Outer Limits 4x4 Board

greg wrote:True, they do appear to be at full compression when sitting at ride height... Perhaps mick has bumpstopped the car to sit like this? It would definately be an easy way to get the car to sit nice and low

it is sprung over, no need for those arched 2inch OME springs, they sit dead flat.

I have about 1 inch to 1 1/2 inches of up travel on a 14inch travel shock. It uses basically all of the down travel available too.

mickbj42 wrote:

redzook wrote:but how will the spring extend when it is already flat. It can only get shorter

you already answered the question

i forgot to put a fullstop in

i was proving grimbo rong

Sorry Mick, what i meant was - in the pictures above your front springs appear to be sitting flat, and the shackle appears to be maxed out to full compression...

Is this the ride height that your car sits at?

greg wrote:

mickbj42 wrote:Because the springs are perfectly flat the shackle on compression and extension will always pull forward.

Does that mean that your ride hight is effectively sitting at full compression? Is it bumpstopped at that point too?

That would definatly be the easiest way to get the car to sit as low as possible all the time - though i gather it would result in a bumpy side... how does it go?

i just sort of answered this but i will answer it again anyway. Everyone is too fast on the replies!

On the front it has at the shock set up with about an inch of up travel on it. I could set it up so it had more but the tyres will eat into the firewall too much. The shock is pretty much my bumpstop. I know thats a bit of a no-no but i havent had a problem with it so far.

It rides all right, the shackles make a bit of a clunk on big bumps bit its not too bad.

The rear is set so it has about 1/4 compression, 3/4 droop. I think they are a 12 inch shock on the rear.

greg wrote:Sorry Mick, what i meant was - in the pictures above your front springs appear to be sitting flat, and the shackle appears to be maxed out to full compression...

Is this the ride height that your car sits at?

yeah the pic is at ride height. With the flat springs i have in the front on compression of the spring the shackle swings away from the chassis. If you have an arched spring as the spring compresses it gets longer so the shackle swings backwards.

thanks mate - it all makes good sense now.

cheers.

greg wrote: the shackle appears to be maxed out to full compression...

Is this the ride height that your car sits at?

it looks like his ride hight
an the shackle will come forward under compression so the only thing thats stops the up travel is his shock

damn to slow

Any updates????

here are a few pics as it stands right now.

Just had the rims offset

nice work cant wait to see this thing in action

Ditto,

nice work

schmick

a few more i didnt post earlier

another one

Man that things looking sweet now.

a pic of the the offset 8 inch rim. I also repositioned the valve stem in close to centre to avoid getting ripped off.

mickbj42 wrote:a pic of the the offset 8 inch rim. I also repositioned the valve stem in close to centre to avoid getting ripped off.

Sweet, what was the offset before/after you had the rim modified??

they were just standard hilux/cruiser offset. Now, without the 2 inch spacers, it is about 50mm wider than it was.

I have got some IFS hubs to go on the front for a bit more width, and will get an ifs rear when i find one for the right price.

How massive is the scrub radius Mick? It looks like it must take a fair arc to turn that tyre?

greg wrote:How massive is the scrub radius Mick? It looks like it must take a fair arc to turn that tyre?

not much more than running 2 inch spacers and quite a bit less than running 3 inch spacers

How far forward is the front axel from the firewall? Or at least - how far forward did you move it? That's where i thought it would rub, but evidently it doesn't...

it doesnt hit the firewall but i cut it out nearly to the door. I have reare up front with the centre bolt drilled 4 inches forward. I am having a few issues with the front springs wrapping up so i am going to put some hilux fronts in.

I also bent a set of rear springs so i am putting hilux fronts in there too.

I am going out on thursday for a photo shoot so i will get the rears done for then but the fronts will be done after that.

Sweet... so i guess that makes the front diff about 1" (rears up front conversion) + 4" (redrilled holes) = 5" forward...

Sounds good

mickbj42 wrote:a pic of the the offset 8 inch rim. I also repositioned the valve stem in close to centre to avoid getting ripped off.

Those rims look familiar My valves are not that far in though But they beat using spacers

Hey Mick, was just wondering if you could post up some close ups of this area when you could.

Steve

i dont have any batteries for my camera at the moment.

There is just a piece of 3mm flat that bolts onto the door hinge bolts. I have then welded the tube to the flat.

When i get some batteries i will take some shots if i remember

did you enter woodpecker?

how'd you go?

Saw this truck at Woodpecker today...AWESOME. Really inspired me to finish off mine....

Oh and I forgot to ask you about the change to the traction bar in the rear. Why that design?

N*A*M wrote:did you enter woodpecker?

how'd you go?

I was the first car on the track. It did it all easy up until cv rock. I got over it but broke the bunting when it bounced sideways. Gonads and fergo said to give it some numbers so i gave it some I should have just winched it like everyone else ended up doing.