restance to shock loading but not very good life due to wear and tear. Something to o with being soft to absorb the shock loads but that means they stretch with normal loads.

monstr wrote:

AT4ANTHONY wrote:I had a CAL CV let go on friday night the short side in my SUZZYQ. For the people who don't know my truck she is a gq lwb chassie suk body commodore V6 auto on IROK 42'S . Not a heavy truck at all and with a stock as you can get V6. I'M now just waiting to see how the after sale's service.

I would be very interested in this as i have them in my truck and both sides are clicking quite bad,they are in a MWB 4.2 turbo nissan diesel running 35" simex ,Reduction gears in transfer,lockers etc etc its a winch challenge truck in NZ

i have them in my MWB GQ ute, TB42, auto reduction gears and 38.5 Tsl's, they click quite alot, but Cal has assured me they wont break and if they do to give him a call, i cant see me breaking them,

nzdarin wrote:There's been quite a bit of coment on Pirate about the cromo CV's having a very good restance to shock loading but not very good life due to wear and tear. Something to o with being soft to absorb the shock loads but that means they stretch with normal loads.

This is what concerns me.

I'm only running 33's on road but about to buy a set of 36's for play.

If wearing them out to point they are weak and can break is going to be an issue I will try Yuri's.

No point spending nearly $2K and finding out they will but stuffed from on road driving.

If it was a comp only truck then it may be worth it.

Nick

ozy1 wrote:... but Cal has assured me they wont break and if they do to give him a call, i cant see me breaking them...

If he will replace them if you break them, then its worth $2k.

Nick

ozy1 wrote:i have them in my MWB GQ ute, TB42, auto reduction gears and 38.5 Tsl's, they click quite alot, but Cal has assured me they wont break and if they do to give him a call, i cant see me breaking them,

Cal's neighbours, who bought my first buggy off Nam, have the first ever prototype set of the GQ CV's. They were clicking for months and months, driving big stuff every single day (as you do if it's in your backyard) and the CV's still held together. They are rebuilding with a new frame at the moment, CV's should keep going strong when they are back on track.

Cal has sold a few hundred sets of these joints at this stage, mostly to Europe and South America, the only breakages thus far are the GU unit at Cooma, which was replaced as possibly faulty, a GQ unit that had a deformed bearing spindle gouge the shit out of the stub axle, and the GQ unit posted by AT4ANTHONY in this thread.
That's a pretty good run, I reckon. I used to sometimes break 3 or 4 standard units in a weekend. And I know a lot of people were in the same boat.

Wendle wrote: a GQ unit that had a deformed bearing spindle gouge the shit out of the stub axle, and the GQ unit posted by AT4ANTHONY in this thread.

And the outcome was?

CWBYUP wrote:

nzdarin wrote:There's been quite a bit of coment on Pirate about the cromo CV's having a very good restance to shock loading but not very good life due to wear and tear. Something to o with being soft to absorb the shock loads but that means they stretch with normal loads.

This is what concerns me.

I'm only running 33's on road but about to buy a set of 36's for play.

If wearing them out to point they are weak and can break is going to be an issue I will try Yuri's.

No point spending nearly $2K and finding out they will but stuffed from on road driving.

If it was a comp only truck then it may be worth it.

Nick

They wont get stuffed from on road driving as they wont be doing anything, they shouldnt even be turning as patrols arent constant 4wd...

The longfields are the same as the these re the clicking, they do the same after a while and can sound horrible but still dont break (well not very often anyway).

The fact that a few have broken is no surprise to me, built dana 60's break, as did petes old yella cruiser with big ass axles and so too has Mal's bushi with portals.

Anything is breakable and these other options cost shitloads more than 2grand and are no where near an easy fit option like these.

Im sure if your running big tyres and drive hard shiat, then sooner or later you may pop one, but that goes with anything out there, nothing is indestructable and you would have broken a but load of standard ones well before one of these was to finally let go....

So is Cal producing ones for GU's yet???

Hulksta wrote:So is Cal producing ones for GU's yet???

Yeh i'm pretty sure he is.

Hulksta wrote:So is Cal producing ones for GU's yet???

