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yes they r shit.

suzuki boy wrote:Bit of spare time hey?

Ditto on this comment.

Steve - if you have this much time to be spending nerd boxing I'd better go out and buy another suzuki.

GRPABT1 wrote: other ways to fit 33" tyres but rule out SPOA and it's associated issues (QLD, steering castor etc) and cutting the shit out of gaurds (personal preference don't flame me) and you're not left with much.
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not a personal dig at you whatsoever here grapabt1, but i cant seem to understand why so many people are against doing a decent guard lift, yet are only too happy to take to the entire back half of their zuk with a 9", a welder & a pipe bender...

I bought it with the ute chop already done

And I don't have the tools to do a gaurd chop, nor do I have the time for things like SPOA and RUF.

GRPABT1 wrote: Ok hear me out before flaming the shit outta me.

Have you ever owned/driven a vehicle with a Calmini 5 inch kit including the (apparently) 3" springs?

Because despite what you wrote and what I cop from every other experienced zook person, my calmini kit still flexes better than stock. Admittedly not by huge amounts but at least a few inches more wheel travel. My zook had stock hight springs/ stock shackles and longer shocks before the calmini kit.

I know that there are better flexing kits on the market and other ways to fit 33" tyres but rule out SPOA and it's associated issues (QLD, steering castor etc) and cutting the shit out of gaurds (personal preference don't flame me) and you're not left with much.

I think the theory on 3" springs being stiffer etc is absolutley true but I think some kits take alot of criticism when it's not all due.

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Im with you on this one I have seen it on a few of them I have been involved with. At first the new springs are "tight" like all replacement spring are. After a short while the"bed in"(for lack of a right word) and work much better.

You will find that Calmini 3" springs are a longer spring not just a stock length spring that has been bent to get the extra height unlike the 2" ARB ones. If you are getting lifted springs make sure you are getting a spring that is longer (which the 3" Calmini is) not just a stock length re-profiled.

And that's where some of the extra travel will come from. I still don't think they're that great though - I don't see the advantage of a shackle reversal (and I built one years ago) and the quality of the calmini stuff I have seen is a bit variable. (Haven't they ever heard of metric?)

GRPABT1 - the calmini kit sounds like it is perfect for you - lots of US gear is aimed at the bolt on market and that's fine. It's a lot safer than a lot of SPOA's I have seen.

As an aiside, Calmini's claim of 25" of articulation (which isn't all that bad, or all that great) doesn't explain how it's measured. Articulation will be a product of track width (travel is not) and most of those calmini cars are WT's running 8" or 10" rims. GRPABT1's claim of a "bit better than stock" articulation would sound acout right to me. I don't think it will do anything ground breaking, but it IS a bolt on solution and that is important for those that can't deal with fabrication.

Steve.

Now that's the first sensible description I have ever heard of Calmini gear. Thankyou.