Tough Dog Tuff Truck Challenge 2009

[GQ4B]

Is 4wd TV doing the DVD again this year? There is no mention of them on the TT site

4wd TV don't seem to have listed it as an event on their '09 calendar either..? http://www.4wdtv.com.au/calendar.html

Looks like there's no involvement this year..?

[Mark M]

Ladies & Gentlemen,

Here are a few current number crunching figures - currently on the TTC site there is 11,387 total votes, if you divide this number by 15 (points per mag) you get approximately (rounded up) 760 mags at a RRP cost of $9.90 you have a cost of $7,524

Now of those 11,387 votes, i have delivered 3616 thus far, also i have at home filled out forms, totalling another 2945 votes still to be delivered.

So once i deliver to TTC they will then have a grand total of 14,332 votes, divided by 15 you get 955 mags at RRP costs of $9.90 you get a total of $9,455 (rounded up).

However, we must not forget about all those teams still to hand in voting slips & the teams who are stategically hanging onto a large handful of votes to drop off in the last week, so lets assume about another 5,668 votes, divided by 15 you get about 378 mags (rounded up) at RRP of $9.90 you get a total of $3,742.2.

So to round everything evenly up to a grand total of 20,000 votes, (WHICH I'M SURE WE WILL GET VERY CLOSE TO) - divided by 15 you get 1,333.3333 mags at RRP cost of $9.90 you get a total of $13,199.999 spent.

The 3 important facts to gain from all of this is -

1. lots of money being spent on magazines, just to get in the comp.

2. Awesome support from 24 competitor teams & a total of $6,914 raised for charity so far!

3. last but not least & i will leave the final maths to YOU, when all these new votes hit the TTC site - HOW ARE YOU, OR YOUR TEAM, GOING TO BE POSITIONED IN THE FINAL RUNNING ORDER?

Do something about it! & Don't leave it to chance!

Now there is some food for thought!

Regards

[Mark M]

Run order, Team Name & current points
1 Evolution 1000
2 Total Care 4WD 999
3 BBMad Fab 998
4 Chubby2 849
5 Lovells Newy Crew 674
6 Thornton Home H/ware Racing 547
7 Barbie 539
8 AT4 Suzzy Q 513
9 HiTech 4x4 452
10 Pirate 422
11 Lowie & Bowie Engineering 415
13 Outback Adventures 407
12 Long Shot Racing 402
14 West End Boys 384
15 Fourby's 351
17 Advanti Racing 347
16 Bandaged Bear 334
20 Bright Sparks Tigerz 11 333
18 Energized Racing 332
19 Run-A-Muck 291
28 The Big White Fridge 275
22 C44F 'Ol Skool 274
21 Anabolic 272
23 Bundy 251
24 Just Cruisin 238
25 DGR 236
26 Rumble Rock Toy 223
27 CAP51Z 202
30 Rush 192
29 Salt & Pepper 189
32 MOG 166
31 Raw 4x4 157
34 TLCC 152
33 Toyuki 151
35 Lil Aussie Battler 140
36 Scum Lux 123
41 ABT Firetruck 102
39 Red Bitch 100
37 Adrenalin 98
40 OPW 96
38 Low Rider 85
42 Black Betty 38
43 ACID 35

Currents points & run order as at 27.2.09

Regards

[MjWatt]

cheers mark, you must of read some of our minds... I was thinking about it yesterday... wrt whos place where currently and and the order.. etc.

Cant wait, should be an awsome few days!!!!!!

[nissan_onroids]

Thanks for the number crunching Mark.We'll just keep an eye on things over the next week and if we need help,we'll use the secret weapon,well sort of secret.

