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Youve wheeled on both the treps and these on the same terrain wicked ?

Z()LTAN wrote:Youve wheeled on both the treps and these on the same terrain wicked ?

Same location no.
Same terrain yes.

WICKED wrote:

Z()LTAN wrote:Youve wheeled on both the treps and these on the same terrain wicked ?

Same location no.
Same terrain yes.

So whats your veiw on the pro's and con's of two tires then?

HANCOCK wrote:

WICKED wrote:

Z()LTAN wrote:Youve wheeled on both the treps and these on the same terrain wicked ?

Same location no.
Same terrain yes.

So whats your veiw on the pro's and con's of two tires then?

I'm worried about the sidewall on the mt/r's, treapadors that was never a thought.
Haven't done much wheeling yet but I think the grip of the treapadors is Nothing on the Mt/r's.

Hopefully the sidewall is all good for you! There seemed to be a fair few blown on the hammers DVD

evanstaniland wrote:Hopefully the sidewall is all good for you! There seemed to be a fair few blown on the hammers DVD

Moonyham did 5 :o
Hopefully that's a speed an rock mix, not just rocks

That's a bugger. Seems the jury is still out on this one. Keep us updated on how they go wicked.

WICKED wrote:

evanstaniland wrote:Hopefully the sidewall is all good for you! There seemed to be a fair few blown on the hammers DVD

Moonyham did 5 :o
Hopefully that's a speed an rock mix, not just rocks

There was alot more that got flats at KOH on these than what the DVD said... Campbell also got a few.. the KM2 were an awesome tyre but one of the highest puncher rates over all others tyres running id say...
I watched Ben Napier fit a brand new set thursday before the race and they were all but destroyed after race..cuts, chunks out of them everywhere.. but they are super soft and a dick load of grip..
You have to remember KOH runs speeds up to and more than 200km through the desert hitting woops and tuffs of grass for 280kms or so..

For what your doing Ben these will be fantastic.. and give the BFG red labels a run for there money..

MogLux wrote:

WICKED wrote:

evanstaniland wrote:Hopefully the sidewall is all good for you! There seemed to be a fair few blown on the hammers DVD

Moonyham did 5 :o
Hopefully that's a speed an rock mix, not just rocks

There was alot more that got flats at KOH on these than what the DVD said... Campbell also got a few.. the KM2 were an awesome tyre but one of the highest puncher rates over all others tyres running id say...
I watched Ben Napier fit a brand new set thursday before the race and they were all but destroyed after race..cuts, chunks out of them everywhere.. but they are super soft and a dick load of grip..
You have to remember KOH runs speeds up to and more than 200km through the desert hitting woops and tuffs of grass for 280kms or so..

For what your doing Ben these will be fantastic.. and give the BFG red labels a run for there money..

If def90 ever gets his junk built we'll be able to see if the MT/Rs do smack the BFG reds. He took delivery of his 42" reds yesterday. Sweet looking tyre.

Micka wrote:

MogLux wrote:

WICKED wrote:

evanstaniland wrote:Hopefully the sidewall is all good for you! There seemed to be a fair few blown on the hammers DVD

Moonyham did 5 :o
Hopefully that's a speed an rock mix, not just rocks

There was alot more that got flats at KOH on these than what the DVD said... Campbell also got a few.. the KM2 were an awesome tyre but one of the highest puncher rates over all others tyres running id say...
I watched Ben Napier fit a brand new set thursday before the race and they were all but destroyed after race..cuts, chunks out of them everywhere.. but they are super soft and a dick load of grip..
You have to remember KOH runs speeds up to and more than 200km through the desert hitting woops and tuffs of grass for 280kms or so..

For what your doing Ben these will be fantastic.. and give the BFG red labels a run for there money..

If def90 ever gets his junk built we'll be able to see if the MT/Rs do smack the BFG reds. He took delivery of his 42" reds yesterday. Sweet looking tyre.

As I see it mick, sam's 42" red lables will never move under there own power too show me up.

WICKED wrote:As I see it mick, sam's 42" red lables will never move under there own power too show me up.

FACT!

a warning to all out there had 8 mtr kevelar 305 on 16 would never balance no mater what rim we tried eventually they refunded me but only 50% on all 8 when they were never any good from the startand had accelerated wear from un balance now have mickey thompsons again and happy with mt

If your going to run them on road they are hard to balance yes, my tyre shop groans when i come in and there is always a massive amount of weight placed on them and i can never seem to keep them balanced for long.

