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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:04 pm
by Slunnie
Here are a few interesting price differences that I've had over the last few weeks. Examples all in Aus dollars:
2x 1310 Double cardin propshafts for a Disco2
Aus - $2000-2200
US - $1007 + $300 freight + no GST payable.
2x propshafts Rover to Toyota pattern
Aus - $1000-1400 in standard sizings
US - $700 + $280 freight in larger 1310 size + no GST payable
Canon 70-200 f2.8L
Aus - $2300 on Canon website
HK - $1300 with personal baggage + no GST payable
I'm all for shopping local, though not with these price differences. I still cant believe its cheaper to pay for shafts in the US and $300 in freight per pair than to head 10mins down the road to the driveshaft specialist. I assume its the dollar though.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:22 pm
by pongo
why not go and show the bloke, he may, MAY, meet the same $$
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:24 pm
by full-boost
i got a car charger for my iPaq, $70-$90 here, $21 delivered to my door from the states!
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:02 am
by zagan
lots of competetion over there.
Where I work they have a sprint car team, well they shipped to the USA, because it was getting too boring here for the owner.
Here you have to pay to get your own park at the track to setup in then you have to win to get some cash in your pocket $20-30,000 most of the time and that's coming number 1.
Over in the USA, they pay teams $15,000 to turn up at a race track the parts are next to bugger all to buy compared to Australia, and everyone is given cash for simply racing at the track on top, if you win you get paid big time, $50,000+ $100,000+ at some races.
over there the ARB parts are concidered to be very dear, but are 100% top of the line stuff they won't break and last for ages etc unlike some of the US made stuff.
Look around on the net for USA reviews of ARB or Australian 4wd products you'll find they complain about the price but once fitted they wouldn't trade it for another part.
That's the trade off I suppose.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:41 am
by Mowie
zagan wrote:over there the ARB parts are concidered to be very dear, but are 100% top of the line stuff they won't break and last for ages etc unlike some of the US made stuff.
Look around on the net for USA reviews of ARB or Australian 4wd products you'll find they complain about the price but once fitted they wouldn't trade it for another part.
That's the trade off I suppose.
There is no denying of ARB build qualtiy thats for sure.
I can see ARB's at play here trying to break into the US market where as you say they are at the pricey end of the scale. The pricing strategy would be to discount the product to be competative in the US and hope that volume of sales due to the market size balances things out.
I wonder if the Aussie dollar gets any stronger against the USD will ARB in the USA increase there price. If not I recomend walking into your local ARB and saying "match the price I can have this deliverd from the US for"
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:35 pm
by HIL01X
Surely if you can't get a locker for under $1100 here your not trying.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:06 pm
by zagan
HIL01X wrote:Surely if you can't get a locker for under $1100 here your not trying.
You can pick up one for $400 but do you want one to last or do you want it to break?
The same thing goes for the bullbars as well, over in the USA a full bullbar is what people class a nudge bar here in Australia.
It's just the metal loop in the centre, what it protects I have no idea, but that is what they class as a full bull bar, here a full bull bar is centre loops light loops, and have the bars up the side panels, with the sliders.
Then you can put winches, lights etc on it, you'd be lucky to find a USA bullbar able to fit lights etc to it.
it's quite odd I think, as if I was there I'd probably be like dundee saying "that's not a bullbar... This is a bullbar."
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:50 pm
by Loanrangie
GST is worked out on = invoice total + frieght + insurance then converted to AUD + import duty if applicable. If its made in the US by getting a USFTA certificate you will get it duty free but gst is still charged if over US $800 or so.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:40 pm
by Mowie
Loanrangie wrote:GST is worked out on = invoice total + frieght + insurance then converted to AUD + import duty if applicable. If its made in the US by getting a USFTA certificate you will get it duty free but gst is still charged if over US $800 or so.
$800 USD sounds about right as that is just under the $1000 AUD threashold I was quoted from Customs.
Get in quick while the Aussie Dollar stays above the $0.80 USD mark
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:18 am
by blkmav
Mowie wrote:Get in quick while the Aussie Dollar stays above the $0.80 USD mark
Agreed, I got 81 cents as the conversion rate for a US transaction last week
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:14 am
by bazooked
when i bout a heap of stuff for the zook came in ova 1k us, i i didnt pay any duties or gst, all ya have to do is tell the sender to write up a dodgy invoice for the goods, they did this for me with no questions asked and even offered it before i thought of it
, its quite simple
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:18 pm
by HIL01X
zagan wrote:HIL01X wrote:Surely if you can't get a locker for under $1100 here your not trying.
You can pick up one for $400 but do you want one to last or do you want it to break?
I meant ARB locker. I've got 3 of them and I will probably get another 1 soon and got a quote of $1050.
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:03 pm
by Mowie
HIL01X wrote:Surely if you can't get a locker for under $1100 here your not trying.
HIL01X wrote:I meant ARB locker. I've got 3 of them and I will probably get another 1 soon and got a quote of $1050.
Every price I've quoted so far has been advertised price, what your saying doesn't really affect what I'm looking at here.
Sure I could haggle the price here in Aus just like I could haggle the price from the US.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:55 am
by rojak
There is also the hassle factor and what that's worth to an individual.
Telephone calls, different time zones, payment,freight, insurance and the hassles from non delivery or late delivery and how much time that you have to fark around with these vs going to the store, buying it and taking it home.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:03 am
by Mulisha
rojak wrote:There is also the hassle factor and what that's worth to an individual.
Telephone calls, different time zones, payment,freight, insurance and the hassles from non delivery or late delivery and how much time that you have to fark around with these vs going to the store, buying it and taking it home.
X2
Usally when i want buy something i try getting it like the next day or that week haha
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:38 am
by bogged
Mowie wrote:I can see ARB's at play here trying to break into the US market where as you say they are at the pricey end of the scale
Trying to break into the US market??
yea, yanks have never had ARB lockers for 10 yrs.
The pricing strategy would be to discount the product to be competative in the US and hope that volume of sales due to the market size balances things out.
I wonder if the Aussie dollar gets any stronger against the USD will ARB in the USA increase there price. If not I recomend walking into your local ARB and saying "match the price I can have this deliverd from the US for"
As said, it aint hard to get lockers for $1100ish.. fuck all the bulllshit hassle of dealing with americans, then if it gets lost, insurance claims (ive had one with a camera lens from USA - it was a fuckin nightmare one end says its done there one says its done at this end - its now in hands of lawyers, into its 8th month at moment, Im down $1500 + Legals.)
for $100 and having it today, I'll goto local store, who can fit it too and get a better price on fitment if you buy from them.
YMMV
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:31 am
by Mowie
bogged wrote:Trying to break into the US market??
yea, yanks have never had ARB lockers for 10 yrs.
FFS bogged use your noggin a bit
They would of been an unknown by the majority in US 10yrs ago. Do you think that as mentioned previously ARB high price (in the mind of a yank who has other options and does not know the quality of the product) compared to alternatives avaiable already in the US lead them to discounting prices.
It must of taken a few years of word of mouth for sales to grow and I it might be the case that prices will go up on ARB lockers over there. Pure speculation I know.
I'm not advocating we all buy from across the pacific, I was pointing out the quirk that has come up with the rise in the Aussie Dollar against the US.
Maybe of use to some who don't mind the wait in having parts sent over.
YMMV, true, very true.