[[gubeaut]]

Is 4wd TV doing the DVD again this year? There is no mention of them on the TT site

4wd TV don't seem to have listed it as an event on their '09 calendar either..? http://www.4wdtv.com.au/calendar.html

Looks like there's no involvement this year..?

definately not.the guy's doing the scruitineering in bris said today that there were some other people they are looking at doing it and that 4wdtv are not going to be covering the event.Don't quote me on it but i heard ithey weren't happy with the dvd last year

[r_sol]

That’s funny Ball sack is hanging on by a few pubic hairs

[Rhett]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

[Mark M]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

Rhett,

I was asked to provide body panels that comply with the 50% side profile rule, Now Garth has done far more work than what is required in the RULES!

My truck started life off as a tray back, & therefore only ever needed doors to meet the 50% side profile rule!

Now I attended the mandatory pre scrutineering at BBM, & THEY (the officials) PASSED my vechicle with flying colours! -

This is all i really care about!

Regards

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

it looks different to 08.-more full bodied i believe.
whether or not it complied in 2008 well i think you can make your own mind up on that one?

[Mark M]

Ladies & Gentlemen,

I would like to thank all those Teams who have so generously donated money to the Westmead Children's Hospital.

I would also like to note that for you generous donations, i was, & still am happy to match them dollar for dollar with excess votes i have left over from my own purchases for my own scoring.

Kind Regards

[evanstaniland]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

Rhett,

I was asked to provide body panels that comply with the 50% side profile rule, Now Garth has done far more work than what is required in the RULES!

My truck started life off as a tray back, & therefore only ever needed doors to meet the 50% side profile rule!

Now I attended the mandatory pre scrutineering at BBM, & THEY (the officials) PASSED my vechicle with flying colours! -

This is all i really care about!

Regards

you didnt really answer the question there and i am also seriously interested :
are your doors classified as re-made body panels ?

Evan

[Mark M]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

Rhett,

I was asked to provide body panels that comply with the 50% side profile rule, Now Garth has done far more work than what is required in the RULES!

My truck started life off as a tray back, & therefore only ever needed doors to meet the 50% side profile rule!

Now I attended the mandatory pre scrutineering at BBM, & THEY (the officials) PASSED my vechicle with flying colours! -

This is all i really care about!

Regards

you didnt really answer the question there and i am also seriously interested :
are your doors classified as re-made body panels ?

Evan

Evan,

It's not my position to answer! ASK THE OFFICIALS - & see how they classify them!

I really don't care -

Regards

[nissan_onroids]

i think every one should stop tryin to find something to pick on Marks car or him with.He has and is doing alot for this comp and the sport i dont see many others doing as much as him. The officials pasted the car at scrutineering thats all that matters its not up to any one else to decide. I have seen the car numurous times and looks just like a suzuki. If no one likes it why bother entering then! like it or lump it... just go there drive, have fun and stop all the complaining!!

[A1]

Couldnt of SAID IT BETTER MYSELF

[Rhett]

I wasn't picking on the car I was asking a question as I have flat panels similar to marks and one day may like to compete.

[3.8BUNDY]

i think every one should stop tryin to find something to pick on Marks car or him with.He has and is doing alot for this comp and the sport i dont see many others doing as much as him. The officials pasted the car at scrutineering thats all that matters its not up to any one else to decide. I have seen the car numurous times and looks just like a suzuki. If no one likes it why bother entering then! like it or lump it... just go there drive, have fun and stop all the complaining!!

Agree
But if have a closer look at most threads.
It's NOT:

A LOT of people doing SOME complaining.

IT'S

SOME people doing a LOT of complaining

[A1]

I wasn't picking on the car I was asking a question as I have flat panels similar to marks and one day may like to compete.

I dont think it was aimed at You Rhett ...well I know mine wasnt



Dan

[Mark M]

It has been brought to my attenion by some concerned parties, in relation to the donations for charity, & the ATO's rules in receiving benefits for charity!

In this particular case, the supposed benefits are the higher positions in the running order! - much to my amazement & total disbelief

As mentioned in previous posts, i mearly pass on the charitable donations as a third party to the Westmead Childrens Hospital, and in response to your genorosity, i choose to give some votes from my person.

