Outer Limits 4x4 Board

We stuffed up the adjustment on mine once (I have adjustable upper arms). Its not so much a viration, more a really loud hum. I found on mine it only occured between about 39-41km/h.

The interesting thing is that the amount it does it seems to be different for all cars. Some worse than others.

The fix with gearbox spacers works really well, they don't cost much and you can keep adding them till its better. One or two will be plenty for 3" springs.

would i get away with 34s or 35's on 3" suspension and trim?

i went along vic range on my standard lift and 31's and loved it and keen for some more mud action and the like but not until i get some bigger rubber. the date for the mods is soon, just after the new year.

it doesnt really matter about not having much travel casue the locker would help but a little would be enough.

or whats the biggest i can fit on 2" body with trim?

i am going to see cheezy probably on friday night and see what he has to say about it.

hottiemonster wrote:

N*A*M wrote:peter man, you need to be schooled on some basics.
threatening mods eh? haha

wendle gave you good advice. i basically said the same to you yesterday.

take it or leave it. at least it didn't cost you anything.

ok

he gave me good advice but i didnt like his attitude much

SWB Mav TB42, Manual, Koni Suspension, 31" BFG All Terrains, Rear ARB locker, extractors, exhaust, UHF, CB, 120ltr Gas, 45Ltr Petrol, Pioneer Competition Head Unit, 6" Pioneer splits, 840W Amp, 12" Kenwood Sub................

............and no idea.

hottiemonster wrote:would i get away with 34s or 35's on 3" suspension and trim?

i went along vic range on my standard lift and 31's and loved it and keen for some more mud action and the like but not until i get some bigger rubber. the date for the mods is soon, just after the new year.

it doesnt really matter about not having much travel casue the locker would help but a little would be enough.

or whats the biggest i can fit on 2" body with trim?

i am going to see cheezy probably on friday night and see what he has to say about it.

I remember back when vic range was a good half day effort in a 4runner with 31's. I could do a timed race now.........

Sandy runs 3" body lift and standard height springs in his ute with 36" swampers..... seriously though dude, 3" springs, 2" body and a little trim is perfect for vic conditions..........

I'd be 'interested' to hear what cheezy has to say........

On our last trip, the same one hottiemonster was on. Linh drove all of vic range in his 31AT (or smaller) IFS pajero, he got through fine.

but then when i think about 3" springs and 2" body, bye bye insurance.

ToNkA wrote:On our last trip, the same one hottiemonster was on. Linh drove all of vic range in his 31AT (or smaller) IFS pajero, he got through fine.

other than dint in door and broken number plate, and s*** loads of revin'

hottiemonster wrote:but then when i think about 3" springs and 2" body, bye bye insurance.

Well you can still get insurance, just got to pay more...... Just Cars will cover you.

This is a choice you will have to make, standard car with cheap insurance, or modified car with expensive insurance.

I once paid $1,800 per year insurance on a $6,000 car!

maybe i might be able to squeeze a 34" under a 3" suspension lift and trim?

hottiemonster wrote:

ToNkA wrote:On our last trip, the same one hottiemonster was on. Linh drove all of vic range in his 31AT (or smaller) IFS pajero, he got through fine.

other than dint in door and broken number plate, and s*** loads of revin'

if you cant stand a bit of carnage.. you shouldnt be 4 wheeling.. its a sport that costs money

after you guys left, we went down blowhard track where daniel almost turn my bundy into a convertible.. but im not complaining!

Alrighty, this is getting beyond a joke. lets put into black and white for HM what tyres can and can't be run with various configurations.
It would be good if everyone with a GQ who has posted in the last few pages of this thread will have some input.

Here is your template to cut'n'paste..

