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Stupd Maruti Q
1996 WT.
Usual engine mount and radiator mounting issues.
Basically a grind and reweld of the engine mounts a bit further forward.
Then a clean-up and respray of the engine bay to hide the evidence. Whoops, i mean to make it all look pretty.
Rides like an absolute go-kart. I SERIOUSLY need some softer springs. If anyone in SE QLD has some laying around after they upgraded to 2" lifted ones, and wants to get rid of them, let me know.
Bit of a bummer about the 1l size diffs. I want to replace the complete front diff as i would need to overhaul both swivel hubs otherwise, and i have already had to bend the banana back to straight once already.
Puk.
P.S. I have almost hit 4 wallabies in the last month on my motorbike (or the same one 4 times, it could be a stalker), so i might leave the FUGLY bars on for now, even though i know the performance would be a little better without all the weight to contend with.
Usual engine mount and radiator mounting issues.
Basically a grind and reweld of the engine mounts a bit further forward.
Then a clean-up and respray of the engine bay to hide the evidence. Whoops, i mean to make it all look pretty.
Rides like an absolute go-kart. I SERIOUSLY need some softer springs. If anyone in SE QLD has some laying around after they upgraded to 2" lifted ones, and wants to get rid of them, let me know.
Bit of a bummer about the 1l size diffs. I want to replace the complete front diff as i would need to overhaul both swivel hubs otherwise, and i have already had to bend the banana back to straight once already.
Puk.
P.S. I have almost hit 4 wallabies in the last month on my motorbike (or the same one 4 times, it could be a stalker), so i might leave the FUGLY bars on for now, even though i know the performance would be a little better without all the weight to contend with.
Ha ha! Already hit one wallaby with them on. the ute would be a lot fuglier if i didn't have them!Zute wrote:Ditch the bars, they are fugly.
But i am thinking of dropping the side bars off, grinding off the outer "towers" and lifting the bar to meet the BL, leaving only the middle section for the spotties.
The wiring loom is different to the 1.3. It is the 1l loom.
Puk.
96 Jeep Cherokee Sport
*waaaaay out on limb*Remydog05 wrote:Anyone know if the Marutis have the same Wring loom as a 1.3WT??
OR is it 1L?? Should be very simlar shouldnt they??
Should be the same as 1.3. I would have though marutis had a regulated alternator, which would mean a 1.3 loom.
Steve.
[quote="greg"] some say he is a man without happy dreams, or that he sees silver linings on clouds and wonders why they are not platinum... all we know, is he's called the stevie.[/quote]
BUMP
Can anyone that has a 1ltr Maruti tell me if their car has/had (as standard) a catalytic converter on it?
Another random useless fact about maruti (well mine anyway and maybe others), the B pillar is a slightly different shape to a sierra, on a maruti near the roof line there are "indents" they dont allow a fibreglass canopy to seal properly
Can anyone that has a 1ltr Maruti tell me if their car has/had (as standard) a catalytic converter on it?
Another random useless fact about maruti (well mine anyway and maybe others), the B pillar is a slightly different shape to a sierra, on a maruti near the roof line there are "indents" they dont allow a fibreglass canopy to seal properly
wide track marutis have the following
- engine mounts are 1 litre
-gearbox bolt pattern is 1 litre
- 4 speed gearbox is 1.3 litre minus 5th gear[BUT WITH 1 LITRE PATTERN]
- diffs are widetrack with 1.3 centres running 4.09 ratios
- cv's are stronger
- transfer case is 1 litre gearing.
there is lots more to mention...............
- engine mounts are 1 litre
-gearbox bolt pattern is 1 litre
- 4 speed gearbox is 1.3 litre minus 5th gear[BUT WITH 1 LITRE PATTERN]
- diffs are widetrack with 1.3 centres running 4.09 ratios
- cv's are stronger
- transfer case is 1 litre gearing.
there is lots more to mention...............
Hey guys,
Sorry about the monster post, this is my first.... so many questions!
Just bought a '94 LWB MG410W - Suzuki/Maruti - Sierra/Stockman/Gypsy watchamathingy... with the flexigass Challenger top. It brushed up quite nicely after a cut and polish
.