It is however, recommended that all parties seek their own personal Tax advice as to the deductions & how they they claim them!

However, i will personally call each & every person to discuss the ways to keep it separate.

With an extra $1 they will give to me at the event & in return i will give them a receipt for the $1, this will keep the donation & benefits separate.


Regards

[MjWatt]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

[Mark M]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

Yeh i know! - Sorry for all this Crap - i am forced by certain parties to do this!

You should see the paper work i have got to do know! -

Anyway - i won't be doing this ever again, that's for sure!

Regards

[B.D.R]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

Yeh i know! - Sorry for all this Crap - i am forced by certain parties to do this!

You should see the paper work i have got to do know! -

Anyway - i won't be doing this ever again, that's for sure!

Regards

That's a start, i don't think this should of been alowed to happen in the first place.

[MjWatt]

soooooo

hows everyone's prep going???

everything going to plan?

less than 27 days!!!

[Tuff Events]

Mark, just a quick question, are your doors classified as re-made body panels to pass the 50% side profile rule? (this is a serious question Im not having a go at your rig)
Cheers Rhett

Rhett,

I was asked to provide body panels that comply with the 50% side profile rule, Now Garth has done far more work than what is required in the RULES!

My truck started life off as a tray back, & therefore only ever needed doors to meet the 50% side profile rule!

Now I attended the mandatory pre scrutineering at BBM, & THEY (the officials) PASSED my vechicle with flying colours! -

This is all i really care about!

Regards

you didnt really answer the question there and i am also seriously interested :
are your doors classified as re-made body panels ?

Evan

They are remade body panels that have been approved by TTC.

[antt]

are there any pics of this mystery machine on the net? or is it top secret till the comp??

[Mark M]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

Yeh i know! - Sorry for all this Crap - i am forced by certain parties to do this!

You should see the paper work i have got to do know! -

Anyway - i won't be doing this ever again, that's for sure!

Regards

That's a start, i don't think this should of been alowed to happen in the first place.

You are entitled to you opinion, however i don't agree with you!

Maybe next year if the voting system stays the same, i will buy heaps of mags again & GIVE votes to the teams i like - i suppose it's the same as the public doing it - either way it's still manipulating the running order - isn't it?

Actually, the more i thinks about it, i might drop many thousands of votes in & make every driver equal in points - That would be interesting!

Then what? -

Where is your positive input or solution?

Don't knock it - if you have absolutely no idea's on how to fix it!

[Tuff Events]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

Yeh i know! - Sorry for all this Crap - i am forced by certain parties to do this!

You should see the paper work i have got to do know! -

Anyway - i won't be doing this ever again, that's for sure!

Regards

That's a start, i don't think this should of been alowed to happen in the first place.

Well at least its for a good cause & even without it I doubt it would change the results of who gets in anyway. So really wats the big deal.
Voting sux anyway. I reckon it should be first 3 place getters from previous 2-3 years. 25-30 out of a hat type draw & 5-10 TTC / Sponsors picks.

[Mark M]

im so lost!


I just wanta talk about big arse rigs driving hardcore tracks!!!
bring it on!!!!

Yeh i know! - Sorry for all this Crap - i am forced by certain parties to do this!

You should see the paper work i have got to do know! -

Anyway - i won't be doing this ever again, that's for sure!

Regards

That's a start, i don't think this should of been alowed to happen in the first place.

Well at least its for a good cause & even without it I doubt it would change the results of who gets in anyway. So really wats the big deal.
Voting sux anyway. I reckon it should be first 3 place getters from previous 2-3 years. 25-30 out of a hat type draw & 5-10 TTC / Sponsors picks.

I agree fully,

It would put an end to all the negativity.

Regards

[Mark M]

are there any pics of this mystery machine on the net? or is it top secret till the comp??

Yeah!

Its back on page 6, but its going to have a little less front profile, much less side profile & quite abit of the chassis taken out, and be sporting a nissan badge!

Regards

[Mark M]

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