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Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:30 pm**

Not really much gas. You would be suprised how fast it heats up with a large tip. Gas is also not a problem when you use trade schools gas. :twisted:

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:37 pm**

The oxy trick sounds good but if you are doing a cams spec cage or a cage that is ment to be strong, you cant heat up the tube as this will anneal (soften) the tube. :cry:

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:29 pm**

Cheezy4x4 wrote:The oxy trick sounds good but if you are doing a cams spec cage or a cage that is ment to be strong, you cant heat up the tube as this will anneal (soften) the tube.

That's what I was thinking to myself too.

ANTT Get your dies from Queensland Trade Tools. About $80 for a 32NB and I also have a 25NB but forgotten the $$.

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:30 pm**

beebee wrote:
Cheezy4x4 wrote:The oxy trick sounds good but if you are doing a cams spec cage or a cage that is ment to be strong, you cant heat up the tube as this will anneal (soften) the tube.

That's what I was thinking to myself too.

ANTT Get your dies from Queensland Trade Tools. About $80 for a 32NB and I also have a 25NB but forgotten the $$.

cool, thanks, i sent you a pm about 2 seconds ago :lol:

, so just ignore it

Posted: **Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:35 pm**

antt wrote:
beebee wrote:
Cheezy4x4 wrote:The oxy trick sounds good but if you are doing a cams spec cage or a cage that is ment to be strong, you cant heat up the tube as this will anneal (soften) the tube.

That's what I was thinking to myself too.

ANTT Get your dies from Queensland Trade Tools. About $80 for a 32NB and I also have a 25NB but forgotten the $$.

cool, thanks, i sent you a pm about 2 seconds ago , so just ignore it

Consider yourself ingored :finger:

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 10:33 am**

well, finally bit the bullet and ordered one of these today

trade tools reckon they don't carry them anymore, so he sent me round the corner to blackwoods (didn't even know it was there till today). ended up being $107.80 and it has to come from melbourne so will take a week to get here

i ordered the one that had 32mm next to it so hopefully its the right size

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 11:30 am**

Let me know how it goes dude, I'm about to purchase one too

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 11:45 am**

mj wrote:Let me know how it goes dude, I'm about to purchase one too

no worries dude, it'll be getting a workout building a rear bar for mine, bar for my mates cruiser, brush bars for the cruiser, sliders for mine, then exo

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 12:40 pm**

yep 32mm is the one. that is what i bent all the shit on my buggy thing with.
onesteel was the cheapest i found for the steel. $8.50 a metre for the 3.56mm wall seamless. the onesteel product number is PS6-422-36-6m

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 1:01 pm**

cheers wendle, good to know i could build a buggy with the thing if the need ever arises :twisted:

i bet you've got monster arms now from using the hydralic jack doing all those bends for the buggy frame

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 8:06 pm**

calton were did you buy yer steel from ? we just got a new pipe bender at work and soon to be getting a couple of migs so will be building a full cage and rear bar . got any pics of yer buggy progress ? if so could ya email some pics !

cheers Jai

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 9:19 pm**

I had the same problem with the rollers denting the tube.
solved it by buying some 75mm od actetyl rod from plastics supplier and machining new rollers with the correct size depression for the tube being bent. no more dents.
material cost ~$30 for 300mm, enough to do two rollers.
machined them on a wood lathe.
have done quite a few bends and the bender frame base deforms and there is no damage to the rollers, so the acetyl material seems to be a reasonable choice.
I'm using dawn formers in a cheapy bender, both from a mans toyshop in Rockhampton.

Cheers
Daryl

Posted: **Wed May 05, 2004 10:53 pm**

derangedrover wrote:I had the same problem with the rollers denting the tube.
solved it by buying some 75mm od actetyl rod from plastics supplier and machining new rollers with the correct size depression for the tube being bent. no more dents.
material cost ~$30 for 300mm, enough to do two rollers.
machined them on a wood lathe.
have done quite a few bends and the bender frame base deforms and there is no damage to the rollers, so the acetyl material seems to be a reasonable choice.
I'm using dawn formers in a cheapy bender, both from a mans toyshop in Rockhampton.