Few things on the agenda to fix:
Brakes are hit and hope (pedal is pretty low - presumably rear drum linings are either clagged or out of adjustment), steering is very heavy (maybe tyre pressure? or maybe how they are without power steering??), and there is a bit of clunky backlash in top gear on decelleration (that one scares me a little.. although if its swapped with a reco 5 speed it may not matter).
I wanted to Ute'erise the back at some point, except I cant see how to get a good tonneau seal with those two tubular struts coming down behind the cabin - any ideas? Can anybody recommend somewhere in Brisbane that can do a clean job on a tonneau? I dont really want to pull the fibreglass top off and leave it open, would probably rust to pieces fairly quickly (currently its practically rust free)
I noticed that all the fibreglass seals on the canopy at the rear and the cabin roof have been silastic'ed to the max (making removal a major problem). I would like to remove the roof and maybe drop the front windscreen down occassionally (for driving around our property), am i asking for trouble by doing this?? is the (factory seal) resin top known to leak or was the previous owner just over zealous?
I am also interested in improving the engine/gearbox. Would like to know if its more cost effective upgrading the F10A - is it possible to unlock more performance from it? or is a second hand 1300 (or 1.6) the better option. Any compatibilty issues to watch out for with the Maruti? Have read quite a few threads on this, theres not much info on hotting up the 1 ltr motor though, everyone seems to go for the transplant. The engine in this has only done 68k so it seems like a waste of a low K motor getting an exchange.
Ideally I would like to run a 5 speed Gbox. I dont really follow the earlier comments about the 1ltr 4 speed gearbox in the Maruti, is it a downspecced 5 speed from a 1.3 already?? In which case can it be rebuilt with an overdrive 5th?
excuse the ignorance, i didnt realise the Maruti was such a mixed bag.. I have ordered a Haynes manual for the thing, after reading this thread I am starting to wonder how much will be applicable.
oh yeh - One more question... does anybody know the standard ride height for the car? The Stockman looks like its riding a little high, maybe had a 1" lift.. can anybody tell me how to check whether a suspension lift has been performed on it! may be handy to know i have the clearance if i do go for a bigger engine..
Cheers
Sorry about the monster post, this is my first.... so many questions!
Just bought a '94 LWB MG410W - Suzuki/Maruti - Sierra/Stockman/Gypsy watchamathingy... with the flexigass Challenger top. It brushed up quite nicely after a cut and polish
.Few things on the agenda to fix:
Brakes are hit and hope (pedal is pretty low - presumably rear drum linings are either clagged or out of adjustment), steering is very heavy (maybe tyre pressure? or maybe how they are without power steering??), and there is a bit of clunky backlash in top gear on decelleration (that one scares me a little.. although if its swapped with a reco 5 speed it may not matter).
I wanted to Ute'erise the back at some point, except I cant see how to get a good tonneau seal with those two tubular struts coming down behind the cabin - any ideas? Can anybody recommend somewhere in Brisbane that can do a clean job on a tonneau? I dont really want to pull the fibreglass top off and leave it open, would probably rust to pieces fairly quickly (currently its practically rust free)
I noticed that all the fibreglass seals on the canopy at the rear and the cabin roof have been silastic'ed to the max (making removal a major problem). I would like to remove the roof and maybe drop the front windscreen down occassionally (for driving around our property), am i asking for trouble by doing this?? is the (factory seal) resin top known to leak or was the previous owner just over zealous?
I am also interested in improving the engine/gearbox. Would like to know if its more cost effective upgrading the F10A - is it possible to unlock more performance from it? or is a second hand 1300 (or 1.6) the better option. Any compatibilty issues to watch out for with the Maruti? Have read quite a few threads on this, theres not much info on hotting up the 1 ltr motor though, everyone seems to go for the transplant. The engine in this has only done 68k so it seems like a waste of a low K motor getting an exchange.
