Outer Limits 4x4 Board

tuff4runner wrote:are the dome swags just as quick to set up? and are burk and wills any good?

i find the dome swags quick to setup if not quicker than a burke and wills....

tent is way cheaper if on a budget. can get adecent tent and sleeping gear for half the price of a decent Swag.


in summer i string the hamock between bullbar and tree and string a tarp above it and just sleeping bag in it . Sux when ya leave handbrake off and try to get in .

You will NOT get a better swag than this one for Victorian conditions ---
http://www.jimallenandson.com/swags.html


Designed, used and made by a deer hunter for the mountains.
Ive had one for about 25 years and its taken a REAL flogging -- its almost dead now. The story`s that swag could tell





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TheGatta wrote:You will NOT get a better swag than this one for Victorian conditions ---
http://www.jimallenandson.com/swags.html


Designed, used and made by a deer hunter for the mountains.
Ive had one for about 25 years and its taken a REAL flogging -- its almost dead now. The story`s that swag could tell

they near all terrain4x4?

Most of the top manufacturers are of the same quality, theres like at least 5 of em, it just purely down to which one appeals to youre needs, ie the envelope ones, single and double dome, etc... and whatevers on special at the time i spose.

i use a tent.
small tent for short overnight trips but a large one for longer trips.
i got nowhere to put a dirty swag after its been rolled on the dirt.
and the tent packs up much smaller

both.

i have a $150 swag from ananconda sale. used it a few times. works wonders.

but will use a tent when needed.

Nic

If it is accessible with trailer then we take the camper
Otherwise a tent.

If it is just me then I sleep in my 4wd but have my eye on a swag. Problem is spending $300 for the odd trip. I'd probably get one of these.
http://www.saulswags.com.au/index.htm

Barnsey wrote:

built4thrashing wrote:tent is way cheaper if on a budget. can get adecent tent and sleeping gear for half the price of a decent Swag.

True.

Here's about $250 worth of camping gear.

go the bigW tent
i got the same one... before the zipper broke at willowglen

bogged wrote:

TheGatta wrote:You will NOT get a better swag than this one for Victorian conditions ---
http://www.jimallenandson.com/swags.html


Designed, used and made by a deer hunter for the mountains.
Ive had one for about 25 years and its taken a REAL flogging -- its almost dead now. The story`s that swag could tell

they near all terrain4x4?

Not sure ? --- Give them a ring .

I was talking to the owner many years ago about the different swags on the market. He was saying that "any" canvas is not waterproof - long term. He said eventually ( years down the track ) they will leak. He said, some manufacturers use thick canvas on the top, but all that does is sweat and cause condinsation to form "inside" the swag - wets your sleeping bag. On the Allens swag, they have a removable poly tarp ( cover ) that you tie on ( 30 seconds work ) when it is needed in wet conditions. It works a treat.
Over the years hunting in the High Country, some of the boys have gone off hunting leaving their swags ( different makes ) lying on the ground out in the open. When they have come back at the end of the day a puddle has formed in the middle of the swag and soaked through to their sleeping bag which made for a VERY uncomfortable night. I have never had that happen by useing the poly cover.

Just 3 weeks ago I went for a hunt up in the High Country and we slept in the snow ( yes --- 3 weeks ago ) I used the poly cover and didnt have a problem -- as snug as a bug in a rug, but some of the boys did cause they left their swags out, open to the elements.

I swear by the Allens swags. I reckon if you live in Victoria ( and head up into High Country ) and you need a new swag and you dont get one of these, your a dill.



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We have a 2 man tent, 4 Man tent, 8 Man tent & I have just got a Hootchie & I am getting a light weight hammock mainly for bushwalking.

It all depends on where you are going what you are doing & for how long.

Can anyone tell me the size of there touring tent when packed away. The wife just go me one from boots for a present & it only folds down to 900mm square. I don't remember my uncles being so large packed away.

go the bigW tent
i got the same one... before the zipper broke at willowglen

Atleast your dome tent made it through the weekend.... I had a few sleepless nights after we busted a pole setting it up in the HIGH winds..... everytime I heard a gust of wind coming we'd wait for the tent to collapse on to us. Was quite funny cause the first arvo I was really stressin out worrying that it would collapse... by the last day, I really couldn't give a fark.... and was laughing at it when it was basically on the ground then would spring back up when the wind eased up again.

After busting nearly all the guy rope tags off the tent and burning a hole into it with the gas lantern, not to mention about the 10kg of dust in it..... it got left with the pile of rubbish at the end of the weekend!!!

So I'll be off to buy a more sturdier tent and a double swag in the not too distant future.

Barnsey wrote: Then again, our climate doesn't require much protection from the elements. Just a tarp for shade.

Thats why I got a Hootchie

http://www.armysurplus.com.au/index.php ... t=HOOCHIES

I got one one ebay for $31 plus postage

Tent. I've got a Speedy tent for quick trips away and a Freedom Tourer for longer trips. Both are really good.

used it for three nights in coffs, pretty cold nights (for a queenslander) , after 1st night i used a heavy picnic blanket under me to block the cold and it was sweet.
Perfect for qld summer on the beach.
Not for everyone, works for me

As with anything it comes down to what you pay, wise man buys once a poor man buys twice

I use a tent but will be getting a swag, my tent cost retail around 1k if you can still find em i didnt pay anywhere near that It works for me, i will be getting a swag but i find my tent takes up no room realy so i can also pack it with me and it weights like 3kg tops with everything.