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis):
Tyre size:
Spring lift:
Body lift:
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no):
Engineer certified (yes/no):
Legitimately registered (yes/no):
Legitimately insured (yes/no):

Mine:

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis): ~SWB
Tyre size: 37" x 12.5"
Spring lift: 6"
Body lift: 0"
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no): yes
Engineer certified (yes/no): yes
Legitimately registered (yes/no): yes
Legitimately insured (yes/no): no

Dad's GQ

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis): LWB
Tyre size: Q78 Swamper (36" ish)
Spring lift: 3"
Body lift: Nil
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no): Yes
Engineer certified (yes/no): No
Legitimately registered (yes/no): Yes
Legitimately insured (yes/no): No

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis): SWB
Tyre size: 35x12.5
Spring lift: 4"
Body lift: 3"
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no): no
Engineer certified (yes/no): yes
Legitimately registered (yes/no): yes
Legitimately insured (yes/no): yes

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis): LWB
Tyre size: 34 JT2
Spring lift: sagged 6
Body lift: 50mm
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no): no
Engineer certified (yes/no): of course
Legitimately registered (yes/no): I keep paying it, if that's what you mean
Legitimately insured (yes/no): we'll have to wait and see.

HM is the Julian_4x4 of the Nissan section...

hottiemonster wrote:but then when i think about 3" springs and 2" body, bye bye insurance.

first off i think u should read the last 10 pages
u have asked the same questions 100000 times
as for insurance it called and engineers cert
it'll cost ya but any insurance c ompany will cover ya
i rang tcis they sed they would insure anything legal
you can lift your car 1/3rd of the original bumpstop clearance without any cert
tcis were cheap too
i had an agreed value 4000 more than DGA
any mod u perform has to be legal and they will insure anything
and for F U C K sake would u get some bigger tyres and stop bloody whinging bout ur car getting a widdle scratch when u go wheeling
what do u expect a bloody polish and wax job when u go out

Style LWB
Tyre size: 33x12.5x15 - soon bigger.
Spring lift: 5/6inch
Body lift: 35mm
Trimmed panelwork no fuckin way.. looks crappy IF not done correctly.
Engineer certified yes
Legitimately registered yes
Legitimately insured yes


PLEASE MR FROM TCIS TAKE NOTE....

well i am going to stick 3" suspension in it as soon as possible, as for tyres either considering 34's JT2 for offroad or 33" Goodyear MTR as on/off road tyre.

ToNkA wrote:

hottiemonster wrote:well i am going to stick 3" suspension in it as soon as possible, as for tyres either considering 34's JT2 for offroad or 33" Goodyear MTR as on/off road tyre.

What about the turn circle limiting adjuster. You will need one for those tyres........... $$$$!

is that so i dont scrape the tyre on the inside when at full lock? How much $$$ is it to fix it?

or what is needed to be done?

how did u do urs Tonka? Are yours 33x12.5?

hottiemonster wrote:

ToNkA wrote:

hottiemonster wrote:well i am going to stick 3" suspension in it as soon as possible, as for tyres either considering 34's JT2 for offroad or 33" Goodyear MTR as on/off road tyre.

What about the turn circle limiting adjuster. You will need one for those tyres........... $$$$!

is that so i dont scrape the tyre on the inside when at full lock? How much $$$ is it to fix it?

or what is needed to be done?

how did u do urs Tonka? Are yours 33x12.5?

Mines a toyota so it was different and quite cheap. Because you have coils, it costs more to change; one of the other guys will sort you out and explain it........

anyone know how to fix this problem for 12.5" wide tyres on a GQ?

hhhmmmm.. what to do here.. I might lock this thread and prune it down to all the useful information.. there is actually some good stuff amongst the rubbish...

HM, your 12.5 tyres will be fine..

Robbie, if I prune this thread, your gonna lose half your post count.


EDIT: I cleaned up all the shit from the padwhores on the last few pages, I think I have left everything that is useful.

Holy Crap. What a read. How do you get dressed in the morning.

I'll wear the black tshirt and jeans
No wait then my shoes won't match
ok I'll wear the black shoes
No wait it might be warm
I'll wear shorts
No wait then the shoes won't match
Ok I'll wear sandals
No wait Mum doesn't like the sandals
I'll wear shoes and the jeans
No wait the jeans are dirty etc etc etc

33s will fit. If you get a set of 33 x 10.50 x15 BFG mus they will fit on stock 7" rims. These combined with a 3" lift is a great combo. They fit, they tuck in nicely without the need for any trimming, they don't strees components due to the leverage being less. they work great in Victorian conditions where I think a skinny tyre is a better option (No don't argue this or we will have 10 more pages just my opinion). But in the long run just do something. Everyone always wishes they did something different on their first major mod. We learn from it and move on. But we do it we don't spend 2 weeks asking the same questions.