Ideally I would like to run a 5 speed Gbox. I dont really follow the earlier comments about the 1ltr 4 speed gearbox in the Maruti, is it a downspecced 5 speed from a 1.3 already?? In which case can it be rebuilt with an overdrive 5th?
excuse the ignorance, i didnt realise the Maruti was such a mixed bag.. I have ordered a Haynes manual for the thing, after reading this thread I am starting to wonder how much will be applicable.oh yeh - One more question... does anybody know the standard ride height for the car? The Stockman looks like its riding a little high, maybe had a 1" lift.. can anybody tell me how to check whether a suspension lift has been performed on it! may be handy to know i have the clearance if i do go for a bigger engine..
Cheers
Hope that all make sensemrcurlywhirly wrote:Hey guys,
Sorry about the monster post, this is my first.... so many questions!
Just bought a '94 LWB MG410W - Suzuki/Maruti - Sierra/Stockman/Gypsy watchamathingy... with the flexigass Challenger top. It brushed up quite nicely after a cut and polish
Few things on the agenda to fix:
Brakes are hit and hope (pedal is pretty low - presumably rear drum linings are either clagged or out of adjustment),
probably what you said, from memory the rear drum are supoed to be self adjusting but I dont think they work too well?
steering is very heavy (maybe tyre pressure? or maybe how they are without power steering??) steering shouldn't be too heavy unless you are running larger tires
, and there is a bit of clunky backlash in top gear on decelleration (that one scares me a little.. although if its swapped with a reco 5 speed it may not matter). check you uni joints for play (dont forget the jackshaft)
I wanted to Ute'erise the back at some point, except I cant see how to get a good tonneau seal with those two tubular struts coming down behind the cabin - any ideas? most people on here get their tonneau covers made by maria mu canvas, she can make them to fit around the struts, search mu canvas or have a look at mu maruti whith windbreaker and cover here http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic107209.php you will need to either get a soft top sierra B pillar or just the aluminium brackets to hold the sides of a windbreaker if you get thatCan anybody recommend somewhere in Brisbane that can do a clean job on a tonneau? I dont really want to pull the fibreglass top off and leave it open, would probably rust to pieces fairly quickly (currently its practically rust free)
I noticed that all the fibreglass seals on the canopy at the rear and the cabin roof have been silastic'ed to the max (making removal a major problem). I would like to remove the roof and maybe drop the front windscreen down occassionally (for driving around our property), am i asking for trouble by doing this?? is the (factory seal) resin top known to leak or was the previous owner just over zealous?
My fibreglass top was siliconed on too the B pillar on my muruti is a different shape to a sierra B pillar so it doesn't seal properly, get rid of the silicon it will cause rust, my fibreglass roof leaks a little but nothing to worry about
I am also interested in improving the engine/gearbox. Would like to know if its more cost effective upgrading the F10A - is it possible to unlock more performance from it? or is a second hand 1300 (or 1.6) the better option. Any compatibilty issues to watch out for with the Maruti? Have read quite a few threads on this, theres not much info on hotting up the 1 ltr motor though, everyone seems to go for the transplant. The engine in this has only done 68k so it seems like a waste of a low K motor getting an exchange.
Dont bother doing up the 1ltr, my maruti "seems" to have the engine mounts in the right place for a 1.3 to bolt in, if your lucky it may be a very easy job. If you can afford it go for a MPFI 1.6 Vitara motor, if you cant go for the carby 1.6
Ideally I would like to run a 5 speed Gbox. I dont really follow the earlier comments about the 1ltr 4 speed gearbox in the Maruti, is it a downspecced 5 speed from a 1.3 already?? In which case can it be rebuilt with an overdrive 5th?
oh yeh - One more question... does anybody know the standard ride height for the car? The Stockman looks like its riding a little high, maybe had a 1" lift.. can anybody tell me how to check whether a suspension lift has been performed on it! may be handy to know i have the clearance if i do go for a bigger engine.. dont know the standard ride height, but a suspension lift isn't required (as far as I know?) to fit a different engine, you may need to do a body lift to fit a 1.6 or you may get away with using a 1.3 bonnet (with a hump)
Cheers
Brendan
P.S. Thanks Zute
Thanks for all the sage advice jaffa , from the look of your Maruti mods you should know your stuff. I have dropped an email to Maria to see what she can do. Will also check out the unis. I have no experience with Sierras, been more into VWs and bikes in the past. The truck doesnt make any clacking on full lock so perhaps its the jackshaft, will check it all out anyway.
