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Ideas for a shackle reversal (bolt on)

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Post by Gwagensteve »

Oh sorry...we were over SR now it was all about flex shots :finger: :finger:
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Post by bigmick »

ill have to post poser shot of mine then. :lol: it is sr. can get more picks if any one is interested.

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Post by oldcrusty72 »

I've had a home made shakle reversal on mine for about 2 1/2 years now, on the highway i think it's very good and keeps things alot more stable. I'm not comp rock crawling but have never had any issues with it off road either. It's not as good for approach angles as a spring over, but due to the fact i can run bigger tyres (31")is better than stock (i'm still running stock springs). I'm really happy with it and have no plans to take it off. although i am going to look at a RUF sometime. Sorry i got no pics right now and won't be back home for another month.

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Post by ofr57 »

bigmick wrote:ill have to post poser shot of mine then. :lol: it is sr. can get more picks if any one is interested.

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yeah more pics of the SR would be good
also what size are those rims :?
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Post by Dee »

going back to the SR without the death fangs & bad castor angles for a second, is there any reason you cant cut & turn the knuckels/spring pads to fix steering/pinion angles?

also with the zuk gwagen posteed above with the "nt spring spacing" what is the benefit/purpose of changing your wt spacing back to nt? is it just to gain chassis/ride height by relocating the spring mounts under the chassis?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

It has no effect on ride height. We do it to
A) Gain tyre clearance so the tyres don't catch the springs any more at lock
B) Lower the roll stiffness in the front
C)It makes the chassis extension much neater
D)adds articulation (but not travel - the same amount of twist in the spring equals more movement at the wheel.

Yes, knuckles could be cut and turned to fix the caster, but If fangs weren't fitted on the front, the arc the axle would move in on compression would be very heavily rearward so firewall clearance would become a major issue, the effective spring rate would be odd as it would be firm on compression on obstacles but very soft at speed (and dive remarkably under brakes)

Tie rod clearance might become a problem too.

There are some other complications too but one way or another, the only I can see around the fangs woudl be with SPOA and frenching the shackle mount into the chassis at the rear, which has its own set of problems.

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Post by Dee »

thanks! :D
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Full RUF, NT spring spacing, 2" bumpstop extensions, OME N76, 2" BL, full height 35's.

This was quite steep and there is more in it- it's not the best photo.


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and obviously some guard work?

any more pics/info on this rig?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Absolutely heaps :D

The front end has been narrowed 110mm to match the width and taper of the bonnet, the inner guards were moved up about 30mm and the arch is now much larger than than the old body moulding line. The firewall was pulled back 65mm at the wheelarch. the ARB bar has been narrowed the same amount and cut back at the corners.

the rear has been tubbed, filler relocated, and floor raised in the rear to clear the shocks, exhaust and fuel tank.

The work is all steel and there is very little filler in the car at all. The bodywork was absolutely the hardest part of the project and seemed like it would never end. The end result is so subtle though it takes ages to work out all the stuff that isn't stock.
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Post by Dee »

:shock:

wow ok way too much work.. :lol:
I could deal with widening the arches, simple virtual lift & relocating fill etc..
but narrowing, lifting floors, pulling firewalls... = eek!
but subtle all right. that would be a buildup i'd like to read! :cool:

are they still suzuki diffs turning the 35's?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Yes, stock 5.12 zook with Airlockers currently. It's Jimny powered with an auto so it si fairly easy on its CV's but I busted one when I was being silly.

It's one of the cars we are building the 100mm overwidth vitara rear/full float and 100mm overwidth/doubletough front axles for.

See... we can't do anything the easy way :roll:

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Post by grimbo »

I think there needs to be a members thread about that buildup Steve. Didn't realise that much stuff to the bodywork had been done.
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