Sell it and buy a Go Go mobile and drive it down cafe latte street. Or better yet catch a tram and let the driver do the thinking and driving.


Fer fark sake son I just read ten pages of shyt to arrive at a conclusion that you still do not know what to do with your truck.


Okay your a student, ya dont want to spend money and eat soup powder with Chum for nothing do yer. I understand you want the best initial outcome for your dollar.

You have a traction aid already so no probs there you say it has Koni suspension so it is already lifted? REMEMBER a stock GQ shorty looks as low a Celica. Which leads me to believe that the advice to fit tyres and get on with was sound. 33's be fine buy a second hand set should be on the road under a G. Keep the 31's as you save money do that the 33's ill last forever and you might get a fair bit of your dosh back if and when you decide to jack and tyre the piss out of it.

Really a GQ shorty is never going to become a classic/vintage and it wont appreciate but they will bottom out in 2nd hand resale so by scracting and that not a real drama.

Chop it when it needs choppin if your a metro Dudelux type of guy then don't chop it if looks are your thing but understand what you have already been told works in the physical limits of the original design and shape of the truck or else the tyres will do the choppin for ya.


Sway bars on or off. Take em off drive it if ya like it leave it if ya don't put em back on experiment! 1 hour of your time max.

But know before you drive it without em it will handle different go easy till you adapt to the new dynamics.

IS IT WORTH FULL COMPO? ask your self the question. If it is a POS GQ maybe not worth it. Just 3rd fire and theft maybe save yourself some money. Anything under say 10k for me isn't worth it in MY CASE but in your it might be. (mmmm being a student it may be under fianance if so ignore all of the above).

Cheezy is your prefered shop by the sounds of it listen to him and get the shyt done!


Personally I would just whack some second hand tyres on it and drive it.

Then after you have driven it some more do the lifts and other crap you have been thinkin of.

But by the love of GOD and the Power of GREY SKULL do something

Grade A tech there HM, nice work Singo.

Nice touch with the HE-MAN reference too.

Style (SWB/LWB/Cab Chassis):SWB
Tyre size:37" 12.5
Spring lift:3.5"........sooon to be 5"
Body lift:2"
Trimmed panelwork (yes/no):yes
Engineer certified (yes/no):not yet ......but will be with stock treadlys
Legitimately registered (yes/no):yes
Legitimately insured (yes/no):[/quote]arhhhhh i do pay it

grimbo wrote:Holy Crap. What a read. How do you get dressed in the morning.

I'll wear the black tshirt and jeans
No wait then my shoes won't match
ok I'll wear the black shoes
No wait it might be warm
I'll wear shorts
No wait then the shoes won't match
Ok I'll wear sandals
No wait Mum doesn't like the sandals
I'll wear shoes and the jeans
No wait the jeans are dirty etc etc etc
.

A1MAV wrote:Tyre size:37" 12.5
Engineer certified (yes/no):not yet ......but will be with stock treadlys

If you run 37s all the time why bother with engineers for the rest? Just interested to see thats all...

bogged wrote:

A1MAV wrote:Tyre size:37" 12.5
Engineer certified (yes/no):not yet ......but will be with stock treadlys

If you run 37s all the time why bother with engineers for the rest? Just interested to see thats all...

Minimises the PING value I guess.

Hottie..

Going bigger on tires changes your gearing too (obvious).. Larger diameter etc.

Look on your compliance plate for HG41 or HG43 etc.. thats your diff ratios.

If you have 4.1's with 31's on, you should change to 4.3 to run 33 and 4.6 to run 35s if you want standard gearing. 4.6 is pretty much what everyone likes, except some hardcore tools, with 4.88's or our lucky romanian friend with 5.12's but they come from the factory with 38's and shit over there.