Ideally I wanted to keep it looking as stock as possible (it is a stockman after all) so wanted to leave the cabin as is and retain the glass rear window, and just cover the tray.
Same applies to a future engine swap, didnt want to have to switch bonnets to accomodate unless absolutely necessary. How do you go getting a roadworthy with the bigger engine? is there a point where QLD transport will laugh you out the door?? I heard if its originally an available option (like the 413) in that model then it gets rubber stamped fairly easily (no engineering cert)- i presume that means up to 1.3 only, at what point do they need engineering signoff?
Was also wondering how the rest of the drivetrain handles extra power considering the standard motor is only around 30KW..
I remember seeing some guy trying to register his old rust bucket Morris Minor with a small V8 shoehorned into it down in Sydney - with the original drum brakes untouched. That turned into an ugly brawl in the RTA carpark!
BTW - if you were to rig up an axle through your tailgate you could turn yours into a 5wd, may be handy next time you go rock climbing..
Ideally I wanted to keep it looking as stock as possible (it is a stockman after all
) so wanted to leave the cabin as is and retain the glass rear window, and just cover the tray. Same applies to a future engine swap, didnt want to have to switch bonnets to accomodate unless absolutely necessary. How do you go getting a roadworthy with the bigger engine? is there a point where QLD transport will laugh you out the door?? I heard if its originally an available option (like the 413) in that model then it gets rubber stamped fairly easily (no engineering cert)- i presume that means up to 1.3 only, at what point do they need engineering signoff?
Was also wondering how the rest of the drivetrain handles extra power considering the standard motor is only around 30KW..
I remember seeing some guy trying to register his old rust bucket Morris Minor with a small V8 shoehorned into it down in Sydney - with the original drum brakes untouched. That turned into an ugly brawl in the RTA carpark!
BTW - if you were to rig up an axle through your tailgate you could turn yours into a 5wd, may be handy next time you go rock climbing..
My car isn't engineered, best advise I can give you is to speak to an engineer before you do ANYTHING, I wish I had. If my car was my daily driver I would try to get it engineered.mrcurlywhirly wrote:Same applies to a future engine swap, didnt want to have to switch bonnets to accomodate unless absolutely necessary. How do you go getting a roadworthy with the bigger engine? is there a point where QLD transport will laugh you out the door?? I heard if its originally an available option (like the 413) in that model then it gets rubber stamped fairly easily (no engineering cert)- i presume that means up to 1.3 only, at what point do they need engineering signoff?
Depends on alot of things like driving style, terrain, tyre size, gearing etc. The 1ltr diffs etc will be fine IMO with standard sized tyres and a 1.6. When you put bigger tyres on (any drivtrain) you are more likely to start doing CV's and uni's and possibly axles and diff centres, alot depends on gearing too. If you get bigger tyres you need to change you gearing, you will create alot more torque that will make it easier to blow CV's etc. Both my sierra's that I have owned have had 30" muddies and I havn't blown anything except for a gearbox.mrcurlywhirly wrote:Was also wondering how the rest of the drivetrain handles extra power considering the standard motor is only around 30KW..
If you have a search around and checkout the links in the bible there is heaps of info and almost all information for sierra's is the same for a maruti.
ive got a 1990 mg410 lwb i got it a couple of months ago with 6 months nsw reg and the best looking stainless steel bullbar (believe it or not) i have seen on a suzuki no rust or dents and brand new 2" lifted springs i paid $1500 for it after reading this it sounds like i did very well is the 1lt in this called a f10a? i will definatly be going straight to this thread when doing any work on me maruti good stuff fellas[/img]
Heres the tonneau on my maruti.mrcurlywhirly wrote:I wanted to Ute'erise the back at some point, except I cant see how to get a good tonneau seal with those two tubular struts coming down behind the cabin - any ideas?