I've got them in 315/75/16's no problems here. My guess is you got a bad batch. Happens to the best of brands.

No they are a notoriously hard to balance tyre worldwide.

I've had 2 sets of MTR's. One set were crap to keep balanced, the 2nd were OK just. If you didn't rotate a max. of every 5K they would go bad.


brooksy

MJ80 wrote:If your going to run them on road they are hard to balance yes, my tyre shop groans when i come in and there is always a massive amount of weight placed on them and i can never seem to keep them balanced for long.

I run the same size on steelies. been almost 2 years now. Absolutely love em. They are starting to howl a little on the road now but where suprisingly quite for an aggressive tyre when new.

No problems with balancing, I rotate them every 5,000km.

Theres 9-10 mm left on em.

I love my Tyres, I really do..... but I HIGHLY doubt I'll ever buy Goodyear again. Even on a street car.

The tyre below has been driven on for 6hrs maybe. I did 4 (20-25min) courses at tough tracks and half a day of social wheeling (3odd hours of down with busted hydraulic line)

I've taken it too Goodyear Aus, Goodyear Aus Motorsports, Fourbys, spoken too guys on the USA, and OPW (where I got the Tyres)

Everyone that has seen the tyre or pics has said it's a clear manufactures failure (belt missing)
3 cords have "popped" out and the rubber in the area is around 4-5mm thick where as the rest if the tyre is 13-14mm

I'm having the tyre patched. I'm lead to believe the USA supply is being nothing but a pain. Goodyear Aus wouldn't even write a letter for me (not there tyre or problem, but I only asked for a letter) OPW offered me store credit (if I returned the tyre) but it would have cost me $350+ to by a replacement tyre (43" SX)


I'm not having a go at Pete/OPW, it's just a shit situation. And Goodyear have been so freaking painful and i doubt ill go near them again.


Pics and video -

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Vid

Guy applying light pressure from the inside.

Where is missing belt and rubber ment too be? I can't see anything abnormal, everything on the inside and outside looks uniform too me.
Have you checked you other tyres? Are they the same?

Oh well benny, i suppose u'll stop giving me crap about my krawlers now;)

When u finger them in person sim u would understand the problem

That's clearly a manufacturing defect. Have you tried the Office of Fair Trading?

SIM79 wrote:Where is missing belt and rubber ment too be? I can't see anything abnormal, everything on the inside and outside looks uniform too me.
Have you checked you other tyres? Are they the same?

There is approx a 75mm round hole (as seen in the vid) where a belt cross over ( imagine an X ) is missing. Meaning there is no rubber there. Hence the thickness difference.

Goodyear Motorsport claim they X-ray all comp Tyres before they leave the factory. Fail
A to have no support is a kick in the teeth. Thanks Goodyear.

I've also fingered these and they just plain stink.

I can see it now in the pic, a slight ripple-fold starting in the center of tyre which then goes across to the hole .

Thats crap, I'd check all the tyres, it might be worth while taking Pete up on his offer.

I'm sure ben wouldnt want to try to take opw to fair trading, i'm sure it would fall into a personal imports, and their just his freight service......stinky goodyears....

SIM79 wrote:I can see it now in the pic, a slight ripple-fold starting in the center of tyre which then goes across to the hole .

Thats crap, I'd check all the tyres, it might be worth while taking Pete up on his offer.

All other Tyres have been stripped from the rims and been checked.... But this should have never left te factory so who knows.

I'm not paying the difference plus freighting this tyre to Pete and the new one here.

def90 wrote:I'm sure ben wouldnt want to try to take opw to fair trading, i'm sure it would fall into a personal imports, and their just his freight service......stinky goodyears....

No matter the person or business if I thought they where doing wrong/against the law, it'd have no issues pushing it.

Pete/OPW has been good about the whole thing. As I said above, it's a shit situation. I've lost money. Pete's been put in the middle (person I purchased from) and the company in the USA and Goodyear are being roosters about it.

I'm disappointed in Goodyear USA.

GRIMACE wrote:

WICKED wrote:

SIM79 wrote:I would love some krawlers

Kevlar mtrs

gheyest tyre ever!

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