Ring Ring

Telephone: 02 64 564 100

Fax: 02 64 563 558

Postal Address: P O Box 113, Berridale, NSW, Australia, 2628

Email: caloffroad4x4@bigpond.com

When i made my post re the CVs clicking please dont think im bagging them in any way Prior to me useing them we were breaking factory ones quite often,these have done quite a few comps and club runs and although they are clicking they are still holding together,they have out lasted factory CVs many many times over..

tuf045 wrote:

Hulksta wrote:So is Cal producing ones for GU's yet???

Ring Ring

Telephone: 02 64 564 100

Fax: 02 64 563 558

Postal Address: P O Box 113, Berridale, NSW, Australia, 2628

Email: caloffroad4x4@bigpond.com

Thanks

Tazz wrote: They wont get stuffed from on road driving as they wont be doing anything, they shouldnt even be turning as patrols arent constant 4wd...

What about dirt roads etc when in 4wd ?

What about if they are turning etc ? Is it going to be problem ?

Before I out lay the green I will ask Cal but if you can answer it go ahead.

Nick

Need to pull the front diff apart to confirm but looks like we have just blown our 3rd Cal CV.

Will update with some photos as I get them.

Nick

CWBYUP wrote: 28 November
Before I out lay the green I will ask Cal but if you can answer it go ahead.

CWBYUP wrote: 05 December
Need to pull the front diff apart to confirm but looks like we have just blown our 3rd Cal CV.

Will update with some photos as I get them.

Nick

Im confused you have blown 3 cal axles and cv's in a matter of days

Sorry for the confusion, I was looking at puting them in my truck thats why I was asking questions.

The truck that is breaking them is SuzyQ from tuff truck.

I just help the bloke who owns it.

Nick

i think suzyQ might need to calm his driving down a bit. 3 cal cvs is ludacris. yes they are uber strong but they are still a cv joint at the end of the day. i bet he has huge reduction on those 42s aswell? remember torque will break shit just as easy as weight will if its crammed under a rock.

chunderlicious wrote:i think suzyQ might need to calm his driving down a bit. 3 cal cvs is ludacris. yes they are uber strong but they are still a cv joint at the end of the day. i bet he has huge reduction on those 42s aswell? remember torque will break shit just as easy as weight will if its crammed under a rock.

Although I didn't see him drive at Toperi, I have been told he was quite calm 99.9% of the time.

And as far as the shake down run where he broke one it wasn't bad at all.

Will be doing some more investigation before we say to much more but its certainly not good.

Nick

Common sense still needs to be used in 4wding, even though you outlay 2k on Cv's does'nt mean you now have a bullet proof front end.
I have been running cal cv's for approx 1 year now with many podium place wins and have not broke a cv, rear axles are a common breakage.
The cv’s sound like a set of maraka's in the front but they dont break , but i know when to get of the gas and when to nail the power.
Hubs we broke endless , then we built the "HUB RINGS" to stop the hubs blowing apart.
The truck is a GQ full body 3 tonne+ truck with 320+ HP rear wheel nitrous/Turbo TB42 with 40 Trepadors and front dig capability.
I know what a standard cv can handle and the cal cv's have a damn lot more strength than them but everything does have a breaking point , you as a driver just need to know when to back of, otherwise if you cant get of the gas spend the money and purchase dana diffs.
We drove a particular track with 2 new NTN cv's in it 20 mts into the track broke both loading it up , we have driven this track as well as so many others with cal cv's in it and they are still going.
We have also used welded bell cv’s that are a lot stronger than standard and they are still weaker than the cal cv’s.
Just remember everthing has a breaking point .

CWBYUP wrote:

chunderlicious wrote:i think suzyQ might need to calm his driving down a bit. 3 cal cvs is ludacris. yes they are uber strong but they are still a cv joint at the end of the day. i bet he has huge reduction on those 42s aswell? remember torque will break shit just as easy as weight will if its crammed under a rock.

Although I didn't see him drive at Toperi, I have been told he was quite calm 99.9% of the time.

And as far as the shake down run where he broke one it wasn't bad at all.

Will be doing some more investigation before we say to much more but its certainly not good.

Nick

Ask Ant what FTA means and that will sum up his drive at Toperi Or Mal when Ant nearly landed on the back of the Bushie