It slides on along the back of the fiberglass cabin in a rail type mounting.
Bar to keep the tonneau up. Similar to the one in this thread http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/ftopic139257.php
98 WT LWB Maruti, 1.6efi, rockhoppers, 2" body lift, 2" springs, 32" BFG muddies, jimny Power Steer, front lockrite :-)
Hey Zooker and Jaffa, Many thanks for taking the time out to provide that info, its invaluable. Looks like i want a hybrid of the two setups for my tonneau. Zooker style seal at the back of the cabin and Jaffa style pockets around the struts . I'm also keen on one of those bows to hold the centre up, dont want the water to pool in there.
Zooker - Where did you get and how did you attach that front rail to seal the tonneau to the back of the cabin?
When i first looked at this I was thinking i may have to fabricate an aluminium or checkerplate toolbox (with a fully sealed top) to fit into that section between the cabin and the two struts, looks like that wont be necessary.
My ideal would be an extra cab extention - like the Indonesian Suzuki carribian (sic) extra cabs. One of those extensions on the back of the maruti cabin would make for a versatile (and weatherproof) all round 4x4.. and shrink the tonnaeu , I have never seen those available here though.
Cheers
Zooker - Where did you get and how did you attach that front rail to seal the tonneau to the back of the cabin?
When i first looked at this I was thinking i may have to fabricate an aluminium or checkerplate toolbox (with a fully sealed top) to fit into that section between the cabin and the two struts, looks like that wont be necessary.
My ideal would be an extra cab extention - like the Indonesian Suzuki carribian (sic) extra cabs. One of those extensions on the back of the maruti cabin would make for a versatile (and weatherproof) all round 4x4.. and shrink the tonnaeu
, I have never seen those available here though.Cheers
Sorry the tonneau was on there when i bought the car so im not sure where they got it from. Possibly try anyone that makes tonneau's or another place to try would be caravan places, because it's the same type of rail that i've seen on caravans to attach awnings onto the side
98 WT LWB Maruti, 1.6efi, rockhoppers, 2" body lift, 2" springs, 32" BFG muddies, jimny Power Steer, front lockrite :-)
Sad isnt it - Maruti, the forgotten Suzuki. Would be nice to have a definitive Maruti manual, it doesnt exist though and the more i read the more i realise the little Indian is a bitsa.
Makes it a little difficult to work on them at times, like..do i order a part from a 1.3 or an F10a?? ...whatever, one thing i like about them is the simplicity - no electric fuel pump, no power steering, no power brakes, ac, fuel injection...the only bit of modern tech in mine is the sensor inside the distributor where i expected to see a set of ancient points.
Cheers,
Makes it a little difficult to work on them at times, like..do i order a part from a 1.3 or an F10a?? ...whatever, one thing i like about them is the simplicity - no electric fuel pump, no power steering, no power brakes, ac, fuel injection...the only bit of modern tech in mine is the sensor inside the distributor where i expected to see a set of ancient points.
Cheers,
funny you should mention that, since i have had my maruti, i have fitted electric fuel pump, boosted brakes, fuel injection and am organising power steer now.mrcurlywhirly wrote:whatever, one thing i like about them is the simplicity - no electric fuel pump, no power steering, no power brakes, ac, fuel injection...the only bit of modern tech in mine is the sensor inside the distributor where i expected to see a set of ancient points.
Cheers,
WANTED: swb vitara rear seat. the 3 seater bench type
for sale: wt diffs, snake hi steer, maruti 4.1 wt centres,
for sale: wt diffs, snake hi steer, maruti 4.1 wt centres,
Similar here, done the efi and power steer and Im now looking at boosting the brakes.mr green wrote:funny you should mention that, since i have had my maruti, i have fitted electric fuel pump, boosted brakes, fuel injection and am organising power steer now.
Any chance you could explain what was needed to add boosted brakes into your maruti, and do you have any pics?
cheers
98 WT LWB Maruti, 1.6efi, rockhoppers, 2" body lift, 2" springs, 32" BFG muddies, jimny Power Steer, front lockrite :-)
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