Cheers
Daryl

nice work daryl

acetal is funky stuff and that's a great idea

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2004 8:09 am**

stressed wrote:calton were did you buy yer steel from ? we just got a new pipe bender at work and soon to be getting a couple of migs so will be building a full cage and rear bar . got any pics of yer buggy progress ? if so could ya email some pics !

cheers Jai

onesteel in hume. pics sent, they are on here somewhere anyway..

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2004 12:57 pm**

Anyone got pics of the actaul benders that they are using ???

The acetyl rollers is a great idea ...

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2004 3:26 pm**

love_mud wrote:Anyone got pics of the actaul benders that they are using ???

The acetyl rollers is a great idea ...

Posted: **Thu May 06, 2004 4:49 pm**

Wendle wrote:
love_mud wrote:Anyone got pics of the actaul benders that they are using ???

The acetyl rollers is a great idea ...

Thanks wendle .. thats the kind I thought you were on about .. but it;s better to ask a free question befroe I lay down the $$$ and find I have some unworkable bit of crap ..

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2004 11:53 am**

well, got the die this morning from blackwoods, should be putting it to the test on saturday

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2004 11:54 am**

a couple more, the gap is about 43mm i think

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2004 12:46 pm**

you need to make a little adapter if you are using the red chinese bender.
25NB schedule 160 just haapens to be a perfect fit, which was cool, cause i have heaps of it. :cool:

you just need something about 33mm OD, 20mm ID and about 25mm long.

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2004 1:02 pm**

Wendle wrote:you need to make a little adapter if you are using the red chinese bender.
25NB schedule 160 just haapens to be a perfect fit, which was cool, cause i have heaps of it.
you just need something about 33mm OD, 20mm ID and about 25mm long.

yeah, was looking at that wendle, might have to turn something up on the lathe

Posted: **Wed May 12, 2004 1:46 pm**

antt wrote:
Wendle wrote:you need to make a little adapter if you are using the red chinese bender.
25NB schedule 160 just haapens to be a perfect fit, which was cool, cause i have heaps of it.
you just need something about 33mm OD, 20mm ID and about 25mm long.

yeah, was looking at that wendle, might have to turn something up on the lathe

buy a stick of the aforementioned tube. you will end up using it for something, it is good for steering links and shit..

Posted: **Sun May 16, 2004 10:04 pm**

well, used this thing on saturday to do my rear bar and it works farking awesome, except for the dents in the pipes, will have to figure out what to do to fix that

we did a bend that was actually passed 90* and it didn't deform at all. like the others have said, these things are the way to go for a cheap bender. best $100 i've spent

Posted: **Sun May 16, 2004 10:09 pm**

so did you make an adapter for the die to the ram end? make me one too and post it to me :lol:

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2004 6:24 am**

Wendle wrote:you need to make a little adapter if you are using the red chinese bender.
25NB schedule 160 just haapens to be a perfect fit, which was cool, cause i have heaps of it.
you just need something about 33mm OD, 20mm ID and about 25mm long.

If i got 1 of those Super Cheap benders and used this set up will it work?

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2004 7:36 am**

antt wrote:works farking awesome, except for the dents in the pipes, will have to figure out what to do to fix that

move the rollers outwards, so the die isn't pushing straight against them.

Posted: **Mon May 17, 2004 7:39 am**

wendle, we had the rollers as close to the die as they could go without hitting it when it was pumped up, i'll give your idea a try

NAM, we didn't bother with an adaptor for it, once there was a little pressure on it, it worked fine and didn't move

carl coight, yep these things work with the supercheap benders, thats all we used on the weekend

Posted: **Tue May 18, 2004 5:11 pm**

That's great, thanks for the reply.

Carl

Posted: **Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:38 pm**

Sorry about the tread revival

but will the botle jack benders with the dawn dies bend 1 3/4 in dom tube 2.6mm wall ir the 1 1/4 dom 2.6mm wall as i'm looking at having a go at building a buggie but I'll have to get the steel freighted down from sydney and b4 i do i want to know if my bender will do the trick , can i practice with some steam pipe of the same size ??????????? thankx

Posted: **Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:04 am**

The Dawn dies are to suit Nominal Bore Pipe so I don't know how the sizing compares to DOM....

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